DoomsdayDevice wrote...
I understand it, guys, it's okay.
I don't expect anybody to believe me. And I know many people are frustrated with the whole thing.
I've posted some examples now, but it's really the whole experience of it. There are several instances in the game where people are having discussions in the background about whether someone is dead or not or may still be alive in enemy territory. There's just so much stuff that starts ringing bells with me. It's subtle though.
It's totally possible that I've gone way down the rabbit hole, but I'm getting the feeling that's exactly what Bioware wanted to achieve here.
The way I'm experiencing the game now, if you have IT in mind, it all seems like hilarious foreshadowing, and if it turns out to be true, it will be obvious in retrospect that Bioware planned it all, and didn't just go along with a fan theory.
But hey, that's what I think. "Your belief is not required." =)
You shouldn't limit yourself and you're not, you're posting your thoughts, and that's perfect. We should all have the liberty - and as far as I know we do - to express our ideas, or to tell others of our disappointments and enjoyments of the game (or the trilogy, or franchise as a whole including all media forms). I have read your original post and I understand why you would believe in what you're believing.
In the end, personally, I think that you're holding onto that simply due to how incoherent and too reliant on speculation in general the story of the game is on its own without that sort of "
yet to be delivered by BioWare " story-telling, coherence and finale(s) that so many of us expected. And many still can't admit that quite simply the game was rushed, and that ultimately there was no and will never be any intentions from BioWare's writers to "hide" truths about the Reapers or Shepard, that there is no conspiracy, and that they would only give us "real information" (I.E. DLCs) later on including possibly one or more "true" endings (as to support the Indoctrination Theories out there) which would then finally "explain it all".
We come up with self-satisfying theories of our own, or we take ones that fits our mindset and from time to time tweak them a bit to better fit them within our own parameters of current desperation for better sense of closure and better clarity of mind on, basically,
what the heck ever happened in ME3 as a whole.
But, I just want to add this, concerning one of your original points in your first post, and I quote:
11. There are not as many Reapers as we think there are. They concentrated the bulk of their forces in the most heavily populated areas of the galaxy and are patrolling the less populated regions to keep up the illusion of a large presence. If we knew they were not with as many as we thought, we could do some serious damage. I do think this means the path to a more conventional victory is open. Forget about the crucible.
The Milky Way galaxy is that, a
galaxy, it's immense beyond comprehension. If they have enough Reapers to even just "patrol less populated regions" then I hope that you can understand how many they still need to do "just" that. Even if we came out with very conservative and generous small numbers of known exit and entry points of Mass Relays within the network and pretended that it is all that the Reapers have access to (and it's not), then they'd still need tens of thousands of Reapers just to cover the less populated regions, for that purpose
alone.
Additionally, it doesn't fit with what Javik mentions, and we did know of the Protheans' fate during the invasion in their cycle, even according to Vigil alone in ME1. The Reapers were not just present in the forms of the ships themselves, but their agents and harvested husks of the concerned victimized species as well (not just Protheans, but all species within the Prothean empire, since that's what it was, when we say "Prothean" we speak of all species within that empire including the original Prothean themselves).
During their cycle each and every single one of the Prothean empire's planetary systems had been isolated and a Reapers War on their own was fought until they were wiped out by attrition or by mere harvest. The Prothean empire spanned the entire galaxy as far as we know, or at least the entire Mass Relay network (or... at worst, all the Relays they did have access to at the empire's apex, which according to Liara's research especially in ME1 was pretty much the whole galaxy).
Lore-wise, I do believe that Reapers' numbers is virtually impossible to determine not because we "just don't know", but because they're just that many of them.
If conventional warfare could lead to victory, then that conventional victory would have been reached in a previous cycle already (which is pretty much my entire point here). And the need to construct the Crucible would have never been implied, nor would it have never been initiated by a previous advanced civilization in one of the past numerous cycles (way before the Protheans' own cycle).
In other words, the Crucible was started long before the Protheans' cycle, exactly because conventional warfare was never a solution to win against Reapers. And if - again - conventional war could have lead a species to victory then the Protheans would have been able to, according to what we know of them (they were quite literally all over the galaxy, imagine what amount of resources they disposed of to wage a conventional war even by their own standards). That was understood at some point by an unknown race (or maybe the Leviathans let that leak out on purpose and played innocent all along) and it was expected by each new cycles that the Crucible could one day be finished in time, in the future, by another cycle's advanced species.
But, I also know that even if I do mention all of this, that if you have your mindset holding onto your current theories then this and nothing else either will change your mind. That's ok, I too just wanted to share my views on what you think.
What's important is that in the end whatever you believe in happens to be satisfying for yourself, even if it's not canon or not intended by BioWare.
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