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Javelin is too OP and needs to be nerfed.


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landylan wrote...

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 It's crazy. It one shots everything with phasic rounds III, and you can see through walls. It's not even fair to the enemies if they can't see you through the wall. It takes no skill at all to snipe things from a safe position across the map. You never even half to play with a cyclonic mod with this thing. The enemy will never see you. Just so OP.

I'm able to take out an atlas in three shots. Ridiculous. I'm almost sure I could do it in two now with the damage bonus from Incendiary ammo.

Also explosive ammo sucks on snipers. If the damage limit was removed, it might be decent. The only guns that would actually get 250 damage explosions are big ones like snipers, and they get no benefit from it.

EDIT: Did anyone notice that I said "HALF to play"?


I remember you being a reasonable poster here on BSN. Why go retard all of a sudden, with threads like this and "the ppr sucks"? You keep this up, and no one will take you seriously anymore. I know I already don't.
Or maybe youre just trolling. If so, then good job on that.

I was serious about the PPR, but I got used to it after a match. It melts bosses, and it'll get you a twenty headshot medal quick. I still hate the gun though. Most boring thing ever.

No one takes me seriously anyways.

Javelin's ridiculous.


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Yep.

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That's the point. It's an Ultra-Rare weapon. So nerf a weapon that's supposed to be powerful?

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Your signature says it all.

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It finally became good after the Phasic rounds and the buff and you want to nerf it? It's Ultra-Rare. And hitting moving enemies takes massive amounts of skill.

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If you're having a bad day, try Oreo's and milk.


how about sourcraut and vodka?


Is it after 5?

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Air Quotes wrote...

It finally became good after the Phasic rounds and the buff and you want to nerf it? It's Ultra-Rare. And hitting moving enemies takes massive amounts of skill.


I totally agree with you that hitting moving enemies takes a LOT of skill. It's the kind of weapon that requires a high amount of accuracy for payoff. I pretty much suck at it :lol:. I have to practice with the Javelin on Silver even though I play Gold/Plat regularly. 

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*Hides Javelin IV under bed*

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I really should practice with mine, game gave me 3 levels on it this week.

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landylan wrote...

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So the PPR sucks and Javelin is OP?


This. 

Anyway OP what difficulty are you talking about that you can 3 shot an Atlas? Gold? or below. 

A gold atlas(triple penetrating shot bug). That's what you call OP. 


Exactly what kit did you use? I am assuming you are using a Javelin X and you are exploiting a bug? So you want a gun nerfed because you exploited a bug I just want to make sure I got all my facts straight here

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mrs_anomaly wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

It finally became good after the Phasic rounds and the buff and you want to nerf it? It's Ultra-Rare. And hitting moving enemies takes massive amounts of skill.


I totally agree with you that hitting moving enemies takes a LOT of skill. It's the kind of weapon that requires a high amount of accuracy for payoff. I pretty much suck at it :lol:. I have to practice with the Javelin on Silver even though I play Gold/Plat regularly. 

I play on consoles, and I don't keep the crosshairs on moving targets. I swipe it across their bodies and time the shot. I can only imagine how OP this gun is on PC.

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Deathsaurer wrote...

I really should practice with mine, game gave me 3 levels on it this week.

I wish I had your luck. The has only ever wanted to spam me with harriers and pistols. Now they're gone, and this drought will never end.

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landylan wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

It finally became good after the Phasic rounds and the buff and you want to nerf it? It's Ultra-Rare. And hitting moving enemies takes massive amounts of skill.


I totally agree with you that hitting moving enemies takes a LOT of skill. It's the kind of weapon that requires a high amount of accuracy for payoff. I pretty much suck at it :lol:. I have to practice with the Javelin on Silver even though I play Gold/Plat regularly. 

I play on consoles, and I don't keep the crosshairs on moving targets. I swipe it across their bodies and time the shot. I can only imagine how OP this gun is on PC.


Harder actually due to how sensitive a mouse is. Unless you have very steady hands a little twitch means the shot goes wide.

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try troll harder

Modifié par 100RenegadePoints, 27 novembre 2012 - 01:01 .


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landylan wrote...

I wish I had your luck. The has only ever wanted to spam me with harriers and pistols. Now they're gone, and this drought will never end.


If it makes you feel better I really, REALLY suck with it

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Ok so try it on a non infiltrator and get back with me.

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Amazin the amount of people this troll post have believing this ****! if the op was really this daft he/she wouldnt be able to switch on their pc/phone

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Clearly the only solution is to give all Cerberus units, including the Turret, 1 meter of cover penetration.

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RaptorSolutions wrote...

landylan wrote...

mrs_anomaly wrote...

Air Quotes wrote...

It finally became good after the Phasic rounds and the buff and you want to nerf it? It's Ultra-Rare. And hitting moving enemies takes massive amounts of skill.


I totally agree with you that hitting moving enemies takes a LOT of skill. It's the kind of weapon that requires a high amount of accuracy for payoff. I pretty much suck at it :lol:. I have to practice with the Javelin on Silver even though I play Gold/Plat regularly. 

I play on consoles, and I don't keep the crosshairs on moving targets. I swipe it across their bodies and time the shot. I can only imagine how OP this gun is on PC.


Harder actually due to how sensitive a mouse is. Unless you have very steady hands a little twitch means the shot goes wide.

That's exactly how I feel on console, so I do the swiping motion to shoot. The lack of sensitivity can make the game a pain at other times. If there's a sensitivity level, I'm on the highest level, but the only time you want low sensitivity is when you're sniping. It's painfully slow sometimes.

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landylan wrote...

Relix28 wrote...

landylan wrote...

 It's crazy. It one shots everything with phasic rounds III, and you can see through walls. It's not even fair to the enemies if they can't see you through the wall. It takes no skill at all to snipe things from a safe position across the map. You never even half to play with a cyclonic mod with this thing. The enemy will never see you. Just so OP.

I'm able to take out an atlas in three shots. Ridiculous. I'm almost sure I could do it in two now with the damage bonus from Incendiary ammo.

Also explosive ammo sucks on snipers. If the damage limit was removed, it might be decent. The only guns that would actually get 250 damage explosions are big ones like snipers, and they get no benefit from it.

EDIT: Did anyone notice that I said "HALF to play"?


I remember you being a reasonable poster here on BSN. Why go retard all of a sudden, with threads like this and "the ppr sucks"? You keep this up, and no one will take you seriously anymore. I know I already don't.
Or maybe youre just trolling. If so, then good job on that.

I was serious about the PPR, but I got used to it after a match. It melts bosses, and it'll get you a twenty headshot medal quick. I still hate the gun though. Most boring thing ever.

No one takes me seriously anyways.

Javelin's ridiculous.


I agree with you the Javelin is ridiculous. I've played a lot of shooters in my time but never seen one that required me to hold down the fire button before it decided to shoot.

Anyway! I thank you for this thread to be honest. I dont snipe often. However lately I've been using it because I am fresh out of shotgun amps. So trying to use these sniper amps I got laying around. I've only been using Drill rounds. Now I know better :devil:

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Shut your mouth.

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sandboxgod wrote...

I agree with you the Javelin is ridiculous. I've played a lot of shooters in my time but never seen one that required me to hold down the fire button before it decided to shoot.


Did you ever play the original Half-Life?

The ghostbusters beam gun had a slight delay before it would fire.

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Javelin was good before the last buff, and really if you had a high level it was good a long time ago if you could reload cancel, especially against Reapers.

Phasic rounds make it even easier to use... or do Drill rounds do that?

I am not surprised there is little to no support for the OP's premise.

Modifié par capn233, 27 novembre 2012 - 01:11 .


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sandboxgod wrote...


I agree with you the Javelin is ridiculous. I've played a lot of shooters in my time but never seen one that required me to hold down the fire button before it decided to shoot.

Anyway! I thank you for this thread to be honest. I dont snipe often. However lately I've been using it because I am fresh out of shotgun amps. So trying to use these sniper amps I got laying around. I've only been using Drill rounds. Now I know better :devil:



The firing delay actually helps you once you get used to it. It prevents me from taking bad shots a lot. 

If  you're on gold, the phasic rounds III might be better than the drill. I wasn't able to body shot a gold hunter to death with just phasic rounds II one time... Headshots seemed to do the trick though...

Anyways, I don't need that much penetration. I might go searching on certain maps to see if I can find some nice thick walls to take advantage of drill rounds though.

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Cyonan wrote...

sandboxgod wrote...

I agree with you the Javelin is ridiculous. I've played a lot of shooters in my time but never seen one that required me to hold down the fire button before it decided to shoot.


Did you ever play the original Half-Life?

The ghostbusters beam gun had a slight delay before it would fire.


Nah I mostly stuck to the realistic shooters like Battlefield series, Call of Duty, Counterstrike, and so forth. It baffles me why designers would think in the future a sniper rifle would need to be held down to 'power up' 1st. I guess they were trying to keep it balanced. It's ok, I've learned to get around it when I was working on my Javelin weapon challenge :innocent:

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landylan wrote...

...to snipe things from a safe position across the map.


That's the purpose of being a sniper. Besides, the gun has a beast of a reload.