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[xTh3xBusinessx]

landylan wrote...

 It's crazy. It one shots everything with phasic rounds III, and you can see through walls. It's not even fair to the enemies if they can't see you through the wall. It takes no skill at all to snipe things from a safe position across the map. You never even half to play with a cyclonic mod with this thing. The enemy will never see you. Just so OP.

I'm able to take out an atlas in three shots. Ridiculous. I'm almost sure I could do it in two now with the damage bonus from Incendiary ammo.

Also explosive ammo sucks on snipers. If the damage limit was removed, it might be decent. The only guns that would actually get 250 damage explosions are big ones like snipers, and they get no benefit from it.

EDIT: Did anyone notice that I said "HALF to play"?

Every time I read one of the OP's posts, I swear he sounds crazy. Always with the random "nerf this or that". Jav nerf? Really? And they just made snipers better since they needed the boost. No...just no.

[Clayless]

2/10

[Zhuinden]

landylan wrote...

 It's crazy. It one shots everything with phasic rounds III, and you can see through walls. It's not even fair to the enemies if they can't see you through the wall. It takes no skill at all to snipe things from a safe position across the map. You never even half to play with a cyclonic mod with this thing. The enemy will never see you. Just so OP.

I'm able to take out an atlas in three shots. Ridiculous. I'm almost sure I could do it in two now with the damage bonus from Incendiary ammo.

Also explosive ammo sucks on snipers. If the damage limit was removed, it might be decent. The only guns that would actually get 250 damage explosions are big ones like snipers, and they get no benefit from it.

EDIT: Did anyone notice that I said "HALF to play"?

OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS

[sandboxgod]

capn233 wrote...

sandboxgod wrote...

But I was naive. Never thought to try Phasic rounds. Just did a search and found lots of great info. So glad I clicked on this thread now lol

If you go SR Piercing V, High Velocity Barrel V you get 3.7m of cover penetration on the Javelin, and can run Warp or Phasic Ammo (depending on enemy type...).

Ah! I wasn't stacking penetration mods. I was running HVB V + Spare Thermal Clip V 

[landylan]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Not my friends. We own n00bs and play games with 1 PUG so we can call him a scrub when he only scores 20k.

If I'm with friends, I only play with PUGs if there isn't anyone else to play with... I might have to try what you guys do though. Good for the e peen.

[landylan]

sandboxgod wrote...

capn233 wrote...

sandboxgod wrote...

But I was naive. Never thought to try Phasic rounds. Just did a search and found lots of great info. So glad I clicked on this thread now lol

If you go SR Piercing V, High Velocity Barrel V you get 3.7m of cover penetration on the Javelin, and can run Warp or Phasic Ammo (depending on enemy type...).

Ah! I wasn't stacking penetration mods. I was running HVB V + Spare Thermal Clip V 

I've been using spare clips because Air Quotes said the extra AP mod was bugged... Spare clips is just as helpful, and the Javelin's built in piercing is enough for most walls and corners.

[capn233]

landylan wrote...

I've been using spare clips because Air Quotes said the extra AP mod was bugged... Spare clips is just as helpful, and the Javelin's built in piercing is enough for most walls and corners.

It seemed like it would shoot further to me.  I have an X, so it has enough spare shots.

They fixed the bug where it would do reduced damage with that mod.

Modifié par capn233, 27 novembre 2012 - 01:55 .

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

What you miss OP, is that not everyone can take the Jav and own with it. Obviously, this isn't your case since you fare decently with it, but most can't.

Anyway. Dunno if trolling or whatever...

landylan wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Not my friends. We own n00bs and play games with 1 PUG so we can call him a scrub when he only scores 20k.

If I'm with friends, I only play with PUGs if there isn't anyone else to play with... I might have to try what you guys do though. Good for the e peen.

Did you just take him seriously?

Modifié par Jay_Hoxtatron, 27 novembre 2012 - 01:55 .

[landylan]

capn233 wrote...

landylan wrote...

I've been using spare clips because Air Quotes said the extra AP mod was bugged... Spare clips is just as helpful, and the Javelin's built in piercing is enough for most walls and corners.

It seemed like it would shoot further to me.  I have an X, so it has enough spare shots.

They fixed the bug where it would do reduced damage with that mod.

That's just what Air Quotes told me recently even after it was supposedly patched. Personally, I've not noticed, but I was never aware that the bug existed prior.

I'm starting to like the spare clips better. I used to go to the ammo box every round, but now I don't have to go to the ammo box. If I use over twenty shots, I know I'm in a bad PUG.

[landylan]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

What you miss OP, is that not everyone can take the Jav and own with it. Obviously, this isn't your case since you fare decently with it, but most can't.

Anyway. Dunno if trolling or whatever...

landylan wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Not my friends. We own n00bs and play games with 1 PUG so we can call him a scrub when he only scores 20k.

If I'm with friends, I only play with PUGs if there isn't anyone else to play with... I might have to try what you guys do though. Good for the e peen.

Did you just take him seriously?

I was acting. Will Smith is my cousin.

[MajorStupidity]

Zhuinden wrote...

OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS

You're doing it wrong...

[landylan]

MajorStupidity wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS

You're doing it wrong...

[smilie]http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/129273/2576136-obvious_troll_wedding.jpg[/smilie]

Which one am I?

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

landylan wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

What you miss OP, is that not everyone can take the Jav and own with it. Obviously, this isn't your case since you fare decently with it, but most can't.

Anyway. Dunno if trolling or whatever...

landylan wrote...

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Not my friends. We own n00bs and play games with 1 PUG so we can call him a scrub when he only scores 20k.

If I'm with friends, I only play with PUGs if there isn't anyone else to play with... I might have to try what you guys do though. Good for the e peen.

Did you just take him seriously?

I was acting. Will Smith is my cousin.

Nice trollin' then 

[capn233]

landylan wrote...

That's just what Air Quotes told me recently even after it was supposedly patched. Personally, I've not noticed, but I was never aware that the bug existed prior.

I'm starting to like the spare clips better. I used to go to the ammo box every round, but now I don't have to go to the ammo box. If I use over twenty shots, I know I'm in a bad PUG.

Interesting.

I think I ran both the other day and didn't notice a drop in damage.

2.35m is still pretty good if you take HVB and spare clips though, and I will do that depending on the generosity of ammo on certain maps.

[MajorStupidity]

landylan wrote...

MajorStupidity wrote...

Zhuinden wrote...

OBVIOUS TROLL IS OBVIOUS

You're doing it wrong...

[smilie]http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/12/129273/2576136-obvious_troll_wedding.jpg[/smilie]

Which one am I?

I am implying that you are not serious with this idea. If you are well then you shall be Destroyed as a tribute to the coming empire

[landylan]

capn233 wrote...
Interesting.

I think I ran both the other day and didn't notice a drop in damage.

2.35m is still pretty good if you take HVB and spare clips though, and I will do that depending on the generosity of ammo on certain maps.

It's not a big deal on Gold, but if you play with a bunch of Harrier bums on Plat, you'll hate not having the spare clips. 

If anyone finds a way to use the drill rounds more effectively, I'd love to hear. There's just not much that needs that much penetration.

[Shadohz]

Landylan congratulations on unlocking the Xbox 360 "<Bleepin> Idiot" achievement.

Nice troll. Well played son.

[capn233]

landylan wrote...

It's not a big deal on Gold, but if you play with a bunch of Harrier bums on Plat, you'll hate not having the spare clips. 

If anyone finds a way to use the drill rounds more effectively, I'd love to hear. There's just not much that needs that much penetration.

Then don't play with Harrier bums, or beg someone to be a Demolisher

Goddess is an ok map for taking advantage of high penetration values.  You can take some interesting shots through floor upstairs to hit some enemies on the ground level.  Since these are oblique shots, you need more penetration distance.

Phasic or Warp are probably more practical though.

[SeanThen1]

OP, Take first on gold with it (and extract). Post a screen shot. I'd love to see it.

[landylan]

capn233 wrote...

landylan wrote...

It's not a big deal on Gold, but if you play with a bunch of Harrier bums on Plat, you'll hate not having the spare clips. 

If anyone finds a way to use the drill rounds more effectively, I'd love to hear. There's just not much that needs that much penetration.

Then don't play with Harrier bums, or beg someone to be a Demolisher

Goddess is an ok map for taking advantage of high penetration values.  You can take some interesting shots through floor upstairs to hit some enemies on the ground level.  Since these are oblique shots, you need more penetration distance.

Phasic or Warp are probably more practical though.

Phasic is definitely the most useful, but I prefer AP over warp for the extra penetration. 10% damage isn't that big of deal for the GI Jav.

.... Imagine how much damage the warp round javelin does to a biotic primed target though(I'd do the math myself, but I'm not completely sure how and when everything is added to the damage) ... Reaver with an acolyte for shield stripping would have crazy good synergy with a javelin user with warp rounds.

[landylan]

SeanThen1 wrote...

OP, Take first on gold with it (and extract). Post a screen shot. I'd love to see it.

I can't do that, but I'll play a game with you on Xbox 360 if you're up for it.

[frustratemyself]

'Wow I did really well in a game with x gun/character/etc'

[Skullheart]

nerfers should be nerfed

[SeanThen1]

landylan wrote...

SeanThen1 wrote...

OP, Take first on gold with it (and extract). Post a screen shot. I'd love to see it.

I can't do that, but I'll play a game with you on Xbox 360 if you're up for it.

Master Race here, sorry.

[Kinom001]

landylan wrote...

Kinom001 wrote...

landylan wrote...

...to snipe things from a safe position across the map.

That's the purpose of being a sniper. Besides, the gun has a beast of a reload.

Reload cancel.... It makes a huge difference. It's like a completely different gun.

Ah, but not everyone is able to reload cancel all that well. Add in the guns weight and it becomes a hindrance. It's the balance between it's power and it's drawbacks.If they dropped the weight and reload time then, yes, it'd need a nerf. As it is I don't see the need.