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[WhiteKnyght]

KwangtungTiger wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

KwangtungTiger wrote...

ImperatorMortis wrote...

KwangtungTiger wrote...

It seems like your just trying to get arise out of people. Shame on you.

Because some of the people who still whine about the endings aren't trying to do the same? Shame on you. 

Shame on me for what?

It was a joke. Mostly because I didn't think anyone besides Great Grandmothers said "shame on you" anymore. 

I feel older than I am sometimes no doubt. But at 36 im no old man.

Nah you're just middle aged. lol

[chemiclord]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Tali's pretty, and nobody at Bioware ever said the Quarians were going to be some xenophile's fantasy. They have the asari for that.

Plus throughout the trilogy, you can see the face model is distinctly humanoid(even if it is just one generic face used for all of them.)

I don't think the biggest issue was the face itself (although I'm sure there were a few that lost their **** over it being "humanoid" in appearance), more that it was obviously a five-minute photoshop job thrown in at the last minute because someone said, "Ya know... there's gonna be a riot if we don't show her face."

Modifié par chemiclord, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:20 .

[davidshooter]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Dot.Shadow wrote...

Last I checked Bioware claimed to want feedback from their customers.

There's critique and there's abuse. I've yet to see any critique.

From the guy who just posted he doesn't ses a problem with the Tali "stock photo" photoshop job.

Yeah, you're opinion is the norm, nothing odd about you...............nothing at all..............

Tali's pretty, and nobody at Bioware ever said the Quarians were going to be some xenophile's fantasy. They have the asari for that.

Plus throughout the trilogy, you can see the face model is distinctly humanoid(even if it is just one generic face used for all of them.)

Tali's face badly photoshoped from a generic internet photo while an IGN reporter with the worst voice acting skills in modern gaming gets a full facial scan with an unnecessary character....yeah, you're the unbiased voice of reason.

Modifié par davidshooter, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:22 .

[Rynocerous]

Ah, illogical trolling at it's finest. There's not even a coherent sentence in that entire original post, only the very strong smell of hypocritical, look-down-your-nose, fanboyism.

The reason BW has been under attack, O Vastly Intelligent One, is that their recent efforts have not equaled earlier ones. I have neither the time, patience, or frankly, interest in educating you, but there are whole threads of statements made by the dev's that they've flat out lied about.

There are things we were told would not occur that occurred. There are compromises made, sloppy writing, sloppy art, sloppy attention to detail.

But I get it. You're one of these people who just enjoys the game and doesn't hold the company to a high standard, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's your money. You do not get to tell others, however, how to feel, or react, or imply that anyone who dislike's the direction Bioware is going in is an immature troll.

As so often on the BSN, I'd slap you, but I don't have a pair of gloves I can burn afterwards, so I'll just say this:

Your timid acceptance of mediocrity makes you a sheep, not a reasonable observer. If you dislike the tone of the BSN, STOP READING.

[chemiclord]

davidshooter wrote...

Tali's face badly photoshoped from a generic internet photo while an IGN reporter with the worst voice acting skills in modern gaming gets a full facial scan with an unnecessary character....yeah, you're the unbiased voice of reason.

And here is where we diverge.

There was roughly a 0% chance the resources put into Allers would have gone into Tali's rendering.  It's a non-starter.  Full stop.

[WhiteKnyght]

davidshooter wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Dot.Shadow wrote...

Last I checked Bioware claimed to want feedback from their customers.

There's critique and there's abuse. I've yet to see any critique.

From the guy who just posted he doesn't ses a problem with the Tali "stock photo" photoshop job.

Yeah, you're opinion is the norm, nothing odd about you...............nothing at all..............

Tali's pretty, and nobody at Bioware ever said the Quarians were going to be some xenophile's fantasy. They have the asari for that.

Plus throughout the trilogy, you can see the face model is distinctly humanoid(even if it is just one generic face used for all of them.)

Tali's face badly photoshoped from a generic internet photo while an IGN reporter with the worst voice acting skills in modern gaming gets a full facial scan with an unnecessary character....yeah, you're the unbiased voice of reason.

Subjective. I saw nothing wrong with Jessica Chobot's voice. As a reporter, she's paid to talk. And in the game she plays a character with the same career as her.

Also if you guys knew anything about graphics editing(I do,) you'd know that it takes longer than five minutes otherwise there would be a lot of noticable mistakes in the editing. Tali's picture edit was seamless.

[davidshooter]

chemiclord wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

Tali's face badly photoshoped from a generic internet photo while an IGN reporter with the worst voice acting skills in modern gaming gets a full facial scan with an unnecessary character....yeah, you're the unbiased voice of reason.

And here is where we diverge.

There was roughly a 0% chance the resources put into Allers would have gone into Tali's rendering.  It's a non-starter.  Full stop.

Nope, don't agree.

It's the best example of wasted resources in the game.

[WhiteKnyght]

Rynocerous wrote...

Ah, illogical trolling at it's finest. There's not even a coherent sentence in that entire original post, only the very strong smell of hypocritical, look-down-your-nose, fanboyism.

The reason BW has been under attack, O Vastly Intelligent One, is that their recent efforts have not equaled earlier ones. I have neither the time, patience, or frankly, interest in educating you, but there are whole threads of statements made by the dev's that they've flat out lied about.

There are things we were told would not occur that occurred. There are compromises made, sloppy writing, sloppy art, sloppy attention to detail.

But I get it. You're one of these people who just enjoys the game and doesn't hold the company to a high standard, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's your money. You do not get to tell others, however, how to feel, or react, or imply that anyone who dislike's the direction Bioware is going in is an immature troll.

As so often on the BSN, I'd slap you, but I don't have a pair of gloves I can burn afterwards, so I'll just say this:

Your timid acceptance of mediocrity makes you a sheep, not a reasonable observer. If you dislike the tone of the BSN, STOP READING.

I'm simply making a point. What does Bioware have to gain making ME4 after the response everything they've been putting out gets? People are already bashing Omega from nitpicking the trailer, even though they've been demanding it for months.

I'm stating fact, you need only look around the forums to see it. Making ME4 would be a waste of time and money because it's already failed in the eyes of fans before it has even started. If this were "fanboyism" I'd be encouraging them to make it despite hater backlash, would I not?

The BSN is supposed to be a place for peaceful discussion, and once was. It was hateful dissatisfied players who changed that. But they're acting like they want to stay and keep punishing Bioware for having the gall to end the trilogy in a way that was different than they expected.

Modifié par The Grey Nayr, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:34 .

[Mathias]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.

[davidshooter]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

davidshooter wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Dot.Shadow wrote...

Last I checked Bioware claimed to want feedback from their customers.

There's critique and there's abuse. I've yet to see any critique.

From the guy who just posted he doesn't ses a problem with the Tali "stock photo" photoshop job.

Yeah, you're opinion is the norm, nothing odd about you...............nothing at all..............

Tali's pretty, and nobody at Bioware ever said the Quarians were going to be some xenophile's fantasy. They have the asari for that.

Plus throughout the trilogy, you can see the face model is distinctly humanoid(even if it is just one generic face used for all of them.)

Tali's face badly photoshoped from a generic internet photo while an IGN reporter with the worst voice acting skills in modern gaming gets a full facial scan with an unnecessary character....yeah, you're the unbiased voice of reason.

Subjective. I saw nothing wrong with Jessica Chobot's voice. As a reporter, she's paid to talk. And in the game she plays a character with the same career as her.

Also if you guys knew anything about graphics editing(I do,) you'd know that it takes longer than five minutes otherwise there would be a lot of noticable mistakes in the editing. Tali's picture edit was seamless.

LOL!!!

yeah, great voice acting from Chobot!! Are you for real????

I've seen 2 much better versions of the same picture photoshoped and posted to this site alone, done by fans.  Seriously, give it up pal.

If you think the photoshop job of Tali's face was seamless, and Chobot's voice acting was fine, it says more about you than I could ever hope to drag out into the sunlight with this exchange.

Modifié par davidshooter, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:47 .

[Binary_Helix 1]

I'd be happy if we never got another ME game. Let ME die with what little dignity it has left. They already jumped the shark.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:41 .

[N7 Assass1n]

They brought it on themselves. I'll admit some of the hate is unwarranted and goes too far, but majority of it is because of them. They even deliberately came out and said (In a quote Pre-Release) that they were trying to attract a "Wider Audience". This essentially abandoned the cornerstones of the franchise that made so many people (Such as myself) diehard fans.

[N7 Assass1n]

Rynocerous wrote...

Ah, illogical trolling at it's finest. There's not even a coherent sentence in that entire original post, only the very strong smell of hypocritical, look-down-your-nose, fanboyism.

The reason BW has been under attack, O Vastly Intelligent One, is that their recent efforts have not equaled earlier ones. I have neither the time, patience, or frankly, interest in educating you, but there are whole threads of statements made by the dev's that they've flat out lied about.

There are things we were told would not occur that occurred. There are compromises made, sloppy writing, sloppy art, sloppy attention to detail.

But I get it. You're one of these people who just enjoys the game and doesn't hold the company to a high standard, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's your money. You do not get to tell others, however, how to feel, or react, or imply that anyone who dislike's the direction Bioware is going in is an immature troll.

As so often on the BSN, I'd slap you, but I don't have a pair of gloves I can burn afterwards, so I'll just say this:

Your timid acceptance of mediocrity makes you a sheep, not a reasonable observer. If you dislike the tone of the BSN, STOP READING.

THIS SO MUCH.

[spirosz]

Oh the irony.

[WhiteKnyght]

N7 Assass1n wrote...

They brought it on themselves. I'll admit some of the hate is unwarranted and goes too far, but majority of it is because of them. They even deliberately came out and said (In a quote Pre-Release) that they were trying to attract a "Wider Audience". This essentially abandoned the cornerstones of the franchise that made so many people (Such as myself) diehard fans.

"Blame the victim" Typical in a pattern of abuse. The abuser blames his victim's behavior for his/her behavior.

"Why do you keep doing this, Bioware. You keep making me hate on you!!!!!" lol

I might also sense a bit of console elitism because a good part of that "wider audience" are PS3 players, like myself(I bought ME2 last year, loved the series since.)

[N7 Assass1n]

No, the wider audience is fans from other series that are tailored to enjoy aspects of their game genre's. Example? ME's combat movement. A near carbon copy of Gears of War. The dialogue system? Cut down considerably since the first two games to attract "Action" type players who like combat, explosions and action cut scenes.

[BSpud]

I feel as though I should care whether there's going to be an ME4 or not (or that apparently a trailer for the Omega DLC has been already released), but... nothing. However, I'm bookmarking this thread just in case I do eventually end up with some kind of emotion or thought pertaining to Bioware products in the future.

[WhiteKnyght]

N7 Assass1n wrote...

No, the wider audience is fans from other series that are tailored to enjoy aspects of their game genre's. Example? ME's combat movement. A near carbon copy of Gears of War. The dialogue system? Cut down considerably since the first two games to attract "Action" type players who like combat, explosions and action cut scenes.

Well to be fair, having three different ways to say yes or no, or make a universal comment is a bit much.

Also cutscene wise, the Reaper war was supposed to have a lot of action. Considering all the buildup the previous games gave to just how powerful they are.

[WhiteKnyght]

magnetite wrote...

George Lucas did something similar with Star Wars. Due to the fan outrage regarding his films, and they way that they treated him, he basically said "no more Star Wars".

I wouldn't want Mass Effect to share the same fate. Some people really need to get over this. I mean, they need a big reality check. They're getting upset over a video game.

Could also have something to do with entitlement or the fact that they are "owed" certain things from the developers. These guys don't owe anyone anything. If this is the way they wanted to end the trilogy, so be it. Deal with it. There are more important things in life to worry about than how your favorite video game series ended.

Best. post. ever. Someone finally gets it.

[ImperatorMortis]

magnetite wrote...
There are more important things in life to worry about than how your favorite video game series ended. 

This.. 

[davidshooter]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

magnetite wrote...

George Lucas did something similar with Star Wars. Due to the fan outrage regarding his films, and they way that they treated him, he basically said "no more Star Wars".

I wouldn't want Mass Effect to share the same fate. Some people really need to get over this. I mean, they need a big reality check. They're getting upset over a video game.

Could also have something to do with entitlement or the fact that they are "owed" certain things from the developers. These guys don't owe anyone anything. If this is the way they wanted to end the trilogy, so be it. Deal with it. There are more important things in life to worry about than how your favorite video game series ended.

Best. post. ever. Someone finally gets it.

So I would be correct in thinking you think the Star Wars prequals are quality films?  Because that would make complete sense at this point.

[Binary_Helix 1]

magnetite wrote...

George Lucas did something similar with Star Wars. Due to the fan outrage regarding his films, and they way that they treated him, he basically said "no more Star Wars".

Too bad he didn't stop making all films because Kingdom of Crystal Skull has irreparably harmed the Indiana Jones saga.

Modifié par Binary_Helix 1, 27 novembre 2012 - 03:03 .

[KwangtungTiger]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

magnetite wrote...

George Lucas did something similar with Star Wars. Due to the fan outrage regarding his films, and they way that they treated him, he basically said "no more Star Wars".

I wouldn't want Mass Effect to share the same fate. Some people really need to get over this. I mean, they need a big reality check. They're getting upset over a video game.

Could also have something to do with entitlement or the fact that they are "owed" certain things from the developers. These guys don't owe anyone anything. If this is the way they wanted to end the trilogy, so be it. Deal with it. There are more important things in life to worry about than how your favorite video game series ended.

Best. post. ever. Someone finally gets it.

While I'll agree to some degree with what your saying it needs to be added that this is part of the industries fault also. Not sure how old you are magnetite but I've owned an atari when it came out and almost every console since.  In the last 6 or so year alot of the industries have asked for feedback and/or ideas for upcoming titles. To me this has opened a whole new can of worms for critiques and criticisms from fans not getting what they asked for. The problem here is you can satisfy everyone.