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[bobbydarko]

daecath wrote...

Maybe they shouldn't? Gee, ya think? That's a bit like saying "Maybe I shouldn't hit my head with this sledgehammer."

They have admitted they don't have a single clue what ME4 will be about. None. They don't even know if it's going to be a sequel or prequel. Which means they aren't making the game because they feel they have a good story to tell. But, if it's not about telling a good story, then what possible motivation could they have for making it?

Oh, that's right. $.

The exact same motivation that caused them to release ME3 before it was done. The same motivation that caused them to remove all the side quests, all the dialog options, all the conversation branches, all the RP elements, and any semblance of a coherent ending in order to shove in a multiplayer element no one wanted and release it in the same amount of time as ME2, but with twice the work that ME2 had.

As for why we're still here, well, personally I'm trying to get John Riccitiello and the rest of his cronies at EA fired and replaced with someone who actually knows something about making games, instead of making snacks and soda pop (which is what his work history is), and who actually cares about making good games instead of just making money.

you know, this might blow your mind, but i assure you their intention with ME1 was to make money, not to tell a story. The latter generally leads to the former, but make no mistake, money is always the motivation. Always. 

They don't know what the story will be for ME4 yet? First off, you don't know that. Sure Casey's tweeting about it but I doubt he and the writers are feverishly updating his twitter account and taking notes. Secondly, it's quite early on. Plenty of time for the creative process.

You can say the game was rushed I guess. That's fair. Can't say no one wanted multiplayer though.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

All these weirdos **** about the endings constantly, nitpick & tear apart every tiny detail of the games, say they will no longer support Bioware & will never spend money on another Bioware product.

Yet for some strange reason they're still here posting. Makes no sense, when people don't like something they usually avoid it. I despise Metallica, you'll never catch me on the Metallica forums discussing their albums, I ignore & avoid anything related to Metallica. All these freaks on here that hate Mass Effect should do the same. Just STFU & go away!  You're not buying Omega tomorrow? Guess what! I don't really care, I am & you can go to hell!

Modifié par Steelgrave, 27 novembre 2012 - 06:45 .

[daecath]

Steelgrave wrote...

All these weirdos **** about the endings constantly, nitpick & tear apart every tiny detail of the games, say they will no longer support Bioware & will never spend money on another Bioware product.

Yet for some strange reason they're still here posting. Makes no sense, when people don't like something they usually avoid it. I despise Metallica, you'll never catch me on the Metallica forums discussing their albums, I ignore & avoid anything related to Metallica. All these freaks on here that hate Mass Effect should do the same. Just STFU & go away!  You're not buying Omega tomorrow? Guess what! I don't really care, I am & you can go to hell!

We don't hate Mass Effect. We love it (at least, most of it). Personally, I don't even hate BioWare. They've made most of my favorite games, and the elements that were good in ME3 show me that the things I loved about those games are still there.

I hate EA. Read 4 posts back from yours for why, but basically they got greedy, rushed the game out before it was done, and forced BioWare to do too much work in too little time, which required them to cut corners. I know we're not getting a new ending, or a game with the elements we were hoping for. What I want now is to see EA's management fired. I want John Riccitiello - who's work experience other than at EA is at a soda company and a snack food company - to be fired, take his cronies with him, and be replaced with someone who actually has experience in and a passion for gaming. Someone who cares about making good games as much as they do, if not more, about making money. Someone who would be willing to take their life savings and sink it into a new an unproven company just because they had an idea for a game that they wanted to make. You know, like the guys that started BioWare did. I want BioWare to return to their roots, to that kind of leadership, where we got games like KOTOR and ME and great games like that, instead of mediocre (or worse) games like DA2 and ME3.

So, sorry if you don't like it, but tough. I'm not leaving, and I'm not shutting up.

[KingZayd]

Steelgrave wrote...

All these weirdos **** about the endings constantly, nitpick & tear apart every tiny detail of the games, say they will no longer support Bioware & will never spend money on another Bioware product.

Yet for some strange reason they're still here posting. Makes no sense, when people don't like something they usually avoid it. I despise Metallica, you'll never catch me on the Metallica forums discussing their albums, I ignore & avoid anything related to Metallica. All these freaks on here that hate Mass Effect should do the same. Just STFU & go away!  You're not buying Omega tomorrow? Guess what! I don't really care, I am & you can go to hell!

There's a difference. I don't really know much about music, but I think it's more like: loving Metallica's old stuff, and yet intensely hating some of the tracks in their last album, that erm.. ruin their theme or something? The analogy's reaching it's limits. I don't think music cares about plot holes.

Modifié par KingZayd, 27 novembre 2012 - 07:06 .

[InvincibleHero]

All wrong why let the haters win. BW should make the best ME4 they are capable of and let the chips fall where they may. I don't want a fearful compromised vision, but the confident BW of old that made great games before they had a huge fanbase that came with unwarrented demands.

[Rodia Driftwood]

I get your intentions, Op, but you're wrong on this. Mass Effect is not a favor from BioWare to us. They are under a contract to design and sell a product to US, the costumers. Whatever personal attacks the devs might have received by some angry neckbeard is not our problem.

[CaptainCommander]

Lol "You guys don't deserve it."
You make it sound like EA and Bioware are doing us a favour if they make another game. But without the fans who had been there since ME 1 there wouldn't be an ME 2 & 3. And its the fans from 1 that pre-ordered ME3 and that went to midnight launches not new fans. These are the same people who tell others to play ME. So its not a case of deserve as Bioware doesn't have that dedicated fan base anymore. Its if the gamers who are central to the ME universe will buy another game after the shamble that is the ending!

[CR121691]

There is hope. More then you know.

[CR121691]

Binary_Helix 1 wrote...

I'd be happy if we never got another ME game. Let ME die with what little dignity it has left. They already jumped the shark.

Well why don't you start stop buying anything ME related and just leave the forums if you are so happy for ME to die.

[KevTheGamer]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.

keep your coal they would probably complain about that too. I love the series and have no real desire to pick it apart its not that serious to me its just a game and its a lot of fun. I loved Levithan all of the Multiplayer DLC the extended cut and pretty much everything Bioware has released outside of the original mass effect ending and a few plot holes that I would love to see fixed but not enough to come on here and constantly **** about them. I am ready for Omega! 

[HALO_Project]

Here is my two- cents: all I want is a game that is what it is advertised to be and that is finished. Bug free is a pipe dream but RELATIVELY bug free is achievable. I'm tired of game companies using me to beta test their stuff after I've paid for a finished product. I felt that that is exactly what DA2 was. Especially on the PS3 . The potential was there but...

And my beef with Bioware over ME3 is that 1) it wasn't consistent with the first two, it is more and more like a shooter with narrower and narrower RPG elements as the series progressed and as a long time fan I felt as if I were being let down in favor of the money to be made off of the new comers and 2) they said and advertised things that simply were not true. However they did release the extended cut and did so in a very satisfactory manner. Those who were not satisfied with the endings could add this free content and those who liked the game as it was could just opt to not download it. Everybody wins a little. Compromise is good.

And threads like this are just picking a fight.

[mrbthq]

lol, your right I don't deserve ME4, still not sure what I did to deserve ME3.

[SaleemRa]

The OP is right with this, it seems that Bioware just cant seem to catch a break. Since the launch, whenever an article about ME3 comes out you are bound to see a comment about how bad the ending was and various threats to EA's rectum. What I dont get is if these guys dont like it, why are they constantly commenting. Who are these guys trying to convince.

I personally liked the endings even before the EC, were they stellar? No. Where they satisfactory? Yes. Were there things about the game that irked me? A couple. Were they so bad that I have to keep bringing them up ad nauseum? No.

Jessica Chobots V/O was horrible, you guys know what I did? I didnt let her on the Normandy or in the games that I did I never talked to her. Also her skirt was kind of silly what with that big black stripe down the middle.

Tali's face was ok despite being a simple photoshop. Why do I say this? Well simply because you only see it for a couple of seconds anyway. Seriously no graphic designer is going to painstakingly craft something that gets a couple seconds of face time. If you expect otherwise then your fooling your self or have no idea how things work in real life. Reality and expectations never really match up in real life, get over it already.

Other examples, was TOR that bad? No it wasnt. Sure it was WOW with KOTOR dialogue tacked on but so what its still fun.

For all the **** that bioware has pulled they have planted more then enough rose bushes to make up for it. ME3 is still loads of fun, if you cant replay it because of the endings then thats all on you - no one else. Not being able to enjoy it as a whole despite the poorly executed parts reflects your own immaturity.

You know what is several degrees worse but I dont hear anyone complaining about? Halo4. Way too short in single player and the whole spartan ops thing is a rip off. In case you dont play Halo let me describe it, you buy your game for 60 then realize that you can only play half of it because the other half (spartan ops) requires a paid subscription to unlock. Yes I know its a multiplayer component but here is the kicker - Halo4 already supports 2 player local multiplayer but you cant play the spartan ops part that way. Spartan Ops is literally part of the game, it isnt DLC but it certainly isnt free since I would need to spend extra just to access something that I already own and was already advertised as being on disc. Wheres the rage and indignation here?

I would love for there to be an ME4 but they really should tone down the advertising for it though. No amount of hype can live up to consumer expectations.

TL:DR If you really hate ME/Bioware that much as a result of its recent offerings, stop playing their games and get off this forum.

[fchopin]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

So we paid money to Bioware and we don't deserve another game, are you trying to shut down Bioware or something?

[ld1449]

Hold on OP. Give me a minute to search for a **** to give.

[Texhnolyze101]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.

You act as if i should care or am somehow inconvenienced if Bioware decides not to make another ME whats up with that?

[ld1449]

101ezylonhxeT wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.

You act as if i should care or am somehow inconvenienced if Bioware decides not to make another ME whats up with that?

Its pro-ender logic. Don't try to make sense of it just go with the flow

[fchopin]

ld1449 wrote...

Its pro-ender logic. Don't try to make sense of it just go with the flow

You paid money so no more games to stop you from paying us money.

[AshenShug4r]

Lol, it's not about deserve. If Mass Effect was free, you might have some semblance of a point.

When you pay for a product you hold the right to criticize said product, and if what you got was not what was advertised, people are inevitably going to complain.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Maybe Obsidian should make ME4

It'd be buggy as all hell and probably rushed again, but at least the writing quality would improve.

[ld1449]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Maybe Obsidian should make ME4

It'd be buggy as all hell and probably rushed again, but at least the writing quality would improve.

Urgh...lets not go that far. Obsidian's writing is little above a neckbeards DnD campaign really.

[Sable Rhapsody]

ld1449 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Maybe Obsidian should make ME4

It'd be buggy as all hell and probably rushed again, but at least the writing quality would improve.

Urgh...lets not go that far. Obsidian's writing is little above a neckbeards DnD campaign really.

Still better than parts of ME3   And to each their own, but considering the team that formed Obsidian wrote Planescape: Torment, I'm inclined to put a few extra points in their camp.

[Berg]

While I agree with some of your sentiments OP - some of the vitriol, especially against individual people, is horrible to behold - you went too far in the other direction.

[Diurdi]

Deserve has nothing to do with creating value for shareholders. If another Mass Effect is profitable enough, they will make it.