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fchopin wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.



So we paid money to Bioware and we don't deserve another game, are you trying to shut down Bioware or something?


Not at all. Mass Effect was meant to be a trilogy, and people hated that Trilogy's end and are using it to hate on everything Bioware puts out.

Simple answer, put ME to bed and make a new Sci-Fi epic.

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Yes you are right, I just deserve to watch them go the way of bullfrog

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Not creating ME4 won't be a magic solution to make idiots stop hating Bioware for no reason. I can\\t see your point. You're basically trying to fight haters with hate, pretty pointless.
There''s no reason why Bioware wouldn't do another ME, seeing that despite whines and butthurts here ME sells well, same about it's DLC.

I don't want another sci-fi epic. I like the universe, I saved it at the cost of whole race, let me see a sequel plz.

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LilLino wrote...

make idiots stop hating Bioware for no reason

let me see a sequel plz. 





Firstly as a so-called 'hater' or ''Idiot'' as you would like to call me, i offer a view from the gallery.  

I dont hate Bioware per-se.  

1.  Mass Effect 3 is a massive massive let down once you get past thessia.
2.  I like DA2 (not love...... like as in dont think it's that bad really)
3.  Narrative Coherence.  To me and many more people, Mass Effect 3 could and should have been so much better.  I know we all have our theories as to why so much content was ripped out of the game prior to release, but suffice to say in my opinion it did not hold together and was rushed out the door.
4.  ME2 is in my opinion the high point as far as Bioware is concerned. The replay value of ME2 is massive in comparison to ME3.  
5.  I want a Mass Effect 4.  A Sequel.  The overall feeling - the bad taste that the ME3 ending left with me needs exorcising.  This universe is huge.  There are so many unanswered questions.  There are so many possibilities.  
6.  If ME3 had been a great game then there wouldn't need to be so many videos on youtube or whatever taking the mick and stating the obvious flaws.  It isn't a great game by a long shot.  Some things are great but some things are almost unforgivable for such a brilliant game series.  
7.  As a yorkshireman, if something aint great....I will say so.  Thats not hate.  Thats constructive criticism.  
8.  Pleasurewand of doom.  The Crudible.  It's a Battery.  So we wasted all those resources making a battery?  No wonder we lost.  

Modifié par dorktainian, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:42 .


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I want ME 4 and they gonna do ME 4!...so "YEAH" me :)

Modifié par maaaze, 27 novembre 2012 - 03:33 .


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Anti-Bad guys Pro-Good guys
"It's so much easier to see the world in black and white. But grey? I don't know what to do with grey..." Garrus Vakarian.....

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.


I finally read this thread. And not that you want me laughing at you, but... thank you for the laughs! Image IPBImage IPB

Modifié par Kel Riever, 27 novembre 2012 - 04:53 .


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Heh, I'm not apologist no hater, I generally like BioWare products even though I second guess them a lot these days.

That said, BioWare deserve a LOT of the flake they are getting, not because of the ME3 ending or because ME isn't the RPG series that was "supposed to be" but because since ME2 they have been diluting their products to the extreme, all in favor of the mythical "wider audience" to the point that DA2 was an obviously rushed mediocre game and ME3 is pretty much a corridor shooter with dialogue trees.

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Someone else made a comment about Omega that their view (from a writer's perspective) was that the story was mediocre and suggested the BW writers leave ME behind to reinvigorate their writing. I respect the logic behind that.

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We complain because we care, not for the sake of it.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.



They got only what they deserve... only what they proved is as much they have a good writers they have also bad ones, and they shoulnd´t leave in future this bad ones alone in office to cook their own ending.

Jefiner Helper is bad...Dragon Age2 was bad... Deception, Mass Effect 3/mediocre/, Leviathan, Extendet Cut, Paragon lost are bad... and it´s not just mindless hate - each of people which I spoke about these products had almost same issues as much understandable reasoning why they didn´t like it...

Not me, I am not spending another cent till I will see something worth of my time, and as much you hate my presence on BSN. I bought game as much as you did and I have the same right to be here as you have. So you will either respect different opinion or you can continue in your anti-enders crusade.

I am saying that yes - BioWare, screw it and let it be, you already destroyed once great story so I don´t want to see another failure which will destroy this IP even more.

And yes as said guy from above - We are complaing because we care...

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 27 novembre 2012 - 04:51 .


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These topics continue to give me a good laugh. So the new Blueprotoss is The Grey Nayr? I am just kidding!

But seriously, people are always going to have different opinions about this game.  It will always depend on what you were looking for in the game.

Modifié par Cashmoney007, 27 novembre 2012 - 05:02 .


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OP has some mental problems.

I don't remember people whining about KOTOR, BG, previous ME games etc...

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Well said, OP.

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i agree with this OP.
tough i have to admit that i was a little if not quite pissed of the original endings,
but after the EC everething isnt as bad (destroy FTW),

DA2 was god enough for me since story is my intrest in bioware games not combat and scenery
so i dint mind the repetetive maps and as for combat...... i cheated muhahaha

i only pray that the new mass effect is a sequel

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

I've yet to see any critique.


And here is where I knew you weren't being serious.

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... Wait, did you even play DA2? Because there were some complaint worthy issues with that game. Such as, "Trying to stay neutral? Whoops, there goes the chantry!" and "We're trying to prove we don't all use blood magic? Let me just use blood magic! And by the way, I helped kill your mom!". Plus the maps were overused. Does that mean I don't like the game? No, I loved it and I've played through it several times. but if people don't voice their opinions, negative or otherwise, the company won't know what to improve in the next game. So what you're saying is, in a way, detrimental to Bioware.
Nice job, OP.

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I can't believe this thread is still going. It was founded on a pile of logical diarrhea. Why do you care so much about other people's opinion on Bioware releases? Sure, I don't agree with stuff that people say on here but that doesn't make the other person a crybaby, nor do they deserve coal. The newer games *are* really different from the older games. Is that a bad thing? Well. it depends on how much you enjoyed the old games and your ability to accept change. Personally, I judge games based purely upon the quality of that game, not on the quality of it's predecessors. Even then, ME3 and DA2 have issues. ME3 has the auto-dialogue, too much focus on the Citadel and a wonky journal system. DA2 has annoying combat, repetitive quests and C&P dungeons. They are good games, but they have issues and are hardly above criticism. That's my take at least.

Modifié par The Mad Hanar, 27 novembre 2012 - 06:37 .


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You're right,  people shouldn't complain when they buy crap.  I don't see why BW wouldn't release Mass Effect 4 though, people still buy it anyway no matter how mediocre it may be.

Me, I just come back occasionally for the snacks.  :P  And the hope that maybe the next DLC will turn things around.  That doesn't seem to be the case this time though.

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The Grey Nayr wrote...

fchopin wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.



So we paid money to Bioware and we don't deserve another game, are you trying to shut down Bioware or something?


Not at all. Mass Effect was meant to be a trilogy, and people hated that Trilogy's end and are using it to hate on everything Bioware puts out.

Simple answer, put ME to bed and make a new Sci-Fi epic.


This I can certainly agree with though.  Mass Effect is a wounded horse that needs to bite the bullet now.  Or at least get it's third leg repaired.  

I don't know if I'd buy any new Sci-Fi game though, I'd have to wait for reviews.  Fool me once, shame on me and all that jazz.

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Seriously, there are many of us wondering if we should purchase another game from Bioware PERIOD. Let alone the idea of buying another Mass Effect game.

Bioware is on probation right now, if they truly wanted to withhold ME4 from us because they felt the community was undeserving or wouldn't fully appreciate it..........I doubt very seriously if many would complain. It's too soon anyway. They should let some of the controversy die down, and try slowly earning their community's trust again. That's of course if they even care.

It's all up to Bioware right now.

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If Bioware really thinks the endings were that great, then no, they shouldn't make a ME4

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Rynocerous wrote...

Ah, illogical trolling at it's finest. There's not even a coherent sentence in that entire original post, only the very strong smell of hypocritical, look-down-your-nose, fanboyism.

The reason BW has been under attack, O Vastly Intelligent One, is that their recent efforts have not equaled earlier ones. I have neither the time, patience, or frankly, interest in educating you, but there are whole threads of statements made by the dev's that they've flat out lied about.

There are things we were told would not occur that occurred. There are compromises made, sloppy writing, sloppy art, sloppy attention to detail.

But I get it. You're one of these people who just enjoys the game and doesn't hold the company to a high standard, and there's nothing wrong with that. It's your money. You do not get to tell others, however, how to feel, or react, or imply that anyone who dislike's the direction Bioware is going in is an immature troll.

As so often on the BSN, I'd slap you, but I don't have a pair of gloves I can burn afterwards, so I'll just say this:

Your timid acceptance of mediocrity makes you a sheep, not a reasonable observer. If you dislike the tone of the BSN, STOP READING.



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Steelgrave wrote...

All these weirdos **** about the endings constantly, nitpick & tear apart every tiny detail of the games, say they will no longer support Bioware & will never spend money on another Bioware product.

Yet for some strange reason they're still here posting. Makes no sense, when people don't like something they usually avoid it. I despise Metallica, you'll never catch me on the Metallica forums discussing their albums, I ignore & avoid anything related to Metallica. All these freaks on here that hate Mass Effect should do the same. Just STFU & go away!  You're not buying Omega tomorrow? Guess what! I don't really care, I am & you can go to hell!


+1 for the good guys