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[HooblaDGN]

They absolutely should not do a Mass Effect 4. Mass Effect was a great and wide universe, but its story was about Shepard and co. and ending the Reaper threat.

I hated the ending and am still angry about much of the last game, but regardless of that moving to something else is better from a creative standpoint.

Much better to move on to a new IP and tell a story there. The ME trilogy should not be milked. Leave it as it is, flawed and beautiful and perhaps defeated in the end by the likes of Star Child and Kai Leng, but nonetheless a focused story that delivered much awesomeness.

[Darth Malice113]

Dookie.

[themaltaproject]

HooblaDGN wrote...

They absolutely should not do a Mass Effect 4. Mass Effect was a great and wide universe, but its story was about Shepard and co. and ending the Reaper threat.

I hated the ending and am still angry about much of the last game, but regardless of that moving to something else is better from a creative standpoint.

Much better to move on to a new IP and tell a story there. The ME trilogy should not be milked. Leave it as it is, flawed and beautiful and perhaps defeated in the end by the likes of Star Child and Kai Leng, but nonetheless a focused story that delivered much awesomeness.

Yet, we have an example of this working in some way. Assassins Creed is proof a bigger story can be told through other means than a direct one.

[HooblaDGN]

themaltaproject wrote...

HooblaDGN wrote...

They absolutely should not do a Mass Effect 4. Mass Effect was a great and wide universe, but its story was about Shepard and co. and ending the Reaper threat.

I hated the ending and am still angry about much of the last game, but regardless of that moving to something else is better from a creative standpoint.

Much better to move on to a new IP and tell a story there. The ME trilogy should not be milked. Leave it as it is, flawed and beautiful and perhaps defeated in the end by the likes of Star Child and Kai Leng, but nonetheless a focused story that delivered much awesomeness.

Yet, we have an example of this working in some way. Assassins Creed is proof a bigger story can be told through other means than a direct one.

I think the last few AC games have been complete crud, myself. Peaked at AC2 imo, and now they're just milking as far as I'm concerned. But I have relatively limited time to game, so maybe if I had more time the other mediocre entries would be more worthwhile.

[Bourne Endeavor]

themaltaproject wrote...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.

+1. Though, Bioware will make the game if people will buy it. You have to forget this secluded section of the internet and remember that 4million+ people bought the game initially. Even if they returned it, bioware still got the sales because of the way retailers work. Thats roughly 200million dollars.

Over half of those people that bought the game loved it anyways because more than half never finished it (casual gamers) Plus the whole--my friend got the game so now I feel pressured to get it so I don't miss the story-- deal. Plenty of money motive to make the game.

1.)Make game
2.)Tune out of haters/compensate as best you can
3.)??????
4.)Profit.

Square Enix thought like this. It's worked out really well for them. 

Don't know if that was sarcasm or not, but Square Enix is one of the most successful game companies alive right now. They even publish their own products so they aren't pressured by EA or otherwise. Not to mention, their flagship games are fun,addiciting, extremely long, and have a unique story about them. The internet is the sole resource for gathering opinions. The internet is infact often biased because the more people read one side of the arguement the more swayed they are.

Just sayin

Evidently, you have been living under a rock for a few years. They have progressively fragmented their fanbase since FFXI. FFXIII saw a rapidly decline in interest, to such an extent they revamped its sequel despite having the original stance of "we have a story to tell our way." Meanwhile, FFXIV was such a colossal failure the company is boarding close to bankruptcy should another major title flop, primarily because they are oversturated with mediocrity and new IPs that do not see the light of day.

The Final Fantasy series has been on a downward slope for a while now.

[themaltaproject]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

themaltaproject wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.

+1. Though, Bioware will make the game if people will buy it. You have to forget this secluded section of the internet and remember that 4million+ people bought the game initially. Even if they returned it, bioware still got the sales because of the way retailers work. Thats roughly 200million dollars.

Over half of those people that bought the game loved it anyways because more than half never finished it (casual gamers) Plus the whole--my friend got the game so now I feel pressured to get it so I don't miss the story-- deal. Plenty of money motive to make the game.

1.)Make game
2.)Tune out of haters/compensate as best you can
3.)??????
4.)Profit.

Square Enix thought like this. It's worked out really well for them. 

Don't know if that was sarcasm or not, but Square Enix is one of the most successful game companies alive right now. They even publish their own products so they aren't pressured by EA or otherwise. Not to mention, their flagship games are fun,addiciting, extremely long, and have a unique story about them. The internet is the sole resource for gathering opinions. The internet is infact often biased because the more people read one side of the arguement the more swayed they are.

Just sayin

Evidently, you have been living under a rock for a few years. They have progressively fragmented their fanbase since FFXI. FFXIII saw a rapidly decline in interest, to such an extent they revamped its sequel despite having the original stance of "we have a story to tell our way." Meanwhile, FFXIV was such a colossal failure the company is boarding close to bankruptcy should another major title flop, primarily because they are oversturated with mediocrity and new IPs that do not see the light of day.

The Final Fantasy series has been on a downward slope for a while now.

I think thats a bit exagerated. FFXIII-2 was made in response to the success of the first one... Their recent money loss is due to their branches producing games like mindjack.

[KiwiQuiche]

I'm amused by the OP.

Yeah how dare we dislike an inferior, shoddy product.

Modifié par KiwiQuiche, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:27 .

[xxskyshadowxx]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies -*Snip*

Pot. Kettle. Black. GG

First of all, folks aren't complaining like they didn't get the right Christmas present. You don't pay for gifts you receive...you pay for products that you buy. In this case, a product that many folks feel was misrepresented multiple times, therby preventing them from making truly informed purchasing decisions. So in many instances, BioWare is experiencing the ire of a responsible consumer...like any other company would had they done the same thing. You reap what you sew.

Second of all....the whining and so on from both sides of the coin, pro-enders and anti-enders has become a bit excessive at times. But honestly, that's because both sides of the coin love the series so much. If the anti-enders didn't love the series....then they wouldn't feel so jilted, and wouldn't feel the need to express their upset; they would have stopped caring and walked away from the game forever. Pro-enders are reacting to the anti-enders for the same reasons. It's a lose-lose situation. Thank you for this BioWare.

Finally, players don't "deserve" a new game. They "buy" it. Thinking consumers don't deserve a product because they were vocal about disliking a previous product is very childish. It's also bad business for a corporation. BioWare is making a ME4, they've already said so...the series is a cash cow, and they're not going to just let that go. The question is, will they "deserve" the consumers' money when they release it. For many, the resounding answer is "Yes!" for almost as many it's "No!" but I think for the largest portion, it will be "Perhaps." I just hope they've learned something about how to properly represent their product before release so that another backlash doesn't occur.

[themaltaproject]

xxskyshadowxx wrote...

The Grey Nayr wrote...

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies -*Snip*

Pot. Kettle. Black. GG

First of all, folks aren't complaining like they didn't get the right Christmas present. You don't pay for gifts you receive...you pay for products that you buy. In this case, a product that many folks feel was misrepresented multiple times, therby preventing them from making truly informed purchasing decisions. So in many instances, BioWare is experiencing the ire of a responsible consumer...like any other company would had they done the same thing. You reap what you sew.

Second of all....the whining and so on from both sides of the coin, pro-enders and anti-enders has become a bit excessive at times. But honestly, that's because both sides of the coin love the series so much. If the anti-enders didn't love the series....then they wouldn't feel so jilted, and wouldn't feel the need to express their upset; they would have stopped caring and walked away from the game forever. Pro-enders are reacting to the anti-enders for the same reasons. It's a lose-lose situation. Thank you for this BioWare.

Finally, players don't "deserve" a new game. They "buy" it. Thinking consumers don't deserve a product because they were vocal about disliking a previous product is very childish. It's also bad business for a corporation. BioWare is making a ME4, they've already said so...the series is a cash cow, and they're not going to just let that go. The question is, will they "deserve" the consumers' money when they release it. For many, the resounding answer is "Yes!" for almost as many it's "No!" but I think for the largest portion, it will be "Perhaps." I just hope they've learned something about how to properly represent their product before release so that another backlash doesn't occur.

First Paragraph: You are held accountable as the consumer to figure out if the product is worth your money before purchase. End of discussion.

Second Paragraph: This is the exact reason why they didn't change anything in the ending or use the stage that was set for the IT. You also cant hold BW accountable based on everyone's reaction. They put out their story as they intended, and everyone ****ed about it(but mostly about each other) like the game stole their house. Not BW's problem.

Third Paragraph: You know what else was childish? Putting up anti-EA billboards, threatening moderators, telling all of your friends not to buy the game or return it and never buy another BW product, when the consensus was the gameplay and majority of the story was awesome, just the end of it made people mad. The amount of outlash towards BW before they even had time to say anything was the most absurd thing I have ever seen on the internet and is why half of the internet laughed at all of you. I estemate, based on the 100+ polls that sprung up in march on this forum about the ending, that there were only around 20000 people expressing their discontent over the ending. 4 million people bought the game. Of those 20,000 people, there were easilly 2,000 different opinions on how it should have happened.

If we take that the OP is asking: do the people on these forums that ****ed and complain about everything BW puts out deserve an ME4? Absolutely. I would say ban them from the forums. However, you can't do that because its shady and frankly the people that do it are funny. They grasp the smallest problems and turn them into the biggest ones.

[majormajormmajor]

themaltaproject wrote...

If we take that the OP is asking: do the people on these forums that ****ed and complain about everything BW puts out deserve an ME4? Absolutely. I would say ban them from the forums.

The solution to dissenting opinions is to ban them. I like how you BSN martinets think.

[hawat333]

Oh, they should absolutely do it. If the same group does it who did the Arrival and Omega (the Montreal branch, if I'm not mistaken), it will turn out to be a highly enjoyable action game.
It won't interest me, per say, but it doesn't mean a lot of people won't buy it.

[shurikenmanta]

Know what I'll find funny? If your 'choices matter' in 4 and the fans start screaming on about how ME's become another Black Ops 2

[log1x_dr4g0n]

The Grey Nayr wrote...

Cause frankly, all the abuse they've suffered the past year has proven now much you guys don't deserve another Mass Effect.

You'd just whine and complain like rotten spoiled babies about every little thing you don't like. Everything you don't understand, everything you don't think is "true to ME's style." and probably the fact that a different team is doing it(Bioware Montreal.)

Ever since Dragon Age II came out, you guys have been systematically attacking everything Bioware has done, exploiting even the smallest of holes like it's some big fat catasrophe.  Mass Effect Decption, Mass Effect 3, From Ashes, Leviathan, Extended Cut, Star Wars The Old Republic, Jennifer Hepler, Retaliation Pack, Paragon Lost. Everything you don't like, you come down on like a freaking army.

Yet for some reason you stay, you keep playing, you keep spending money, and just look like a pack of big fat hypocrites.

Maybe it's time to just grow up. Get over it, move on, do something besides act like a bunch of children who didn't get the right present on Christmas morning(if I were Santa, I'd give you all a lump of coal.)

So yeah, making Mass Effect 4 would be a mistake because it would be unappreciated, like everything else Bioware does is.

*slow clap* 

You make a good point...but only one. 

*gives you a gold star*

You tried. 

[Savber100]

I agree OP.

IT'S FINE TO HATE A SHODDY PRODUCT.but WHAT IS THE POINT OF DWELLING ON IT?

Basically to all haters, hammer these points into your skulls:

1) Bioware has changed. You either like it, accept it, or don't. After that, MOVE the frack on. Bashing everything Bioware does when you ALREADY see it as trash is like eating your own vomit after eating something you think as nasty. It's stupid and irrational.

2) You are not persuading anyone online on your point of view. So why keep saying that Bioware has failed you etc or that the ending is the worst evur since the Holocaust? There is little point except to stroke your little insecure egos in the knowledge that you are somehow more upright and correct than the developers (who are also human beings) or fans that *gasp* actually enjoyed Mass Effect 3.

[Oransel]

There should be no Mass Effect 4. It would be worse than ME3 or Omega and that tells something

[CHALET]

Don't feed the troll.

[MassEffecter132]

Greylycantrope wrote...

You're right I don't deserve to give them my money. Woe is me.

Haha made me laugh 

[Dark_Caduceus]

How dare I criticize a game with a horrible story, full of glitches, unethical cash grabs rushed out the door to meet a profit margin.

You're right, I don't deserve another Mass Effect, I don't deserve that sort of punishment.

[shurikenmanta]

Savber100 wrote...
Bashing everything Bioware does when you ALREADY see it as trash is like eating your own vomit after eating something you think as nasty. It's stupid and irrational.

2) You are not persuading anyone online on your point of view. So why keep saying that Bioware has failed you etc or that the ending is the worst evur since the Holocaust? There is little point except to stroke your little insecure egos in the knowledge that you are somehow more upright and correct than the developers (who are also human beings) or fans that *gasp* actually enjoyed Mass Effect 3.

I like this guy.

[ioannisdenton]

Yeah. +1 to OP.
Ban Mass effect.
EVEry game after it willbe a shadow.
Me3 damaged the franchise beyond recognition.

[Little Princess Peach]

you do realise they will make ME4 if we thiink tis a good idea or not right

[Morty Smith]

I don´t get it. I thought there is as much praise as there is critizism. It was always sold that way.

[Zeroth Angel]

Greylycantrope wrote...

You're right I don't deserve to give them my money. Woe is me.

Best first post ever. 

[dorktainian]

Savber100 wrote...

I agree OP.

IT'S FINE TO HATE A SHODDY PRODUCT.but WHAT IS THE POINT OF DWELLING ON IT?

Basically to all haters, hammer these points into your skulls:

1) Bioware has changed. You either like it, accept it, or don't. After that, MOVE the frack on. Bashing everything Bioware does when you ALREADY see it as trash is like eating your own vomit after eating something you think as nasty. It's stupid and irrational.

2) You are not persuading anyone online on your point of view. So why keep saying that Bioware has failed you etc or that the ending is the worst evur since the Holocaust? There is little point except to stroke your little insecure egos in the knowledge that you are somehow more upright and correct than the developers (who are also human beings) or fans that *gasp* actually enjoyed Mass Effect 3.

 best laugh i've had in ages.  Well done.