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[The Desolator]

OneTrueShot wrote...

I PREDICT A RIOT.

Make It Happen

[Titus Thongger]

I predict rivers of blood and tears of rage

[I3astion]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

I have an issue with people that like to look forward the rain of tears of others. A Harrier nerf just gonna be more harm than good. Your satisfaction are other people frustration.

That was a poor choice of words on my part. I don't have the lightest sense of humor. My apologies.

But can you really say that there isn't an issue with a weapon that's so far above others in its class that it's not only suggested but *encouraged* that nearly all classes wield it? Even those that only a short while ago would have been laughed out of a lobby for having anything less that a 200% power recharge rate?

[Necrotya]

Why call for any nerfs in the first place?.....feeling a kit is OP?...go with squishy kit vs collector on platinum solo... feel that game is too hard for you...go silver/bronze...feel that the gun X is OP, use Y and enjoy the game...
This game is ( not perfetly ) quite ballanced, why call for nerfs?

[RiouHotaru]

I3astion wrote...

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

I have an issue with people that like to look forward the rain of tears of others. A Harrier nerf just gonna be more harm than good. Your satisfaction are other people frustration.

That was a poor choice of words on my part. I don't have the lightest sense of humor. My apologies.

But can you really say that there isn't an issue with a weapon that's so far above others in its class that it's not only suggested but *encouraged* that nearly all classes wield it? Even those that only a short while ago would have been laughed out of a lobby for having anything less that a 200% power recharge rate?

And it's not like the other guns are fesiable.  They make you take longer to kill things, but they aren't by any means bad.  People want to min-max, which I understand, but they can't start complaining when oh look...they can't do it.

[The Mysterious Stranger]

OneTrueShot wrote...

I PREDICT A RIOT.

[ISHYGDDT]

I predict nothing will happen to the Harrier, because nothing has happened to the Harrier since it's release, because the Harrier is not actually OP compared to the Raider, Piranha, PPR, or Reegar, all of which are around the same weight. If anything gets hit with the nerf bat I'll bet it's either TGI's tactical cloak or Stimpacks, yeah the Havok will get hit harder, but it hasn't really stopped them before (see hunter mode nerf.)

[Crimson Vanguard]

ISHYGDDT wrote...

I predict nothing will happen to the Harrier, because nothing has happened to the Harrier since it's release, because the Harrier is not actually OP compared to the Raider, Piranha, PPR, or Reegar, all of which are around the same weight. If anything gets hit with the nerf bat I'll bet it's either TGI's tactical cloak or Stimpacks, yeah the Havok will get hit harder, but it hasn't really stopped them before (see hunter mode nerf.)

They did nerf the Harrier once

[I3astion]

RiouHotaru wrote...

And it's not like the other guns are fesiable.  They make you take longer to kill things, but they aren't by any means bad.  People want to min-max, which I understand, but they can't start complaining when oh look...they can't do it.

That's just it. The other guns *are* fesiable. But when the consensus (Ha.. Legion) is that X gun is the best in the class why does anyone have a reason to look at Y or Z or hell.. Q? Niche guns like the Falcon find thier place sure but take this for example:

Barge6000 wrote...

They cant nerf the harrier, the. We won't have a powerful and versatile fully auto AR, which is essential in a shooter series.

if they nerfed it, it would be an average dmg weapon with a small clip, some recoil, playstlye killing reserve ammo and a high weight.

The Phaestron is a mid damage versitile AR with a decent clip and it's readily avaliable in any Vetran pack for 20k credits. *This* is what I'm advocating. Consider other weapons. Don't just hang them on the wall to break out for a challenge then leave to rot.

[Alxea_Eve]

Why nerf a N7 weapon that is ultra rare and make it as effective or less effective then a uncommon weapon? Boggles the mind even tho I hardly ever use it to begin with. I use the geth SMG the most over any other SMG just because I like how it looks and sounds. All my damage comes from Melee cus I am a kroguard. Hardly ever fire a shot most of the time.

[Chevyboy88]

I predict that after eating that plate of salsa and chips I will not sleep as well as I like tonight.

[ISHYGDDT]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...

ISHYGDDT wrote...

I predict nothing will happen to the Harrier, because nothing has happened to the Harrier since it's release, because the Harrier is not actually OP compared to the Raider, Piranha, PPR, or Reegar, all of which are around the same weight. If anything gets hit with the nerf bat I'll bet it's either TGI's tactical cloak or Stimpacks, yeah the Havok will get hit harder, but it hasn't really stopped them before (see hunter mode nerf.)

They did nerf the Harrier once

Kind of.  Though it seems like it was just a data entry error when they released it, because all other Weapons decreased by 0.5 weight as they levelled up at the time, having the Harrier originally be 1.75-1.0 was probably not intentional.

Modifié par ISHYGDDT, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:21 .

[FellowMusicFan]

I don't think they'll scale back the Harrier. I think they've realized that nerfing one thing to match inferior weapons isn't the way to go anymore. If anything they'll be buffing the AR's again (except for the Harrier). I'm still hoping for a huge buff to the silver level shotguns myself. They are almost never used. In fact, most shotguns are never used in general combat conditions except for specialized loadouts 8/10. And when they aren't they are completely inefficient. I'd love to see the Scimitar be actually useful.

[NucularPikinic]

OneTrueShot wrote...

I PREDICT A RIOT.

Just another day.

[I3astion]

Alxea_Eve wrote...

Why nerf a N7 weapon that is ultra rare and make it as effective or less effective then a uncommon weapon? Boggles the mind even tho I hardly ever use it to begin with. I use the geth SMG the most over any other SMG just because I like how it looks and sounds. All my damage comes from Melee cus I am a kroguard. Hardly ever fire a shot most of the time.

So the rarity of the item should dictate it's usefulness?

Also good on you for using a weapon because you like it. Have you considered the Collector SMG? It has a similiar feel even down to the little 'gun wings' on the top.

Modifié par I3astion, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:20 .

[himegoto]

2 of the good players on my list just recently quit me3 for other games. Perfect time for biower to ****** off more existing player base.

OP you got my attention, but please stfu and don't give them more ideas.
And tbh I don't care much if they nerf the harriar, I care about the shrinking player base. Already hard to find some decent regs to play with that don't lag. This goes on I may be forced to quit this game too in a month max.

[Crimson Vanguard]

I3astion wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

And it's not like the other guns are fesiable.  They make you take longer to kill things, but they aren't by any means bad.  People want to min-max, which I understand, but they can't start complaining when oh look...they can't do it.

That's just it. The other guns *are* fesiable. But when the consensus (Ha.. Legion) is that X gun is the best in the class why does anyone have a reason to look at Y or Z or hell.. Q? Niche guns like the Falcon find thier place sure but take this for example:

Barge6000 wrote...

They cant nerf the harrier, the. We won't have a powerful and versatile fully auto AR, which is essential in a shooter series.

if they nerfed it, it would be an average dmg weapon with a small clip, some recoil, playstlye killing reserve ammo and a high weight.

The Phaestron is a mid damage versitile AR with a decent clip and it's readily avaliable in any Vetran pack for 20k credits. *This* is what I'm advocating. Consider other weapons. Don't just hang them on the wall to break out for a challenge then leave to rot.

To be honest the problem lies on how the other AR are totally underpowered. The only pewpewpew AR that is good besides the Harrier is the Mattock which is Harrier's younger brother.

Phaeston? Seriously what kind of crap is that no wonder the Turian is losing the war. Because ****** can't kill stuffs
The Striker is tricky to use and was associated with Missile Glitcher.
The Falcon is outshined by Acolyte/Scorpion unless used with certain classes.
GPR is good on Geth Engineer because of Fire Explosion, without that it just a pos.
Saber is a scopless Sniper Rifle.
Valkyrie is crap.
Argus is not any better without certain classes and ammo power.
Vindicator? Mattock says get lost.
Avenger is common, get lost.
Typhoon? Many good things but also too many weakness.
Revenant? I need a smartchoke for this gun, no serious
CAR? Another Phaeston

Modifié par Crimson Vanguard, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:23 .

[IllusiveManJr]

I know you meant GPR instead of GPS. But prepare to be ridiculed for it.

[BOSSTER23]

I believe for the first time in a while we will get mass AR buffs...but chances are the harrier will be altered in someway shape or form...which doesn't bother me much because I'm so sick of seeing a harrier in every game I play and its to the point where I don't even want to use it anymore...it's been a long time coming

[Barge6000]

Bastion are you advocating taking a phaeston to gold and plat and relying on it? Or are you advocating the division between you know and ULTRA RARE and something readily available in a 20k vet pack?

[Weeshka]

FasterThanFTL wrote...

If Havoc Strike starts recharging shields I will be okay with the nerf, otherwise dont touch the stimulant packs.

this

[himegoto]

Crimson Vanguard wrote...
To be honest the problem lies on how the other AR are totally underpowered. The only pewpewpew AR that is good besides the Harrier is the Mattock which is Harrier's younger brother.

And this.
Again I want to point out that some poster made 2 threads on AR vs Atlas in platinum and SMGs vs Atlas in platinum.

Although there were a lot of variables in the test the majority of the SMGs just blows ARs out in DPS.
We also all know too SMGs are more accurate than most ARs.

[Olivia Wilde]

theillusiveman11 wrote...

I know you meant GPR instead of GPS. But prepare to be ridiculed for it.

Since the thread refers to an assault rifle a safe assumption

I don't think a Harrier nerf will happen since weapons are optimized for gold and I don't see the Harrier as OP in gold

[Bon3zz1001]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Bon3zz1001 wrote...

Dr. Akairos wrote...

Stimulant pack nerf.

Except nerfing Stim Packs will just further ruin the already horrible Havoc Soldier.

Really?  He's amazing if people would stop thinking or using him like a Vanguard.

Kind of creates a problem when Havoc Strike is essentially Biotic Charge except it doesn't refill your shields. Other than the fact that he has a jetpack, there isn't much of a point in even playing him over the Turian Soldier.

[Ashevajak]

ZombieGambit wrote...

I hope for Krysae, Scimitar, CAR, CSMG, and Valkyrie buffs.

Does the Krysae really need a buff?  I'll admit, I haven't played with it an awful lot, but every time I have, it has seemed plenty powerful to me.