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Balance Changes tomorrow, what is your guess as to what they will be?


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Those who think the Harrier is OP have no idea how a well played Reegar or a PPR are superior to it. Or they also think the Reegar and the PPR are OP and should be nerfed.


Its true been outplayed by a reegar user and a PPR user or even a human infiltrator with a collector sniper rifle even though I was going super try hard mode with the TGI and the harrier, that one human infiltrator was amazing with that collector sniper rifle. 

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MastahDisastah wrote...

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Given that the Harrier is being heavily utilized by people in the box of shame as are Volus spamming Shield Boost, I'm guessing that Bioware will nerf these two things. Also bear in mind before my Earth DLC info went crazy, Bioware wasn't too buff happy with their Balance Changes. So I missed out on all those "good buffs, no nerfs" weeks.


Don't get me wrong OP, I appreciated your other thread about assault rifles, but claiming the harrier will be nerfed, along with shield boost, to counteract some PLATINUM farming technique is just silly.
Bioware won't balance things around platinum, would be just a total stupidity.


I never claimed it would be nerfed. My title specifically says "predict" which in my language class I learned is akin to "guess." No claiming here. 

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N7 Rixus wrote...

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Those who think the Harrier is OP have no idea how a well played Reegar or a PPR are superior to it. Or they also think the Reegar and the PPR are OP and should be nerfed.


Its true been outplayed by a reegar user and a PPR user or even a human infiltrator with a collector sniper rifle even though I was going super try hard mode with the TGI and the harrier, that one human infiltrator was amazing with that collector sniper rifle. 


All Rare/UR weapons are designed to be outstanding if 'well played'.
Harrier required no such skill to compete with any other weapons available.
I don`t use Harrier that much, and I don`t want the Harrier to be nerfed. I like it when my PUG teammates do decent thanks to the Harrier they are holding.

But more people are unlocking Harrier as of now, and the weapon is becoming extremely popular.
TGI is able to kill a Gold Husk with one shot from Harrier.. this was very surprising to me.

I don`t want the Harrier to be nerfed.. but I won`t be surprised if BW nerfs it. (As long as it`s reasonable change..)

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Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Those who think the Harrier is OP have no idea how a well played Reegar or a PPR are superior to it. Or they also think the Reegar and the PPR are OP and should be nerfed.


I prefer the Harrier to the PPR. But, I think the PPR, Sabre and Harrier are about the same in terms of top rated ARs in the game. The Harrier is just easier to use, anybody can just pick it up and use it effectively, throw on what ever you want and it still performs. PPR has a slight learning curve to it, people have to know what mods to stick on to get the most out of it and not get carried away with the overheat. Still an awesome gun though, I'd easily rank it a close second after the Harrier in my ARs.

Reegar, yeah it's very nasty. I used it on the Geth trooper with Hunter mode and Fortification and Fitness, just run up tank everything and melt everyone's face, I was also carrying a Harrier for giggles.

Still don't want the Harrier nerfed though it's not OP, just easier to use and not suck with, good players will still wipe the floor with you, even if you are using a Harrier.

Modifié par billy the squid, 27 novembre 2012 - 11:28 .


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theillusiveman11 wrote...

 Still Monday here, but for Balance Changes I'm predicting a nerf to Harrier damage and an increase to Shield Boost cool down. Anyone else got any guesses?


Why the hell would the decrease the cooldown for shield boost? If anything they really need to decrease the cooldown for the biotic orbs and make the final evo debuff enemies for more than 6 seconds. It stacks 3 times but by the time the third orb has hit the first debuff has ran out ... so dumb.

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MastahDisastah wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

Given that the Harrier is being heavily utilized by people in the box of shame as are Volus spamming Shield Boost, I'm guessing that Bioware will nerf these two things. Also bear in mind before my Earth DLC info went crazy, Bioware wasn't too buff happy with their Balance Changes. So I missed out on all those "good buffs, no nerfs" weeks.


Don't get me wrong OP, I appreciated your other thread about assault rifles, but claiming the harrier will be nerfed, along with shield boost, to counteract some PLATINUM farming technique is just silly.
Bioware won't balance things around platinum, would be just a total stupidity.


I never claimed it would be nerfed. My title specifically says "predict" which in my language class I learned is akin to "guess." No claiming here. 


Well that is not a huge difference.
However, claim or predict a nerf according to platinum games still remains pointless.
Now if you can provide some other reasons on why they would nerf it according to your opinion would be better, bearing in mind that very few people have URs at level X, and those who would get the worse nerf are people with low levels URs.

Modifié par MastahDisastah, 27 novembre 2012 - 11:33 .


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The other part of my claim/prediction/opinion/statement/guess/etc. was that it is undeniably largely used by the player base. But I feel like I'm starting to go around in circles now.

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Harrier, considering how hard it is to get, needs a buf. We'll need to nerf that small ammo capacity and put it in its place with about a 25% boost. Guess it just depends on perspective :D

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theillusiveman11 wrote...

The other part of my claim/prediction/opinion/statement/guess/etc. was that it is undeniably largely used by the player base. But I feel like I'm starting to go around in circles now.


Hey, let's not get geometrically abusive! Circles are good, we wouldn't have the wheel without them.

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Boog_89 wrote...

theillusiveman11 wrote...

 Still Monday here, but for Balance Changes I'm predicting a nerf to Harrier damage and an increase to Shield Boost cool down. Anyone else got any guesses?


Why the hell would the decrease the cooldown for shield boost? If anything they really need to decrease the cooldown for the biotic orbs and make the final evo debuff enemies for more than 6 seconds. It stacks 3 times but by the time the third orb has hit the first debuff has ran out ... so dumb.


'Increase' not decrease. Making it not as frequent in that context.

Modifié par Uchimura, 27 novembre 2012 - 11:38 .


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I'm actually going to sleep now. It's almost 2 AM here and it's going to take many hours for Omega to download on my connection.

I'll just reiterate, I'm jaded when it comes to balance changes. This is because I "missed out" on the "good" balance changes and Bioware has stated that they want variety in play styles. A majority of players use the Harrier. A nerf would be logical.

In a previous thread I stated I'd see the Harrier balanced by buffing other ARs and leaving the Harrier alone. I'm not avdocating a nerf. These are just my opinions, I'm sorry if they offend you.

I also apologize for any miscommunication. English is my third language and I try very hard to speak well.

Goodnight.

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Well good sleep then, I am not offended, simply I think you could have supported just your other thread, which is more than right as the final conclusion is the same.

Also, you could have spared this

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You do not have permission to view this page. The user whose page you are trying to view has placed you on their blocklist. "


meh...

Modifié par MastahDisastah, 27 novembre 2012 - 11:48 .


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Some time in the DA:II forums and a crazy BSNer made me a little over cautious when it comes to... pushy people. Sorry.

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A nerf to harrier damage? How about a buff to just about every pea-shooting AR, which would make far more sense.

You can't touch stimpacks without hurting the havoc worse than the ghost. It has been said for over a month now, which is likely the main reason they haven't been nerfed yet.

Pretty much this. The Harrier hits hard, but the clip capacity is extraordinary low. Depending on character/gear, you pretty much have to run for an ammo box or use an ammo pack after 2 Banshees or so. On silver it's not a huge issue, but on Gold and especially Platinum, it forces you to leave a comfortable position or switch to a sidearm..

Instead of nerfing the Harrier, it'd be smarter to tweak the other ARs to have more utility. i.e. Decrease the weight of the Valkyrie so more caster classes can use it without scarificing recharge speed (isn't it an Asari-made weapon, anyway?). This way, an Ultra Rare AR will still be Ultra Rare quality, while the AR lineup will mamintain diversity in utility.

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Ah well, no problem, I hope your predictions wouldn't come true, though.
Would be unpleasant.

Genprey wrote...

Instead of nerfing the Harrier, it'd be smarter to tweak the other ARs to have more utility. i.e. Decrease the weight of the Valkyrie so more caster classes can use it without scarificing recharge speed (isn't it an Asari-made weapon, anyway?). This way, an Ultra Rare AR will still be Ultra Rare quality, while the AR lineup will mamintain diversity in utility.


This so much, apart the valkyrie thing, which is an alliance gun.
For example a revenant accuracy buff would be interesting.

Modifié par MastahDisastah, 27 novembre 2012 - 11:56 .


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I don't know if I'm looking forward to the rain of tears at a Harrier damage reduction.

"Noes you nerf the best assault rifle! Whut will I use on my TGI/any Soldier/Asari Adept now?"


Particle Rifle for Soldiers, Wraith/Indra for AA

The Saber and Particle Rifle only weigh .15 more than the Harrier, and with confirmed Saber buffs in the near future it's looking to be an awesome alternative..


Where?

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Kenadian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

I3astion wrote...

I don't know if I'm looking forward to the rain of tears at a Harrier damage reduction.

"Noes you nerf the best assault rifle! Whut will I use on my TGI/any Soldier/Asari Adept now?"


Particle Rifle for Soldiers, Wraith/Indra for AA

The Saber and Particle Rifle only weigh .15 more than the Harrier, and with confirmed Saber buffs in the near future it's looking to be an awesome alternative..


Where?


Here.

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Lathrim wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Ashen Earth wrote...

I3astion wrote...

I don't know if I'm looking forward to the rain of tears at a Harrier damage reduction.

"Noes you nerf the best assault rifle! Whut will I use on my TGI/any Soldier/Asari Adept now?"


Particle Rifle for Soldiers, Wraith/Indra for AA

The Saber and Particle Rifle only weigh .15 more than the Harrier, and with confirmed Saber buffs in the near future it's looking to be an awesome alternative..


Where?


Here.

It's about time.

They'll probably just buff it by 10% though.:unsure:

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Oh, sweet. Favourite AR getting more buffs? Please do.

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joker_jack wrote...

Tomorrow we will either get the batarian slasher (which looks like another vorcha hunter level fail) or the quarian marksmen. At which time bioware can also kiss alot of that omega dlc money good bye.


I like the vorcha hunter. Fun to play, decent survivability, and the ability to quickly stick geth hunters before they do a lot of damage is awesome.

I vastly prefer the net-incinerate combo to net-shockwave, because shockwave is a pain in the ass to aim while moving. The Batarian sentinel is great at camping, which is ok, but the hunter matches a different playstyle with similar power concepts. I like that, it makes the game more interesting.

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I'm waiting for any improvements towards Havoc Strike.

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I predict a acolyte nerf.

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I predict that there'll be a few cautious buffs to various weapons and maybe some powers. There may be some tweaks to the enemies, probably more likely to be nerfs than buffs. In addition there could be one or two similarly cautious weapon or power nerfs.

Further to this, I predict that the buffs/enemy nerfs will receive a few polite thank-yous on BSN, while those one or two nerfs will cause floods of rage, rains of anguish and cries of "YOU HAVE RUINED THIS GAME FOREVER!!!11!!one!".

In addition if the randomly selected (just my opinion, not a known fact) kit released this week isn't the Drell Infiltrator, (which is apparently the inalienable right of some players to receive), the wailing and gnashing of teeth will exceed even that which was experienced when Destroyer Mode got a small nerf a while back.

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MastahDisastah wrote...

Ah well, no problem, I hope your predictions wouldn't come true, though.
Would be unpleasant.

Genprey wrote...

Instead of nerfing the Harrier, it'd be smarter to tweak the other ARs to have more utility. i.e. Decrease the weight of the Valkyrie so more caster classes can use it without scarificing recharge speed (isn't it an Asari-made weapon, anyway?). This way, an Ultra Rare AR will still be Ultra Rare quality, while the AR lineup will mamintain diversity in utility.


This so much, apart the valkyrie thing, which is an alliance gun.
For example a revenant accuracy buff would be interesting.

Huh. Wonder why I thought it was an Asari weapon? But you get the point.

Modifié par Genprey, 27 novembre 2012 - 12:08 .


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funny that just mentioning harrier and posibly nerf in a post is almost always 4 pages atleast of coments