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Do we get any new bonus powers? Nyreen's bubble seemed pretty interesting from the description.

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LazyTechGuy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

I hate to ask a question that's probably been asked five trillion times already. I've tried to find an answer on my own before asking but I can't find one.

Why? Why are we there? Aria emails us and we're off? Is that it? What justifies stopping your war efforts for this?

Resourses for the war. The obvious anwser.


Mmmm.  I just don't get why Shepard is just Aria's mindless poodle.  I mean, yeah, we tell ourselves "war resources" as the motivation for Shepard going, but it doesn't sound like it's of any help against the Reaper War, which is the main conflict of the game.  Just feels like Aria outranks Hackett for no reason and there's no real in-story reason for us to be holding pep rallies in Afterlife while Earth is kinda getting shot to hell.

How would more resourse to you and less to cerberus not help Shepard?

Modifié par dreman9999, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:37 .


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You know what I want a Palaven DLC noa

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BINO973 wrote...

Do we get any new bonus powers? Nyreen's bubble seemed pretty interesting from the description.


Lash and Flare.

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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

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I'd say it's LotSB-tier DLC, but not Awakenings-tier...which means it's overpriced.

You do understand that counters you arguement agenst the dlc being how many people loved lotsb.

Uh...no. Since LotSB was $7-10 (depending on when you bought it) and Awakenings was $15, same as Omega.

I said above it's fun to play, and probably would've been worth a LotSB-type price point, but there is definitely not enough there to justify a $15 price tag.


Actually, for a lot of people LotSB was free.  PS3 people got it for free.   Last I looked, no one legitimately got Leviathan for free and no one will legitimately get this for free.  And LotSB wasn't just running and gunning and explosions and Liara dies, no matter what.  And it actually set up some things that could have been better used in ME3.  The problem was that LotSB was originally supposed to be a part of the main game (where have we heard this before).  With it though, if you paid for it, you felt like you got at least your money's worth-it seemed very expansive and imaginative.  The SB's ship on the outside alone made it seem worth it.  And the story was great as well.

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dreman9999 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I'd say it's LotSB-tier DLC, but not Awakenings-tier...which means it's overpriced.

You do understand that counters you arguement agenst the dlc being how many people loved lotsb.

Uh...no. Since LotSB was $7-10 (depending on when you bought it) and Awakenings was $15, same as Omega.

I said above it's fun to play, and probably would've been worth a LotSB-type price point, but there is definitely not enough there to justify a $15 price tag.

Awakenings did not launch at $15. In fact it  $40, to your referance to cost vs quality. It's not like people did not complain about the cost of the lotsb dlc.

My mistake. Last I checked before the Ultimate Edition came out, it was $15 by itself. Still.

People felt LotSB was worth its price, that it was a good value. Considering Omega is at a higher price point than LotSB, but is similar in quality (maybe a bit less, IMO), my argument still stands. Not to mention when you break down the costs of a regular $60 game, $15 is 1/4 of that price. Can't say I got a 1/4 of a game's worth of quality out of it, I can tell you that much.

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It was okay, but I don't feel that it was worth the 15 dollar price. In ME2 you had the option of returning to the Shadow Broker's lair. You could even interact with the intel there. Nothing I've noticed with Omega. You start the mission and you have to finish it in one go. You can't leave. Half the DLC Nyreen isn't present in the party. I was disappointed in that.

The story was great though. Still working on those fetch quests. Apparently I wasn't thorough enough on my first run through the DLC. Some spooky areas in there I appreciated.

Maybe I expected TOO much from the DLC.. I'd give it a solid 7/10, but that's just my opinion.

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dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

I hate to ask a question that's probably been asked five trillion times already. I've tried to find an answer on my own before asking but I can't find one.

Why? Why are we there? Aria emails us and we're off? Is that it? What justifies stopping your war efforts for this?

Resourses for the war. The obvious anwser.


Mmmm.  I just don't get why Shepard is just Aria's mindless poodle.  I mean, yeah, we tell ourselves "war resources" as the motivation for Shepard going, but it doesn't sound like it's of any help against the Reaper War, which is the main conflict of the game.  Just feels like Aria outranks Hackett for no reason and there's no real in-story reason for us to be holding pep rallies in Afterlife while Earth is kinda getting shot to hell.

How would more resourse to you and less to cerberus not help Shepard?


Ok, dreman if more resources is a help to Shepard, what does it change as far as the ending?  Leviathan added resources, too.  Did that change anything and do something additionally to help Shepard?

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3DandBeyond wrote...

Ok, dreman if more resources is a help to Shepard, what does it change as far as the ending?  Leviathan added resources, too.  Did that change anything and do something additionally to help Shepard?


Unlike Leviathan, Omega does point out the value in denying Cerberus continued access to the Terminus Systems. I'm not saying this will be a sufficient reason for everyone, but I felt like that was reason enough for Shepard to drop what he was doing.

I will say this much though. In hindsight, I feel that Leviathan was the superior DLC. It related to a story issue I think most Mass Effect fans considered more relevant and, I thought anyway, that it felt like a legitimate side story that was fitting of a DLC. Omega, on the other hand, was blantantly supposed to be a part of the vanilla game. This already made me upset that we were paying more for it. The fact that not only did I have to pay for it but it was a shadow of what it was supposed to be in the vanilla game was just salt in the wound.

Modifié par DarkSeraphym, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:42 .


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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I'd say it's LotSB-tier DLC, but not Awakenings-tier...which means it's overpriced.

You do understand that counters you arguement agenst the dlc being how many people loved lotsb.

Uh...no. Since LotSB was $7-10 (depending on when you bought it) and Awakenings was $15, same as Omega.

I said above it's fun to play, and probably would've been worth a LotSB-type price point, but there is definitely not enough there to justify a $15 price tag.

Awakenings did not launch at $15. In fact it  $40, to your referance to cost vs quality. It's not like people did not complain about the cost of the lotsb dlc.

My mistake. Last I checked before the Ultimate Edition came out, it was $15 by itself. Still.

People felt LotSB was worth its price, that it was a good value. Considering Omega is at a higher price point than LotSB, but is similar in quality (maybe a bit less, IMO), my argument still stands. Not to mention when you break down the costs of a regular $60 game, $15 is 1/4 of that price. Can't say I got a 1/4 of a game's worth of quality out of it, I can tell you that much.

Ok then, I'm not going to argue with over it's cost.

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Heres my pros and cons

Pros

+ Nyreen was an intresting char
+ 2 new enemies, the adjutants worked well enough
+ Gave you this nice Total Recall(the original, not the remake) vibe while playing through, the eezo mines brought in mind the final act of that movie especially

Cons

+ There wasnt really any wow moment for me
+ Seemed overpriced for its content and lenght

Modifié par Armass81, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:44 .


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3DandBeyond wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

I hate to ask a question that's probably been asked five trillion times already. I've tried to find an answer on my own before asking but I can't find one.

Why? Why are we there? Aria emails us and we're off? Is that it? What justifies stopping your war efforts for this?

Resourses for the war. The obvious anwser.


Mmmm.  I just don't get why Shepard is just Aria's mindless poodle.  I mean, yeah, we tell ourselves "war resources" as the motivation for Shepard going, but it doesn't sound like it's of any help against the Reaper War, which is the main conflict of the game.  Just feels like Aria outranks Hackett for no reason and there's no real in-story reason for us to be holding pep rallies in Afterlife while Earth is kinda getting shot to hell.

How would more resourse to you and less to cerberus not help Shepard?


Ok, dreman if more resources is a help to Shepard, what does it change as far as the ending?  Leviathan added resources, too.  Did that change anything and do something additionally to help Shepard?


Well maybe someone should play the ending for the awnser? Altough it doens't seem likely that the Catalyst will give a new line for Omega.

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dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

I hate to ask a question that's probably been asked five trillion times already. I've tried to find an answer on my own before asking but I can't find one.

Why? Why are we there? Aria emails us and we're off? Is that it? What justifies stopping your war efforts for this?

Resourses for the war. The obvious anwser.


Mmmm.  I just don't get why Shepard is just Aria's mindless poodle.  I mean, yeah, we tell ourselves "war resources" as the motivation for Shepard going, but it doesn't sound like it's of any help against the Reaper War, which is the main conflict of the game.  Just feels like Aria outranks Hackett for no reason and there's no real in-story reason for us to be holding pep rallies in Afterlife while Earth is kinda getting shot to hell.

How would more recourse to you and less to cerberus not help Shepard?


Just feels shallow.  I don't know.  Maybe that's all there is to it and it's that black-and-white.  I was just expecting a better reason that justified the risk of leaving my entire crew and ship behind just so I can jump into the biggest criminal spot in the galaxy and stop a faction I'm already (or am close to) tracking to their home base.

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:47 .


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CDRSkyShepard wrote...

My mistake. Last I checked before the Ultimate Edition came out, it was $15 by itself. Still.

People felt LotSB was worth its price, that it was a good value. Considering Omega is at a higher price point than LotSB, but is similar in quality (maybe a bit less, IMO), my argument still stands. Not to mention when you break down the costs of a regular $60 game, $15 is 1/4 of that price. Can't say I got a 1/4 of a game's worth of quality out of it, I can tell you that much.


Awakenings was considered an expansion and its price did depend somewhat on how and when you bought it.  It could be bought on disk, for instance.

Most people felt LotSB was a good value, but as I said the rumblings were that it was originally supposed to be a part (and a much larger one) of the full game.  In fact, had you romanced Liara in ME1 and then not gotten LotSB the whole thing becomes pretty clear what they were doing in making that DLC instead of part of the game.  They knew full well that people would be mad at themselves as they hit the button to buy it.  But, still it was free for some people and it was a really good DLC.  It also made sense.  Fighting for Omega doesn't make any sense unless it really helps and adds to something.

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Based on reading this thread I think this will be the first BioWare DLC I don't download, that's including armor and weapon packs. Well i don't have the most recent armor pack but I was planning on getting that with this DLC and starting Mass Effect 3 again, seems like I'll be skipping playing it again.

I had such high hopes for Omega a few months back, expecting BioWare to right the wrongs, but it seems like they continue to just do everything wrong, why are they going back Mass Effect 2 style and not including our companions as squad mates in the DLC, why make a female Turian when I assume most players would rather have their LI in this mission.

Why is Omega not a hub city, that might be the thing that players want most because then they could add small quests with the Mass Effect 2 squad mates that got crapped on in the game.

I don't even know if I would buy this if it's half price because then it still costs more than Overlord did, and that's a much better DLC then what this one sounds like.

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Thanks for the feedback to all the people who played. Appreciate it guys. I think I'll pass Omega for now.
Will wait patiently for the next SP DLC, cheers!

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LazyTechGuy wrote...

Just feels shallow.  I don't know.  Maybe that's all there is to it and it's that black-and-white.  I was just expecting a better reason that justified the risk of leaving my entire crew and ship behind just so I can jump into the biggest criminal spot in the galaxy and stop a faction where I'm already (or am close to) tracking their home base.


I agree. You can say "resources!" or "get an advantage over cerberus!" or "moar shepard!" but all together it does seem like an out-of-place tangent in a story-line that's heavily driven by the reaper war. I don't *need* the omega resources, and I'll take Cerberus down without Aria's help, so...

In any case, I can't say I'm surprised it turned out that way.

Modifié par MassEffectFShep, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:49 .


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So why Shepard? Hes a commander, shurely he can command someone to help Aria?

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So, there's one female turian in the whole ME series and they kill her off? Oh, boy.

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AstusOz wrote...

So, there's one female turian in the whole ME series and they kill her off? Oh, boy.


*cue BSN rage forums*

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3DandBeyond wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

My mistake. Last I checked before the Ultimate Edition came out, it was $15 by itself. Still.

People felt LotSB was worth its price, that it was a good value. Considering Omega is at a higher price point than LotSB, but is similar in quality (maybe a bit less, IMO), my argument still stands. Not to mention when you break down the costs of a regular $60 game, $15 is 1/4 of that price. Can't say I got a 1/4 of a game's worth of quality out of it, I can tell you that much.


Awakenings was considered an expansion and its price did depend somewhat on how and when you bought it.  It could be bought on disk, for instance.

Most people felt LotSB was a good value, but as I said the rumblings were that it was originally supposed to be a part (and a much larger one) of the full game.  In fact, had you romanced Liara in ME1 and then not gotten LotSB the whole thing becomes pretty clear what they were doing in making that DLC instead of part of the game.  They knew full well that people would be mad at themselves as they hit the button to buy it.  But, still it was free for some people and it was a really good DLC.  It also made sense.  Fighting for Omega doesn't make any sense unless it really helps and adds to something.

How does debilitating cerberus resources not make sense?

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Grubas wrote...

So why Shepard? Hes a commander, shurely he can command someone to help Aria?


Aria explains that she knew she could not best Cerberus in naval combat, it had to be a ground assault. She wanted Shepard because she only hires the best. Can't say I disagree with her decision as Shepard seems to get results in the face of impossible odds.

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Maybe Omega files contains some leaks about next DLC?

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LazyTechGuy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

I hate to ask a question that's probably been asked five trillion times already. I've tried to find an answer on my own before asking but I can't find one.

Why? Why are we there? Aria emails us and we're off? Is that it? What justifies stopping your war efforts for this?

Resourses for the war. The obvious anwser.


Mmmm.  I just don't get why Shepard is just Aria's mindless poodle.  I mean, yeah, we tell ourselves "war resources" as the motivation for Shepard going, but it doesn't sound like it's of any help against the Reaper War, which is the main conflict of the game.  Just feels like Aria outranks Hackett for no reason and there's no real in-story reason for us to be holding pep rallies in Afterlife while Earth is kinda getting shot to hell.

How would more recourse to you and less to cerberus not help Shepard?


Just feels shallow.  I don't know.  Maybe that's all there is to it and it's that black-and-white.  I was just expecting a better reason that justified the risk of leaving my entire crew and ship behind just so I can jump into the biggest criminal spot in the galaxy and stop a faction I'm already (or am close to) tracking to their home base.

I don't see how shallow it is. It's a case of winning a key battle that would help in other batles ageint cerberus in the war.

Modifié par dreman9999, 27 novembre 2012 - 02:59 .


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Thanks everyone for feedback! Think I shall skip this DLC. Wanted Omega as a hub and wanted it to at least develop the story a little bit. Will consider it when its like 600 points.