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[Feneckus]

Stardusk wrote...

Right, don't forget the time we had the exact same loadout on a T.Soldier (Typhoon, consumables) and I was just ahead of you. It's not like it never happens.

Remember how many pizzas you carried during the game ? Or how many devices you activated ?

[Dilandau3000]

So having a 90% success rate on gold is terrible? I'm glad you've all decided you know how bad I am. Really makes me glad I posted this thread. For the record, that makes Feneckus the first non-terrible player I've seen in 1200 games. No wonder you people complain about pugs if a team that could've easily finished the mission even without Feneckus there still counts as terrible.

[Stardusk]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

So having a 90% success rate on gold is terrible? I'm glad you've all decided you know how bad I am. Really makes me glad I posted this thread. For the record, that makes Feneckus the first non-terrible player I've seen in 1200 games. No wonder you people complain about pugs if a team that could've easily finished the mission even without Feneckus there still counts as terrible.

There are different ways of quantifying success. I go mostly by medals first, then score, then finishing. But if Feneckus is getting that score then something is wrong with the team.

[bobby_paradise]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

I played with Feneckus today, first time I recall seeing a BSNer in a game (though I only realized where I knew the name from just now). He scored about 250,000 points in a gold pug.

TWO HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND POINTS! How is that even possible? If I end up in a particularly horrible pug and have to carry them, I might end up with 150,000, tops. And this wasn't a horrible pug. All of us were doing fine, albeit with slightly lower than usual scores because Feneckus apparently had a point magnet stored somewhere on his person.

It's only recently that I've become good at playing gold. I can now take almost any character to gold and make extraction, and not feel like a dead weight, even with non-favoured kits. With my favoured kits I can easily carry a bad pug. But today, I felt as useless as the day I first tried gold.

I quit the lobby after the game, because playing with someone who might as well be playing solo for all the difference you're making isn't fun. Sure, it's easy credits, but also boring.

How anyone can get this good at a game is beyond me.

I used (few month ago) to play quite often with Feneckus. And yeah i felt like sh*t when i played with him. But in the other hand by playing with him, let's say something like 1 month, i learned many more than before. And i play since the release of the game.

But for me it is always fun to see waaaaay better people than me playing, really. You can learn so many things this way. And trying to find a target becomes a challenge sometimes! I couldn't help but laugh when i was playing with him. Not enough enemies!

[Dilandau3000]

Stardusk wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

So having a 90% success rate on gold is terrible? I'm glad you've all decided you know how bad I am. Really makes me glad I posted this thread. For the record, that makes Feneckus the first non-terrible player I've seen in 1200 games. No wonder you people complain about pugs if a team that could've easily finished the mission even without Feneckus there still counts as terrible.

There are different ways of quantifying success. I go mostly by medals first, then score, then finishing. But if Feneckus is getting that score then something is wrong with the team.

okay then, but that does mean that I've never seen a good team, ever. Apparently there are maybe 10 players total who are good by that definition. 

To me a team that can finish the wave if I wipe qualifies as good. Those are rare enough already. I'm sorry us peasants aren't up to your royal standards. 

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 27 novembre 2012 - 04:53 .

[palmof40sorrows]

manbearpig654 wrote...

palmof40sorrows wrote...

Ashen Earth popped into a lobby of mine the other day and I got geeked, as I was looking forward to the prospect of having to step up my game. It was Cerberus/Glacier/Gold. I was using a level 19 Krogan Sentinel with Scimitar (weapons banner challenge dontchaknow), had gear and consumables on. There was one other player there, don't remember what they were playing. I readied, as I'm fairly confident nowadays, and then was mildly bummed when he left.

Ah well, maybe I too can be scorecrushed someday.

Probably would have left too if I saw that set up.  Actually no, I'm an idiot that doesn't know when to quit.

Really, no one is a good enough player to play Gold with a Scimitar? Huh. I'm not amazing, but I know how to get through a Gold match with a sub-par weapon. 

Modifié par palmof40sorrows, 27 novembre 2012 - 04:52 .

[Invader Nemesis]

HolyAvenger wrote...

Nothing like being in a PUG with someone like that make you feel like an utter noob again.

[oO Stryfe Oo]

I haven't played with too many BSNers. The ones I have played with were all of above average quality, but I've only been outscored badly by the ones who know where the spawns are. I have no such knowledge, and I can agree that the ones who kill every enemy before they have a chance to spawn kind of makes the match a little too easy/boring for me. I'd like to shoot something, too.

[Vikingo]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

So having a 90% success rate on gold is terrible? I'm glad you've all decided you know how bad I am. Really makes me glad I posted this thread. For the record, that makes Feneckus the first non-terrible player I've seen in 1200 games. No wonder you people complain about pugs if a team that could've easily finished the mission even without Feneckus there still counts as terrible.

Of course 90% is not terrible.

But you did tell the world that "Feneckus" epeen was huge, now the other epeens have to come in here and find faults with it so their epeens can appear larger.

[Stardusk]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

So having a 90% success rate on gold is terrible? I'm glad you've all decided you know how bad I am. Really makes me glad I posted this thread. For the record, that makes Feneckus the first non-terrible player I've seen in 1200 games. No wonder you people complain about pugs if a team that could've easily finished the mission even without Feneckus there still counts as terrible.

There are different ways of quantifying success. I go mostly by medals first, then score, then finishing. But if Feneckus is getting that score then something is wrong with the team.

okay then, but that does mean that I've never seen a good team, ever. Apparently there are maybe 10 players total who are good by that definition. 

To me a team that can finish the wave if I wipe qualifies as good. Those are rare enough already. I'm sorry us peasants aren't up to your royal standards. 

I fail to see how finishing a game is a measure of good or bad. It's rare anyone wipes, is it not?

[Dbohr]

Feneckus showed up in one of my Gold lobbies once. Then he noticed how utterly noobish we were and left one second later :-D

[HolyAvenger]

Stardusk wrote...

I fail to see how finishing a game is a measure of good or bad. It's rare anyone wipes, is it not?

Go into a gold lobby. Get yourself sync-killed in wave 8 or 9. See for yourself. Do this 10 times, see how many survive.

[Kenadian]

Feneckus wrote...

I'm sorry it was no fun for you, that certainly wasn't my intention.

Scam_poo wrote...

You haven't played with Jay

Yep. That guy is far better than me or anyone else for that matter. He's a machine. He can make good players feel like noobs who have only played a couple of gold games. 

Personally, I think Hotline Miami would give Jay a good run for his money. That game is ****ing twitchy. Good God do you need inhuman reflexes to make it work. Coincidentally, Jay has inhuman reflexes.

Also, don't sell yourself short. You're easily one of the better PC players.

[Dilandau3000]

[quote]Stardusk wrote...

okay then, but that does mean that I've never seen a good team, ever. Apparently there are maybe 10 players total who are good by that definition. 

To me a team that can finish the wave if I wipe qualifies as good. Those are rare enough already. I'm sorry us peasants aren't up to your royal standards. 

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I fail to see how finishing a game is a measure of good or bad. It's rare anyone wipes, is it not?

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i don't know what pugs you play with, but the ones I get its rare if I don't have to finish at least one wave solo. 

[shaorang]

I met feneckus on gold pug yesterday or something and I was host. 'definitely I saw that guy somewhere...' I thought but at that time didn't noticed. (I think we met on several pugs as I being host until now.) He was playing drell something. Sadly he got out in the middle of the game. Maybe some connection lag issue occured. I'm sorry for that game, feneckus. (I'm Garrus something, if you remember.)

[Stardusk]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

So having a 90% success rate on gold is terrible? I'm glad you've all decided you know how bad I am. Really makes me glad I posted this thread. For the record, that makes Feneckus the first non-terrible player I've seen in 1200 games. No wonder you people complain about pugs if a team that could've easily finished the mission even without Feneckus there still counts as terrible.

There are different ways of quantifying success. I go mostly by medals first, then score, then finishing. But if Feneckus is getting that score then something is wrong with the team.

okay then, but that does mean that I've never seen a good team, ever. Apparently there are maybe 10 players total who are good by that definition. 

To me a team that can finish the wave if I wipe qualifies as good. Those are rare enough already. I'm sorry us peasants aren't up to your royal standards. 

I fail to see how finishing a game is a measure of good or bad. It's rare anyone wipes, is it not?

 

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I think you've been playing with me, Jay and Feneckus too much, Stardusk.  Maybe try hosting a full PUG for a while, your opinion of what constitutes a good/bad player might change. 

If a team can complete gold in a fairly timely fashion (< 30 minutes) then IMO they are not a "bad" team and not "bad" players.

I know what a bad player is. Arc Pistol V, Melee Stunner I, QFE, Platinum. That's bad.

[sy7ar]

Feneckus wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Right, don't forget the time we had the exact same loadout on a T.Soldier (Typhoon, consumables) and I was just ahead of you. It's not like it never happens.

Remember how many pizzas you carried during the game ? Or how many devices you activated ?

Hey, how bout lets all fight, muhahah. Red john is red. 

ok ok stardusk just came out of stasis pod for Retaliation, red john joined on wave 11 or something, and infiltrator vs soldier, duh. 

p.s. please, score is not indication of everything, so much to learn in this game. 

[GallowsPole]

Don't you feel bad now about worshipping Internet heroes?

[K_O_513]

Stardusk wrote...

I fail to see how finishing a game is a measure of good or bad. It's rare anyone wipes, is it not?

No, people wipe (especially on gold) a lot more. I don't know exact numbers but I think some statistic came out from Bioware a while ago that basically said (I'm paraphrasing) most gold games end in failure. And just from personal experience, every time I've gotten grabbed in a gold game with PUGs, even if it's just wave 3, we wipe. Hell, even out of the innumerable silver games I've played almost every time I've gotten grabbed the team has wiped shortly afterward.

[Grotaiche]

Stardusk wrote...

I know what a bad player is. Arc Pistol V, Melee Stunner I, QFE, Platinum. That's bad.

No, you can see people with a nice loadout, using consumables and a Hardcore banner and yet fail to survive any wave. Happened to me 2 days ago, Gold/Collectors on Dagger ; 1 guy quit the game early and then I completed most waves by myself or with the other player while the Hardcore guy kept on dying. We wpied on wave 10 after I was instakilled. I got the 15 Revives medal and I'm not a great player.
These things happen quite frequently in Gold PUGs. Not often but it's not as rare as you suggest (or I'm just unlucky).