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[Stardusk]

Jay_Hoxtatron wrote...

Flies_by_Handles wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

So having a 90% success rate on gold is terrible? I'm glad you've all decided you know how bad I am. Really makes me glad I posted this thread. For the record, that makes Feneckus the first non-terrible player I've seen in 1200 games. No wonder you people complain about pugs if a team that could've easily finished the mission even without Feneckus there still counts as terrible.

There are different ways of quantifying success. I go mostly by medals first, then score, then finishing. But if Feneckus is getting that score then something is wrong with the team.

  I don't play on the PC but I often wonder what it's like to play with people like this? Everyone has a different style of play, and even different pacing. Just because someone can rush to a spawn and wipe it quickly does not mean that the other teammates are terrible dead weights. I've never seen anyone score that high in any of the games I have been in, but I used to play with someone who would stick to only one class and two weapon types (Geth Infiltrator, Scorpion and Harrier, surprise surprise!), rush to spawns, and spray the area before other teammates could contribute in any meaningful way. Doesn't mean we are relying on that one player. It does make me think that it also comes down to player incompatability. If you can finish a Gold in 15 minutes using a power class, more power to you.However,  I do hope it doesn't lead certain players to think that someone playing at around a 23 minute mark is somehow a scrub in comparison.

Agreed.

That scenario sounds like playing with you Jay.

[SectiplaveB4]

Drayce333 wrote...

Boog_89 wrote...

I play with great players too and I don't have a fangirl orgasm when they score higher than me. People need to take these so called bsn celebrities penises out of their mouths, its hilarious.

Seriously this crap is so annoying. Stupid how the mods let these circle jerkin threads go on for so long.

Are they really going to close a thread because it has gone off topic or turned into idle banter? Might as well shut half of this place down. I'm more surprised anyone cares enough to have such a negative reaction.

[Feneckus]

Stardusk wrote...

There are different ways of quantifying success. I go mostly by medals first, then score, then finishing. 

[lightswitch]

What I'm mostly curious about is how much time players at that level have poured into the game. Is it just that easy for you all? Or do you play exorbitant amounts? I had a similar experience to the OP's recently involving Lord Sirian, and to be honest it was so discouraging my play has taken a serious downturn (trying to play beyond my ability I think) and my interest in the game has dropped off considerably. Now I'm mostly playing Planetside 2.

[mpompeo27]

I don't ever have to worry about this because of players of that caliber do not exist on PS3. My highest gold score ever was about 183K with my Claymore toting Female Human Soldier, and I've only seen other people post higher scores on probably less than 5 occasions. If there are PS3 players going around topping 200K on a regular basis, they most certainly aren't playing gold PUGs.

[Dream]

lightswitch wrote...

What I'm mostly curious about is how much time players at that level have poured into the game. Is it just that easy for you all? Or do you play exorbitant amounts? I had a similar experience to the OP's recently involving Lord Sirian, and to be honest it was so discouraging my play has taken a serious downturn (trying to play beyond my ability I think) and my interest in the game has dropped off considerably. Now I'm mostly playing Planetside 2.

Rather than be discouraged, why not try to use that experience as inspiration to get better? No sarcasm intended.

[Stardusk]

Feneckus wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

There are different ways of quantifying success. I go mostly by medals first, then score, then finishing. 

Finishing is a given. Of course it is last. If a mission wipes then it is not successful. 

[Stardusk]

improvisionist wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

What I'm mostly curious about is how much time players at that level have poured into the game. Is it just that easy for you all? Or do you play exorbitant amounts? I had a similar experience to the OP's recently involving Lord Sirian, and to be honest it was so discouraging my play has taken a serious downturn (trying to play beyond my ability I think) and my interest in the game has dropped off considerably. Now I'm mostly playing Planetside 2.

Rather than be discouraged, why not try to use that experience as inspiration to get better? No sarcasm intended.

I can empathise with the guy. Try playing a game with Jay, you don't really get to do much (which is ok because you get free credits) but you can't get inspiration from that. Given his background, age and genetics there is no way I will ever, ever play like that. Not much inspiration in that.

[rlro]

Stardusk wrote...

improvisionist wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

What I'm mostly curious about is how much time players at that level have poured into the game. Is it just that easy for you all? Or do you play exorbitant amounts? I had a similar experience to the OP's recently involving Lord Sirian, and to be honest it was so discouraging my play has taken a serious downturn (trying to play beyond my ability I think) and my interest in the game has dropped off considerably. Now I'm mostly playing Planetside 2.

Rather than be discouraged, why not try to use that experience as inspiration to get better? No sarcasm intended.

I can empathise with the guy. Try playing a game with Jay, you don't really get to do much (which is ok because you get free credits) but you can't get inspiration from that. Given his background, age and genetics there is no way I will ever, ever play like that. Not much inspiration in that.

Well, I will never be able to play like Jay either (I'm even a bit older than you), but I find really enjoyable to play with him. The key is know *how* to play with him: when I'm playing I normally rush to the point where the first spawn will appear so I can finish the enemies quickly. When playing with Jay, that's not an option so I run alone to the second spawn point and thus I have a few seconds to clean it before he (or Feneckus, etc) arrives. 

Sure Jay and Feneckus still outscore me, but at the end I always make a pretty decent number of points and medals too.

[Chaoswind]

palmof40sorrows wrote...

manbearpig654 wrote...

palmof40sorrows wrote...

Ashen Earth popped into a lobby of mine the other day and I got geeked, as I was looking forward to the prospect of having to step up my game. It was Cerberus/Glacier/Gold. I was using a level 19 Krogan Sentinel with Scimitar (weapons banner challenge dontchaknow), had gear and consumables on. There was one other player there, don't remember what they were playing. I readied, as I'm fairly confident nowadays, and then was mildly bummed when he left.

Ah well, maybe I too can be scorecrushed someday.

Probably would have left too if I saw that set up.  Actually no, I'm an idiot that doesn't know when to quit.

Really, no one is a good enough player to play Gold with a Scimitar? Huh. I'm not amazing, but I know how to get through a Gold match with a sub-par weapon. 

**** that

Level 17 Paladin with a Scimitar x, gold match ended in 23 minutes and I scored second in score by 10K and I wasn't even hosting...

Scimitar isn't HORRIBLE, is just OUTclassED by the Piranha...

I have taken supposed horrible weapons to gold and done my share and more, is just a matter of picking the right classes/mods for those guns (and I don't mean GI or Destroyer).  and yes I got the 75 kills shotgun medal

Feneckus wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

There are different ways of quantifying success. I go mostly by medals first, then score, then finishing. 

[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]

So medals and score are more important that winning?  say what

I rate people by connection, if they don't make me lag to ovblivion they are great players because my score is a reflection of their connection and my ability to play isn't hampered:huh:

1. Connection
2. Winning (Full Extraction)
3. Time spend on match

That is how I rate people

Modifié par Chaoswind, 27 novembre 2012 - 11:34 .

[whateverman7]

Parallax Demon wrote...

Also read the complete thread, but most players say that score is an indication of being a good player. Not one of them said it's what determines a good player.
Feneckus himself said that killing things on the other side of the map during objective rounds is something he doesn't do, so I really don't understand your post.

at the time i posted, i read up through page 6-7, which was pretty much the whole thread...

as for understanding my post:  it wasnt in regards to feneckus or the original post itself...it was in response to reading the majority of the thread...and seeing posts talking about score being a determining factor if a player/team is good....not the only factor, but one of them....also, the fact so many on here deny score is important, but then they go outta their way to tell you want they score, use it as a determing factor if someone/team is good, etc....

[Caratinoid]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

He scored about 250,000 points in a gold pug.

This sounds kinda meaningless. Not even a screenshot?

[lightswitch]

improvisionist wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

What I'm mostly curious about is how much time players at that level have poured into the game. Is it just that easy for you all? Or do you play exorbitant amounts? I had a similar experience to the OP's recently involving Lord Sirian, and to be honest it was so discouraging my play has taken a serious downturn (trying to play beyond my ability I think) and my interest in the game has dropped off considerably. Now I'm mostly playing Planetside 2.

Rather than be discouraged, why not try to use that experience as inspiration to get better? No sarcasm intended.

Because honestly I have no idea what it takes to be that good. Is my aim just not good enough? Are my builds bad? Is my understanding of spawns not good enough? Am I missing something on how to manipulate the AI? Am I thinking about the game in the wrong way somehow?

Or am I really actually a luddite and I just never realized it?

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

lightswitch wrote...

improvisionist wrote...

lightswitch wrote...

What I'm mostly curious about is how much time players at that level have poured into the game. Is it just that easy for you all? Or do you play exorbitant amounts? I had a similar experience to the OP's recently involving Lord Sirian, and to be honest it was so discouraging my play has taken a serious downturn (trying to play beyond my ability I think) and my interest in the game has dropped off considerably. Now I'm mostly playing Planetside 2.

Rather than be discouraged, why not try to use that experience as inspiration to get better? No sarcasm intended.

Because honestly I have no idea what it takes to be that good. Is my aim just not good enough? Are my builds bad? Is my understanding of spawns not good enough? Am I missing something on how to manipulate the AI? Am I thinking about the game in the wrong way somehow?

Or am I really actually a luddite and I just never realized it?

Do, or do not. There is no try, young padawan.

[Jay_Hoxtatron]

Lord_Sirian wrote...

Here is the perfect example of why a big discrepancy in scores doesn't necessarily mean the people who scored low were "bad" players. On the surface it looks like these two were leechers, but they weren't. Sten and I didn't get a chance to see if they were bad players, because everything was dead before they could even try to kill them.

Sten and I used no rockets in this game, and it was a set map/enemy, so the difference in scores is actually even bigger than it looks. But were these people bad players? I do not think so.

Nade spam?

[Avalanche25]

I already consider that players consistently beating gold are good. Whether it is 20 minutes, 30 or 40, it doesn't matter. They have a good knowledge of the game etc.
Comparing the elite of the elite to the average 'good' player is not something to be done. Just because you didn't get the nobel prize/olympic gold in something, doesn't mean you're actually bad at it.

Btw, Stardusk, while I agree that the statistics show that you're at your best for gaming in your twenties, doesn't mean that your age and natural, genetic talent is everything there is. Some people might take that as offensive, as they have put a lot of work into it and want people to acknowledge they actually did that work. That's just something in general

[tfoltz]

It's clear there are individuals here who desperately want to be considered great like their virtual friends.

[kaileena_sands]

Stardusk wrote...

I can empathise with the guy. Try playing a game with Jay, you don't really get to do much (which is ok because you get free credits) but you can't get inspiration from that. Given his background, age and genetics there is no way I will ever, ever play like that. Not much inspiration in that.

Lol, I tried not posting in this topic but I gotta ask - is Jay a genetically engineered mutant from the future? 

Lord_Sirian wrote...

A variety of reasons for this, I won't really go into it, because I'm sure people will accuse me of being prejudiced like they did when I made the point that guys were better at gaming on average than girls. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

*sigh*

[Avalanche25]

Lord_Sirian wrote...
A variety of reasons for this, I won't really go into it, because I'm sure people will accuse me of being prejudiced like they did when I made the point that guys were better at gaming on average than girls. 

People get butthurt too quickly, who cares haha 

[Dilandau3000]

Caratinoid wrote...

Dilandau3000 wrote...

He scored about 250,000 points in a gold pug.

This sounds kinda meaningless. Not even a screenshot?

Sorry, but I didn't realize who it was until several hours later when I came across a post mentioning Feneckus here and remembered that's where I knew the name from.

Look, people, first of all, the "complaint" in my original post was tongue in cheek. I didn't mind playing with Feneckus, though it did make me feel rather like part of the scenery. I don't remember the exact specifics of the match (I played a bunch so I may be conflating a few different ones), but iirc I was playing a Phoenix Adept (which I had never used on gold before) because I finally decided to finish Biotic Mastery. It was kind of frustrating seeing a brute, throwing singularity, getting ready to smash and... oh, it's dead already, never mind. Despite these conditions, I still came second with about 80k iirc.

I don't remember dying very often, nor do I remember anyone else dying very often, and no one wiped in any wave. In my experience, that's a good team. A bad team, which are all too common, are the ones where I have 10 revives by wave 3.

Basically, my skill level at the moment is such that I can carry almost any pug if I'm playing a comfortable character, and do pretty well with almost any character provided there is at least one other person in the pug who isn't complete crap. My only weak spot are the collectors; I cannot solo the later waves with collectors, so 9 out of 10 times if collectors come up in a gold pug, we won't make it. This is compared to a few months ago, when if I was the top scorer in silver by about wave 5, it was a pretty good indication we weren't going to extract.

I'm 31 years old, since some people have been mentioning their ages as if it means something, and the last time I played a shooter before Mass Effect was the original Doom (and I mostly just used cheats on that). When I first played ME1, I died literally dozens of times in each mission, playing on casual difficulty (disarming the bombs on Eden Prime... that took me forever). When I started the MP, I thought Bronze was incredibly hard and Silver felt utterly impossible. So yeah, I think I've gotten pretty good by now, even if I'm obviously not in the same league as some of the other guys in this thread.

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:52 .