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[Applepie_Svk]

ste100 wrote...

Hope Bioware will learn from their mistakes.

This is what I heard since the release four times already...

Modifié par Applepie_Svk, 27 novembre 2012 - 08:01 .

[Jadebaby]

A Bethesda Fan wrote...

Isn't that sad?
I wanted to be negative and hate on Omega before we even knew the details.
And to think it is even worse that what I said about Omega before it was released is somewhat sad.

I don't want to hate. I'm SO sick of it. I'm a very positive person and optimistic in nature. I just don't feel anything when it comes to ME anymore. dlc like this only reinforces it. I was hoping for something good, I am disappoint again....

Jere85 wrote...

So Jade, any redeeming thoughts you can think off for puzzle theory? I don't recall anyone mentioning some fancy super tech or something that could help us one day through other DLC or something...

Granted, I didn't play it. From reviews and pros and cons, honestly?

strive wrote...

Well by 'retaking Omega' you secure the only known Relay that can travel to the galactic core.

This, Leviathan planted the seed giving us firepower, maybe Omega has just secured our footing a bit more in the galaxy, acting as the water for the plant.

Or a better analogy.

Leviathan was the hooking of the bait (we had good bait and chances of nabbing something look good).and Omega was casting out the line (sure, we haven't caught a break yet, but it's one step in the right direction).

[FlyinElk212]

Steelcan wrote...

Can you save Petrovsky?

Yes, you can! Regardless of previous choices made throughout the DLC, if you have enough Paragon/Renegade points going in.

Ziguehart wrote...

What is the new bonus power?

There's a few, actually: Lash, Flare, and possibly Biotic Protector (not sure about that last one).

Theobuomai wrote...

FlyinElk, if you or others agree, you should consider adding to the CONs an umimpressive/mundane soundtrack.

There's no buildup, no musical tension, and even at the end, I was surprised by the little to no musical score to support the emotion of the scene. Just my thought anyway

Oh definitely, Theo! In comparison to Overlord, LotSB, even Arrival to an extent, Omega didn't really have many memorable tracks.

AdmiralCheez wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Didn't
LoTSB have nothing to do with the plot, have no perm squad mates, last only two hours and introduce one of the most loathed character arcs in the Liara Shadow Broker arc? I'm sorry, the cons only seem to apply
since this is ME3.

......

EDIT: And LotSB made a lot of references to unique ME1/2 shenaigans that added to the immersion. It felt like it was connected to the greater whole, more like a bonus core mission as opposed to a seperate package.

Well said by the Cheez-meister, but a few more comments: LotSB DID have something to do with the plot, in that it explained Liara's new position in the galaxy as well as small tidbits to clarify the story, such as why Harkin defected in the beginning of the game.

Omega's only relevance to the plot is that it gave Shepard more resources in the fight against the Reapers. It'd be different if, say, Cerberus' methodology of Control in general CAME from Omega, because that'd show that Omega was the start of Cerberus' new philosophy and methods. However, this isn't the case, and there isn't any plot reveals that somehow ties back to any portion of Mass Effect 3's plot. I'm not being unfair to the DLC either--there simply isn't any new information on the storyline, characters, or motives of said characters that's brought up in the Omega DLC.

[FlyinElk212]

Nissun wrote...

Wait, Aria and Nyreen have a romance?

Wow, Bioware will go out of their way to make every woman in their galaxy a lesbian. I've read fanfictions with more restrain than that, ff's sake.

Heeeey nowww. If Bioware says the future= LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!, then the future= LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!!

In fact, can we get a DLC that changes Garrus' "ENEMIES EVERYWHERE" battlecry to "LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!!"

[N7 Shadow 90]

I thought the soundtrack was amazing!
It was funny when Aria started spinning during her speech!
Overall it was a great DLC.

[Jadebaby]

N7 Shadow 90 wrote...

I thought the soundtrack was amazing!
It was funny when Aria started spinning during her speech!
Overall it was a great DLC.

This is the first post I've seen in a total of 5 hours surfing the bsn that said the dlc was anything greater than average or good.

hmph.

[FlyinElk212]

Holy shnut, a LOT of Bioware Legends coming into my forum. I feel so honored!

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Jere85 wrote...

So Jade, any redeeming thoughts you can think off for puzzle theory? I don't recall anyone mentioning some fancy super tech or something that could help us one day through other DLC or something...

strive wrote...

Well by 'retaking Omega' you secure the only known Relay that can travel to the galactic core.

This, Leviathan planted the seed giving us firepower, maybe Omega has just secured our footing a bit more in the galaxy, acting as the water for the plant.

Or a better analogy.

Leviathan was the hooking of the bait (we had good bait and chances of nabbing something look good).and Omega was casting out the line (sure, we haven't caught a break yet, but it's one step in the right direction).

Unfortunately, as Jade already put it, the Omega DLC can only loosely support Puzzle Theory. Whereas Leviathan provided a direct reason as to why the Starchild is wrong, and why a Refusal of the ending options could be successful, Omega does not. You'd have to stretch to come up w/ a connection.

[AresKeith]

At the moment I prefer my Palaven DLC

[MassEffecter132]

Did anyone encounter an Aria romance?

[Asch Lavigne]

MassEffecter132 wrote...

Did anyone encounter an Aria romance?

Its been repeatedly said for a while now that there is none.

[FlyinElk212]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

MassEffecter132 wrote...

Did anyone encounter an Aria romance?

Its been repeatedly said for a while now that there is none.

However, there are rumors to an Aria Kiss floating out there right now. I believe it's possible if you take a Renegade path in Aria's evolution (basically pick the bottom option each time you speak to her, take Renegade interrupts). Testing it soon.

Modifié par FlyinElk212, 27 novembre 2012 - 08:36 .

[JBPBRC]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

-Gameplay limitation very apparent through dialogue (ex. Aria stating, "I have issues with some of the crew on your ship" being the excuse for why no squadmates are present)

Which really means it boils down to her not liking either Vega, EDI or Liara. Everyone else could be dead (or not purchased in Javik's case) you see. It must be one of these three. Or maybe she secretly hates Traynor or Joker or (insert random Normandy crewmember here) despite never officially meeting them.

Overall a rather silly reason to not bring squadmates.

[MassEffecter132]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Asch Lavigne wrote...

MassEffecter132 wrote...

Did anyone encounter an Aria romance?

Its been repeatedly said for a while now that there is none.

However, there are rumors to an Aria Kiss floating out there right now. I believe it's possible if you take a Renegade path in Aria's evolution (basically pick the bottom option each time you speak to her, take Renegade interrupts). Testing it soon.

Thats what I meant 

[ioannisdenton]

Me3 really TRIES to fail harder and harder.
WHAT IS WRONG with you bioware Mass Effect team??
IF this DLC was any good then people WOULD be happy. instead all i see is dissapointment in here and in the No spoilers section.
Some person from your team is simply doing it wrong.
What is wrong with you??
This will be the first bioware DLC i will reject.
I bought the 2 DLCS for DA2 a month ago and they were fantastic!!!
Dragon age team really nailed it !!!
Instead Me3 DLC falls short. Every time!
I forsee bioware going down in a couple of years and by down i mean "Closing".
We do not want FIGHTS an BIOTIC BOOM BOOM explotions ALL the fricking time.We are not horny Teenagers !
We want Story atmosphere and characters and DIALOGUE FOR GODS SAKE!!!!
Mass Effect team you are becoming VERY dissapointing

[Bourne Endeavor]

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Nissun wrote...

Wait, Aria and Nyreen have a romance?

Wow, Bioware will go out of their way to make every woman in their galaxy a lesbian. I've read fanfictions with more restrain than that, ff's sake.

Heeeey nowww. If Bioware says the future= LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!, then the future= LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!!

In fact, can we get a DLC that changes Garrus' "ENEMIES EVERYWHERE" battlecry to "LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!!"

Not a DLC but hey, what I can work with.

[FlyinElk212]

JBPBRC wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

-Gameplay limitation very apparent through dialogue (ex. Aria stating, "I have issues with some of the crew on your ship" being the excuse for why no squadmates are present)

Which really means it boils down to her not liking either Vega, EDI or Liara. Everyone else could be dead (or not purchased in Javik's case) you see. It must be one of these three. Or maybe she secretly hates Traynor or Joker or (insert random Normandy crewmember here) despite never officially meeting them.

Overall a rather silly reason to not bring squadmates.

Agreed. What I can't comprehend is Bioware's lack of creativity at times. How hard would it have been to have Aria be like, "I want your squadmates to bolster other squads in my fleet. You, however, will come with me."

Then later in the DLC have an investigate option while speaking to Aria: "How are the other members of my squad on the Normandy holding out?" To which Aria will have 7 replies that will trigger depending on whether or not they're currently part of your crew:

"Better than I expected, Shepard. I've got to admit, you've got an eye for talent."
"Liara's biotics single-handedly saved the Blue Suns Delta unit. Looks like she's picked up a few tricks or two during her stint as an information broker."
"Eclipse Alpha Squad's still around thanks to the Sniper Rifle of that Turian of yours, Garrus...or should I say Archangel. Don't worry. His secret's safe with me."
"I thought that Kaidan Alenko of yours was just another one of your goody-two-shoe Alliance types, but he holds his own in a fight. He's leading a Blue Suns unit back to this base as we speak."

WOULD THAT HAVE BEEN SO HARD?!!!!1123125

[GreyLycanTrope]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...
Not a DLC but hey, what I can work with.

I approve.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 27 novembre 2012 - 08:54 .

[FlyinElk212]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

FlyinElk212 wrote...

Nissun wrote...

Wait, Aria and Nyreen have a romance?

Wow, Bioware will go out of their way to make every woman in their galaxy a lesbian. I've read fanfictions with more restrain than that, ff's sake.

Heeeey nowww. If Bioware says the future= LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!, then the future= LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!!

In fact, can we get a DLC that changes Garrus' "ENEMIES EVERYWHERE" battlecry to "LESBIANS EVERYWHERE!!"

Not a DLC but hey, what I can work with.

BAHAHAHA YES! NEW DESKTOP BACKGROUND, FOUND!

[Xellith]

All I see is a few saying its okay. Mostly disappointment. And I get that post from chris priestley in my mind saying "Omega is strong". Made me lulz.

Modifié par Xellith, 27 novembre 2012 - 08:57 .

[Brovikk Rasputin]

No boss fights should be moved to pros.

[Xellith]

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

No boss fights should be moved to pros.

I dont believe that would be accurate.  No boss fight being good or bad is subjective.  It should either be removed off the list or added to a neutral "facts only" section.

Modifié par Xellith, 27 novembre 2012 - 08:59 .

[RiouHotaru]

[quote]FlyinElk212 wrote...
-Divorced from the main plot entirely, providing no further insight to ME3's overall story
[/quote]
Uhhh...why should it?  You knew going in it wasn't going to provide any "further insight" (although at this point the only thing we really don't know anything about was the Crucible).  And people were practically begging for an Omega DLC.  Why in the world now that you have it, are you complaining it doesn't "provide further insight?"
[quote]
-Uninspired main antagonist
[/quote]
Disagree utterly.  He had great set-up in the comic, and his portrayal in Omega was spot-on.  It's nice to see someone who can be an antagonist without being TIM or a Reaper.
[quote]
-No squadmates present throughout DLC
[/quote]
But you knew this going in.  Again, your complaint is a self-fullfilling prophecy.  You knew right from the start your squad-mates wouldn't be present.
[quote]
-Unintriguing storyline
[/quote]
It's a DLC about taking back Omega from Cerberus, which is what people were demanding for a while.  Again, amusing hypocrisy to see that folks wanted something, and then complain when they get it.
[quote]
-Little to no variables in terms of previous choices made throughout trilogy
[/quote]
I don't see the problem here.  There were very few things besides stuff like Samara or Archangel, and this is mostly irrelevant as a complaint.  Would a single throwaway line referencing meeting Aria earlier really have changed anything?
[quote]
-Gameplay limitation very apparent through dialogue (ex. Aria stating, "I have issues with some of the crew on your ship" being the excuse for why no squadmates are present)
[/quote]
Don't see the problem.  Again, it was clear we weren't taking other squaddies.  You can always tell Aria "No" if you don't like it.  This is again, a nitpick.  It's not a gameplay limitation, it's a story reason.
[quote]
-The Familiar ME2 locales come in the mission far too late
[/quote]
More nitpick.
[quote]
No "boss fights" like in Lair of the Shadow Broker
[/quote]
We don't need boss fights.  People liked Tela Vasir because it was something interesting, sure.  But then Kai Leng's fight get bombed on.  Also again, who would've been the boss?  There wasn't anyone in the Invasion storyline who could've been a "boss"  We didn't need one.
[quote]
-No cameos from any past squadmates
[/quote]
Like who exactly?  At this point all past squaddies have been accounted for in ME3.  Why would they suddenly appear on Omega?
[quote]
-Repetitive, predictable combat
[/quote]
...Really?  I'm just going to disregard that.  You mention in the pros that the use of MP-style mechanics made combat interesting, then say combat was boring and predictable.  Contradictory much?  Not to mention this is hardly a con.  This would be like saying an FF-game DLC having random encounters is a bad thing.
[quote]
-Omega is not a hub, disappears after mission is over
[/quote]
Not a con, there was no guarantee it would become an additional hub, and considering we already HAVE a hub (Citadel) why did we need a second?
[quote]
-Illusion of choice apparent as every choice in the DLC yields the same outcome
[/quote]
...As opposed to what?  Illusion of choice is apparent in any WRPG.
[quote]
-No new squad members after mission as Nyreen and Aria are only temporary squadmates
[/quote]
Once again, irrelevant.  It's been known well in advance neither would be a squadmate, and there's even a good mechanical reason why neither could be a squadmate.  Does anyone actually pay attention to the board?
[quote]
-Graphical issues during some important cutscenes
[/quote]
Didn't happen to me, so this is subjective.  I wouldn't call it a 'con' so much as an annoyance.
[quote]
-Soundtracks subpar in comparison to previous DLCs
[/quote]
Again, subjective.  THis really should be "Omega Opinions" rather than "Pros and Cons" since the latter implies statements of fact.

The cons only outweigh the pros because you picked small, rather irrelevant issues as "cons", some of which everyone KNEW well in advance.

Modifié par RiouHotaru, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:00 .

[marcelo caldas]

Asch Lavigne wrote...

MassEffecter132 wrote...

Did anyone encounter an Aria romance?

Its been repeatedly said for a while now that there is none.

BW sucks dick

[tettenjager]

I did like the large open vista's like the skyline and the eezo mines. Think that counts as a pro?

[FlyinElk212]

Xellith wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

No boss fights should be moved to pros.

I dont believe that would be accurate.  No boss fight being good or bad is subjective.  It should either be removed off the list or added to a neutral "facts only" section.

I agree that "no boss fights" is neither inherently good nor bad, however, you can't sit there and tell me that if a boss fight were included that it'd be a bad thing. Unless the boss is contrived, or comes out of nowhere in terms of story, then I see no downside to a bossfight.

I hate how "too videogame-y" is becoming a negative term.