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jsamlaw wrote...
You pay $15 (probably more with food) for a 2 hour movie. At least you can replay this DLC across multiple characters.
Or, if you prefer, don't buy it at all.

Uh? No?  Last time I went to a movie it was $8. And I never buy food at movie theatres, I just fill up before I go.  No matter how hungry I get, I will never be reduced to the indignity of paying $6 for a bucket of cold popcorn. It's a matter of principle, not money.

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jsamlaw wrote...

You pay $15 (probably more with food) for a 2 hour movie. At least you can replay this DLC across multiple characters.

Or, if you prefer, don't buy it at all.


But that's how aggressive capitalism starts, if we keep trying to justify the cost to ourselves.
It's only $15, sure. Just like that last cream cake is just one more cream cake, or just like in 1930, it was just one angry German. But before you know it, it's $30, you're 40st and you have a world war on your hands.

(Happy to affirm Godwin's Law)

Modifié par Rosstoration, 27 novembre 2012 - 07:42 .


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BlueDemonX wrote...

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

will you stop complaining and enjoy? if you complain so much will you ever have time to actually enjoy this wonderful world? i say explore more , and bish about it less :)


And that´s the kind of attitude that will never let big companies take a step back and rethink their concepts. I mean, come on, people.


Nice to meet u, Zuzu. But blue demon has a point and is the same attitude that some Gaming Journalists allow themselves to slander gamers as "entitled" and "whiners".

Sometimes Complianing is a way (not just THE way) is to give feedback on what we want or don't want in the next DLC/game

The biggest improvement needed in my opinion are the romances and the war assets

Modifié par bigmass41, 27 novembre 2012 - 07:49 .


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My way of protesting this crime is by not buying the DLC until it is on sale.

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Things will never change as long as people rush to buy the newest dlc for whatever price, and find ways to rationalize it to themselves. Just look at xbox live for example, arcade games were 400, then 800, now 1200-1600, why? Because people will continue to buy them no matter the price, and these big companies exploit that fact to continually raise prices, without raising the bar for quality and depth along with the price.

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If hours per dollar is your metric for how good something is, play an MMO.

Omega felt worth the money to me. It wasn't as epic as the Tuchakana arc or the Suicide mission, but all and all I enjoyed it very much and don't regret my purchase slightly.

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Well and really at 2.5 hours I'm not sure $7.50 is an exorbitant price to pay for entertainment - concerts, movies, sporting events all break that barrier. Given that I've got at least 2 Sheps I'm looking at replay for around 5 hours so I'm at $3 per hour.

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Scottus4 wrote...
If hours per dollar is your metric for how good something is, play an MMO.
Omega felt worth the money to me. It wasn't as epic as the Tuchakana arc or the Suicide mission, but all and all I enjoyed it very much and don't regret my purchase slightly.

I've played Blacklight Retribution for 115 hours, and it was free.

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Zuzu - you are outnumbered worse than a team of N7 level 1's facing Condor Collectors Platinum.

Recognize.

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I personally think the price is a little on the high side, but not extortion by any means. The weapons, costume packs, however, are ripoff.

As I mention before, people feel that it is expensive as ME games are beefy, compare to 99% of the games out there. Some full games have like 6-8 hours of game time, & they charge full retail price.

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The extra five dollars goes towards Carrie Anne Moss's paycheck.

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Only three hours? I'll wait until it goes on sale.

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Wonderllama4 wrote...

Only three hours? I'll wait until it goes on sale.

When does DLC ever go on sale?

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Zuzu Mumu wrote...

will you stop complaining and enjoy? if you complain so much will you ever have time to actually enjoy this wonderful world? i say explore more , and bish about it less :)


I don't like to complain, in fact I am one of the few people who defended the original endings (check my thread history if you don't believe). The reason I made this thread is because the right amount of criticism and disagreement can often lead to good things. I think my post was well reasoned without resorting to any kind of lame complaints. It's not unreasonable to be dissapointed in a price increase when we aren't getting anything more to make up for it. And it's not even a small price increase, it's a 50% increase 100%[(15-10)/10] = 50%. That is an enourmous increase, and should be accounted for. The question that needs asking is that is this DLC really 50% more valuable than those that were $10? I respect your optimism, but a smart optimist must understand that the right amount of disagreement can have positive consequences.

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Atakuma wrote...
When does DLC ever go on sale?


On PC - never ever, as far as I can tell.

Modifié par Domecoming, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:01 .


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Sad to see all the bio.d.r.o.n.e.s justifying the 15$ price tag for 2-3 hours nothing.

Modifié par Drayce333, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:03 .


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DLC rarely ever goes on sale. Too rare and spontaneous to anticipate, at least my experience on PSN.

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terdferguson123 wrote...

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

will you stop complaining and enjoy? if you complain so much will you ever have time to actually enjoy this wonderful world? i say explore more , and bish about it less :)


I don't like to complain, in fact I am one of the few people who defended the original endings (check my thread history if you don't believe). The reason I made this thread is because the right amount of criticism and disagreement can often lead to good things. I think my post was well reasoned without resorting to any kind of lame complaints. It's not unreasonable to be dissapointed in a price increase when we aren't getting anything more to make up for it. And it's not even a small price increase, it's a 50% increase 100%[(15-10)/10] = 50%. That is an enourmous increase, and should be accounted for. The question that needs asking is that is this DLC really 50% more valuable than those that were $10? I respect your optimism, but a smart optimist must understand that the right amount of disagreement can have positive consequences.


Remember only a couple of years ago, when you could pay $9.99 for something like Undead Nightmare (Red Dead Redemption) and get 10-12 hours of gameplay?

As I mentioned in a different thread, the price is a disservice to the developers who've worked very hard on this, because a lot of people are going to be playing it, and judging it against its price, instead of just enjoying it. This could marr the experience for the gamer.

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15 dolars is a standard price for many dlcs around different platforms and different games, that Bioware used to charge a bit less for some previous ones could be a problem for some, I'd argue if it's really a cost issue, more like butthurt fans who used to pay less and now they have to shell out a few bucks more.In my devaluated country 15 sollars represents more money than it does to americans and canadians I guess, and thanks to this Origin I get charged in Euros because they can't or won't change that issue which makes the game even more expensive.Yet you don't see me whining about that...they set the price...you choose to buy it or not...simple.
In these forums people just come to complain...for the sake of complaining. It's like they are thinking and waiting on what to **** about next...people with the lack of moving forward end up being dense in the end.Like this post

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jakal66 wrote...

people with the lack of moving forward end up being dense in the end.Like this post


I'm not sure that I understand what this sentence is supposed to mean. Perhaps English is not your main language and that is where the confusion is coming from. But I think what you are trying to say is that my post shows me as someone who is afraid of change? I will say, that this is not true in the slighest. I fully understand how the world changes and I need to change with it, and I have no problem with that (In fact I recently went back to school and changed my entire career path due to the changing jobs market in the US). However, I don't think it's normal to just accept a 50% price increase when we clearly are getting nothing more out of it. There is accepting change when it is well reasoned, and there is accepting change when it is not well reasoned. It's usually smarter to try and respect the former over the latter.

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jakal66 wrote...

15 dolars is a standard price for many dlcs around different platforms and different games, that Bioware used to charge a bit less for some previous ones could be a problem for some, I'd argue if it's really a cost issue, more like butthurt fans who used to pay less and now they have to shell out a few bucks more.In my devaluated country 15 sollars represents more money than it does to americans and canadians I guess, and thanks to this Origin I get charged in Euros because they can't or won't change that issue which makes the game even more expensive.Yet you don't see me whining about that...they set the price...you choose to buy it or not...simple.
In these forums people just come to complain...for the sake of complaining. It's like they are thinking and waiting on what to **** about next...people with the lack of moving forward end up being dense in the end.Like this post


It's not whining or complaining - it's called feedback. The OP stated his grievance, then laid out his reasoning for the grievance, and did so without resorting to insults, like calling Bioware "lazy." Value is a product of perception, and in this case, the OP felt that the value wasn't up to par with his expectations. A smart business takes this kind of feedback into consideration for their market analysis.

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jakal66 wrote...

15 dolars is a standard price for many dlcs around different platforms and different games, that Bioware used to charge a bit less for some previous ones could be a problem for some, I'd argue if it's really a cost issue, more like butthurt fans who used to pay less and now they have to shell out a few bucks more.In my devaluated country 15 sollars represents more money than it does to americans and canadians I guess, and thanks to this Origin I get charged in Euros because they can't or won't change that issue which makes the game even more expensive.Yet you don't see me whining about that...they set the price...you choose to buy it or not...simple.
In these forums people just come to complain...for the sake of complaining. It's like they are thinking and waiting on what to **** about next...people with the lack of moving forward end up being dense in the end.Like this post

Having to pay more for a product without getting anything more in return, is generally not something people are happy with. It's especialy dissatisfiying when we were lead to believe that said product would be much more than it ended up being.

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It's just 15$, don't like it don't buy it.

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Eterna5 wrote...

It's just 15$, don't like it don't buy it.


I understand that it's optional. But as a fan of the series, why shouldn't I wonder what is causing the massive price increase when I see no foreseeable reason for it? It's cause for concern because I do not want to have to regularly face price increases when one is not warranted.

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It may be the post-Steam-autumn-sale-high talking, but when I saw the $15 price tag for Omega, I laughed. No way am I going to shell out that much after playing Leviathan (and struggling to finish it because I found it so boring).

BioWare points would have to go on sale, big-time, for me to even consider it.

Modifié par Atalanta, 27 novembre 2012 - 09:49 .