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[TweedleDee66]

^ and Shivering Isles was $20 not $30.

Sorry had to get that in before I called it a day.

Hopefully this wont turn into a Bethesda vs EA/BioWare war in here.


** figures I'd get the top posting on the next page instead of below the last posting..... Its been one of those days.

Modifié par TweedleDee66, 29 novembre 2012 - 07:24 .

[LinksOcarina]

TweedleDee66 wrote...

^ and Shivering Isles was $20 not $30.

Sorry had to get that in before I called it a day.

Hopefully this wont turn into a Bethesda vs EA/BioWare war in here.

My bad, I swore it was $30 when it came out. 

[Solmanian]

hmm,15$ is alot for content DLC with a handfull of stages. Normal pricing should be:
1-2$ appearence pack
4-8$ weapons pack
5-10$ mission pack
15-30$ for expansions

price is suppose to be relative to how much it effects gameplay. does omega realy give 50% more content than leviathan?

[BlacJAC74]

Han Shot First wrote...

TES is highly overrated IMO.

Bethesda worlds are beautiful to look at but populated by dull and lifeless NPCs. After awhile I tend to get bored with Bethesda games and it becomes a chore to finish them, because after I've started to get bored with the game world there isn't enough to the characters or story to keep driving me forward.

I think Bioware does more interesting RPGs than Bethesda in that the focus is more on the characters and story than the world itself. The only company that challenges Bioware in that regard IMO, is CD Projekt RED. Alpha Protocol (Obsidian) also had a fantastic story and characters, though was brought down a bit by poor gameplay. And for games where choices actually matter, it is hard to trump The Witcher 2 or Alpha Protocol.

But Bethesda? Meh.

I've always said if a game was to be released that Obsidian wrote the story, Beth created the world,  BioWare implemented the characters, gearbox did the content and EA gave us their Frostbite 2 engine, we'd be sorted.

[sorentoft]

They're just milking the franchise.

[AlanC9]

TweedleDee66 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
True, but does ME3 even have a long term? Maybe they're only going to do one more DLC anyway, and losing a few sales by raising prices on the last two DLCs is a rational tradeoff. They can always cut prices later in some sort of big DLC slae and pick up some of the players who would buy Omega at $10 but won't buy it at $15

Except loosing potential customers (new and current) to these sales due to the higher price is rather a stupid risk considering this game is out for the Wii U now. That doesn’t even add in the probable loss of customers already who have had it with EA/BioWare and their lackluster games they are making now.

I doubt that Wii U sales and DLC penetration will be big enough to make an impact on a DLC pricing decision.

And if you've had enough of EA/Bioware, do DLC prices matter? And if Omega costs too much, will that have anything at all to do with your decision to buy future full games? Some people act all butthurt about this, but I don't really believe them.

The only long term ME3 has is the multiplayer game. At least they cant screw that up to much more.

Sure. But SP DLC prices don't have anything to do with that. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 29 novembre 2012 - 09:00 .

[Han Shot First]

BlacJAC74 wrote...

Han Shot First wrote...

TES is highly overrated IMO.

Bethesda worlds are beautiful to look at but populated by dull and lifeless NPCs. After awhile I tend to get bored with Bethesda games and it becomes a chore to finish them, because after I've started to get bored with the game world there isn't enough to the characters or story to keep driving me forward.

I think Bioware does more interesting RPGs than Bethesda in that the focus is more on the characters and story than the world itself. The only company that challenges Bioware in that regard IMO, is CD Projekt RED. Alpha Protocol (Obsidian) also had a fantastic story and characters, though was brought down a bit by poor gameplay. And for games where choices actually matter, it is hard to trump The Witcher 2 or Alpha Protocol.

But Bethesda? Meh.

I've always said if a game was to be released that Obsidian wrote the story, Beth created the world,  BioWare implemented the characters, gearbox did the content and EA gave us their Frostbite 2 engine, we'd be sorted.

One can dream...

[rapscallioness]

I hate to even say this, but I really wouldn't mind paying more money for the main game if it meant an end to this DLC turnstyle.

I like some new content after maybe 6 months, but the smell of desperation on vid game companies is overpowering. I'm all for game dev co.s making money. I want them to succeed. I mean, if they put out good product. I don't like seeing game devs go outta biz cuz it's just so expensive to maintain.

In the States new games are $60.00. It seems it's been that price for a long while. I haven't really paid attention, but that's the way it seems. I wouldn't mind paying $80.00 for a nice meaty game. No funny business. No areas in the game that are locked out, and all that.

Maybe it's time for the cap to be lifted a bit. Games are more expensive to make, and gamers expect more from their games.

( I still can't believe I just offered that.Lol.)

[Eterna]

TheProtheans wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...


And if you want to make an appropriate analogy, previous DLC for Elder Scrolls games has always been in the  $5-$10 dollar range, and has jumped to $20 all of a sudden. The amount of new content added is pretty much the same in some respects.

Nope I don't recall Shivering isles being $5 - $10.
Expansions don't cost $5 - $10 new.

I also want to ask, did you play Dawnguard at all? Do you also know if it did sell more than a Mass Effect DLC? Are there numbers out there you can show me? Also, are the numbers comperable to the audiences of both games, which are vastly different in both size and taste? 

I played Dawnguard.
I know it sold more than a Mass effect DLC, only charts as they don't release figures.
Dawnguard is a top seller on Steam and ahead of all the DLC including free multiplayer Mass effect DLC(which is the top mass effect DLC) on xbox live.

I can't really compare them, TES products are something special.

It's simply because the Elder scrolls has a larger audience than Mass effect does. This has always been the case. I don't think anyone will ever expect Mass effect dlc to outsell elder scrolls products. 

[2484Stryker]

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

BlueDemonX wrote...

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

will you stop complaining and enjoy? if you complain so much will you ever have time to actually enjoy this wonderful world? i say explore more , and bish about it less

And that´s the kind of attitude that will never let big companies take a step back and rethink their concepts. I mean, come on, people.

Just because they rethinked an entire game ending for they;re fanbase doesn't give you any right to constantly nag and continue with this negative attitude at eveything they do ok? the company does not need to take a step back and they do not need to rethink anything for you. Or have you forgotten how it is to play a game and have fun doing it? I think mass effect gave you so much freedom of choice in game that you somehow think that you have the right or you are entitled to have a say in what Bioware does. Well you are dead wrong about it. You do not have any say in what's going on and you might as well stop nagging.
I agree ME3 ending wasnt what i expected or what i would have wanted in any of the 9 hells. BUT it is not my choice or my position to go constanly open my mouth about the game as if i would be in any way shape or form related to the game or creating any of it. That being said  ,you are just a fanbase , not the creators of ME , your thoughts as well as mine mean little to nothing.

Umm what?  Excuse me?  So your position is that since people have complained about the ending, that they can't complain or discuss anything else negative about BioWare?  That's just plain ridiculous and akin to saying "you can only ding me on one mistake, and after that, I'm free and clear!"

If BioWare makes poor decisions, it is our right as customers to point them out, so long we keep it civil and restrained (none of that personal attack cr*p).

[themark443]

Between the DLC and ME1 coming to the PSN, I'll take ME1 easily...haven't played it in ages. And its going to cost the same as the Omega DLC.

[Walhorin]

Not shelling out 15$ for a DLC... if it had been an expansion then sure. If it had been 5$ then sure.

Heck I payed 15$ for Assassins Creed 3 and that just launched a week or so ago...so why should I pay 15$ for something that offers me only like 3 hours extra in a game that I finished months ago...

again, if you want to let me pay 15$ then make expansions and stop with the dlc crap.

Modifié par Walhorin, 30 novembre 2012 - 07:59 .

[BlacJAC74]

Walhorin wrote...

Not shelling out 15$ for a DLC... if it had been an expansion then sure. If it had been 5$ then sure.

Heck I payed 15$ for Assassins Creed 3 and that just launched a week or so ago...so why should I pay 15$ for something that offers me only like 3 hours extra in a game that I finished months ago...

again, if you want to let me pay 15$ then make expansions and stop with the dlc crap.

This is the crux of the problem for me.  Exactly this. The price suggests it's a mere foot up the backside away from being a fully blown expansion, the reality is, it's nothing but a bog standard piece of dlc.

I paid the same price for the DA expansion two weeks after its release.

Modifié par BlacJAC74, 30 novembre 2012 - 09:53 .

[NoReapers]

Edited: Not sure if spoilering too much. Precaution.

Modifié par Kamiloni, 30 novembre 2012 - 12:35 .

[Corvus Black]

sorentoft wrote...

They're just milking the franchise.

this

[LinksOcarina]

Corvus Black wrote...

sorentoft wrote...

They're just milking the franchise.

this

If they were Mass Effect 3 would be in two parts, like Kill Bill. 

[Tomeran]

The "gameplay time and money" math is a bit off, but I'll agree the pricetag on this DLC was heavy.
It is definetly one of the ME dlcs that has the least story compared to how much shooting you do, with the possible exception of pinnacle station.

I probably burned 3-4 hours on this, maybe 5 since I didnt exactly time it. That was on insanity and after searching everything and doing everything. That's a bit short, but it isnt VERY short.
It is short under the price tag and I'd expect more value for my money, but frankly I've experienced worse. Not gonna go in an uproar over the dlc because in the end it was entertaining, even if it was, imo, way too combat heavy and not enough story.

[Novate]

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

BlueDemonX wrote...

Zuzu Mumu wrote...

will you stop complaining and enjoy? if you complain so much will you ever have time to actually enjoy this wonderful world? i say explore more , and bish about it less

And that´s the kind of attitude that will never let big companies take a step back and rethink their concepts. I mean, come on, people.

Just because they rethinked an entire game ending for they;re fanbase doesn't give you any right to constantly nag and continue with this negative attitude at eveything they do ok? the company does not need to take a step back and they do not need to rethink anything for you. Or have you forgotten how it is to play a game and have fun doing it? I think mass effect gave you so much freedom of choice in game that you somehow think that you have the right or you are entitled to have a say in what Bioware does. Well you are dead wrong about it. You do not have any say in what's going on and you might as well stop nagging.
I agree ME3 ending wasnt what i expected or what i would have wanted in any of the 9 hells. BUT it is not my choice or my position to go constanly open my mouth about the game as if i would be in any way shape or form related to the game or creating any of it. That being said  ,you are just a fanbase , not the creators of ME , your thoughts as well as mine mean little to nothing.

I agree with you, nothing will ever change, either you love it or hate it, nothing will ever change. But then why in the World there are Protests. If the Big Companies can set the rules, then why even protest against them. Smoking kills, but guess what, if no one stood up and told the world to stand against the Tobacco companies, then we will still be living in an world of smoke and cancer. 

We as the people have to protect ourselves, and sure there are outrageous protests, and stupid protests. But they are just expressing their opinion. 

You can't say that DLC will never go up in price, guess what, just look at the forums from a couple years ago, there was hundreds of posts against DLC pricing going up to $10, it was the transition from Expansions to Episode DLC . People was arguing that DLC will never dominate and eliminate Expansions, and that their only appeal is their low price of less than $3 even $1 sometimes. 

A couple years went by, then you get an $15 DLC which hasn't increase in scale or quality. The only ones getting hurt is the Consumer, The companies don't have to care, because of people like you which is apparently the Majority, don't care to stand up against them. And soon we will be asked to pay $20 then $25 then $60 for DLC. 

Corporations only cared about their bottom line, if it increases, its good practice, if it goes down, changes are made. You and everyone that bought the DLC increased their bottom line, so regardless of reputation, It is Good practice to increase DLC prices. 

[Novate]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Corvus Black wrote...

sorentoft wrote...

They're just milking the franchise.

this

If they were Mass Effect 3 would be in two parts, like Kill Bill. 

I am sorry but you already got Mass Effect 3A : Leviathan and Mass Effect 3B : Omega , there are still 24 Alphabet left. So unlike Kill Bill, and Twilight 3 or Harry Potter, its gonna be more than 2 parts. It will be milked till its dried.

[wrdnshprd]

Domecoming wrote...

Atakuma wrote...
When does DLC ever go on sale?

On PC - never ever, as far as I can tell.

steam?  ive seen dlc get reduced by 75% at times.

but oh wait.. ME3 is on origin :/

[Delta095]

"Dear Burt Reynolds"

"That's not my name."

"Sigh, okay. Turd Ferguson"

Love you for that, OP.

[Necrotron]

Jessica Merizan wrote...

That kind of wording/tone makes it sound like if you disagree, you are wrong or stupid or not a fan etc.

Please keep this in mind, not just for this thread, but for all discussions on BSN.

Thank you.  Everyone deserves the right to their own opinion without being called names.

[AlexMBrennan]

DLC price tag is more about what Bioware thinks they can get away with than anything else.
OP apparently bought the DLC, so you just demonstrated that 15$ is the right price to charge.

[AlanC9]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

DLC price tag is more about what Bioware thinks they can get away with than anything else.

Like pretty much every price ever, right?

[AlexMBrennan]

Like pretty much every price ever, right?

Usually there's competition to worry about though