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[slimshedim]

LinksOcarina wrote...

jkflipflopDAO wrote...

I miss the old Bioware D:

They didn't go anywhere...they just grew up. 

And became arrogant, blind and ignorant fools.

[zaku257]

I agree, her poor fate is a result or poor writing...
Based on my experience, those Adjuants(Or whatever they are) are just piece of joke...
Nyreen can just keep dodging them, or delay them with those nades rather than blowing herself up...
The "Blow myself up" just don't make sense...
Anyway crap writing is always crap, too hard for someone to change

[PanzerGr3nadier]

zaku257 wrote...

I agree, her poor fate is a result or poor writing...
Based on my experience, those Adjuants(Or whatever they are) are just piece of joke...
Nyreen can just keep dodging them, or delay them with those nades rather than blowing herself up...
The "Blow myself up" just don't make sense...
Anyway crap writing is always crap, too hard for someone to change

Yup, If you played your cards right, Grunt will make it from his suicidal leap of faith... But you can't save Nyreen because its railroaded??

I'm datamining the **** out of this dlc.

[InvincibleHero]

zaku257 wrote...

I agree, her poor fate is a result or poor writing...
Based on my experience, those Adjuants(Or whatever they are) are just piece of joke...
Nyreen can just keep dodging them, or delay them with those nades rather than blowing herself up...
The "Blow myself up" just don't make sense...
Anyway crap writing is always crap, too hard for someone to change

Oh come on people are calling writing poor (this kinder than most say) because it is not what they wanted. If she lived suddenly, it'd be a masterpiece that sits on the shelf with Shakespeare. Ohh please. Nyreen served the purpose for BW creating her not you. Her story is what they want to tell period. Fine, you don't like it, but you cannot base criticsm of quality based on an undesired outcome by one user.

It sucks I couldn't save Romeo and Juliet either that writing is crap. Yeah logic does not hold for your premise at all. ET should have stayed damn that Spielberg is a terrible director. No doesn't work for movies either.

What is it with people that don't get their way and spewing vehemence because of it. In kids we call this spoiled brats in adults it smack of entitlement since they should know and behave better.

[Alien Number Six]

I thought she was awesome. At the end of her life she mastered her fear and saved quite a few people. Not by just containing the grenade explosion but also by leading the rebellion on Omega after Aria left. In the end Nyreen lived up to the Turian ideal of first and formost serving the needs of the people even when her own people had rejected her. Very Turian.

[GreyLycanTrope]

Arcian wrote...

Aren't we allowed to insult idiot logic anymore? There were several more logical non-lethal outcomes to Nyreen's situation, yet BioWare went with retarded "HURR DURR DRAMAZ".

Hurr Durr Dramaz was the theme of ME3

[ThomasN7]

She sacrificed herself for her people. I don't see the problem with that considering that is what Mass Effect 3 is all about, making sacrifices for the greater good.

[JackBravo69]

Not only was it very predictable, it felt unnecessary and highly manipulative, like BW trying too hard at a deep and dramatc scene which just ended up really badly executed.
She was an ok character with potential that was wasted for no reason at all. And really, who couldnt see her fate coming from a mile away... c´mon!

[Bob Garbage]

Linear outcome for a lackluster character? well I've never heard of that in a bioware game!

[Cody]

InvincibleHero wrote...

zaku257 wrote...

I agree, her poor fate is a result or poor writing...
Based on my experience, those Adjuants(Or whatever they are) are just piece of joke...
Nyreen can just keep dodging them, or delay them with those nades rather than blowing herself up...
The "Blow myself up" just don't make sense...
Anyway crap writing is always crap, too hard for someone to change

Oh come on people are calling writing poor (this kinder than most say) because it is not what they wanted. If she lived suddenly, it'd be a masterpiece that sits on the shelf with Shakespeare. Ohh please. Nyreen served the purpose for BW creating her not you. Her story is what they want to tell period. Fine, you don't like it, but you cannot base criticsm of quality based on an undesired outcome by one user.

It sucks I couldn't save Romeo and Juliet either that writing is crap. Yeah logic does not hold for your premise at all. ET should have stayed damn that Spielberg is a terrible director. No doesn't work for movies either.

What is it with people that don't get their way and spewing vehemence because of it. In kids we call this spoiled brats in adults it smack of entitlement since they should know and behave better.

Pretty much this. Now that the blind Bioware defenders are gone(there was never that many in this thread to begin with) the whiny flamers of anything that is Bioware has come to spam their bs.

Best not to even get into it though. Unless you are spaming idiotic bs like them they will only spam you and say that you are blindly defending Bioware. They are too far up their own behinds to listen to the sound logic that you are saying mate.

I mean it's fine to dislike the dlc. Don't get me wrong. Just dislike it for good reasons. I mean disliking it and Bioware because a character that you liked died or its irrelevance to the main plot etc is just sad and pathetic. I mean those are okay reasons to dislike the dlc. But they should not be the main reason to dislike it, there should be more than that.

Modifié par CodyMelch, 12 décembre 2012 - 04:57 .

[TerraNomad]

 When it comes to the Omega DLC it actually really reminded me a lot of ME3 in general. The gameplay was solid. The story was awesome on the road. But it got really bogged down when the story got stuck on a particular path in the falling action. All in All it was good, but due to the storytelling problems it loses a lot of its presence. 
My best example is the Afterlife scene.

The whole time I was sitting there hooked on the tv, blasting through Cerberus and trying to help all of Omega as a Paragon. Then we see Nyreen at the front of the Afterlife, and to myself I have to say "Oh damn, what's gonna happen now?" And then I see something that just broke the mood for me.

SHE ****ING JUMPS DOWN INTO THE MIDDLE OF THEM! 

Now, don't get me wrong. I'm all for saving the civilians and upholding the many over the few but as a soldier that's completely idiotic. You have grenades, and a biotic super-sphere. Why not just trigger the sphere over the civies and chuck the grenades? It's a scenario of "save six, sacrifice a thousand." The ends really didn't justify the means. I'll admit that's a horribly cruel thing to think but in war you always go in knowing that not all of your soldiers will make it.

The people at the doors to afterlife were all armed and attacking the troopers so I'm to assume they are soldiers in this attack and therefore not the defenseless civilians that she wants to protect. 

I'm not saying her character was bad, far from it. In fact I'll be honest and say Nyreen is perhaps one of my favorite characters in the whole series just from the fact that I clicked so well with her personality. And sorry, that'd be awesome to have as the first Male Shep/ Female Turian pairing.

But in standard fashion for a heroic character, you have to die saving as many as you can. The problem just stems from the general feeling of impotence we receive when we can do absolutely nothing to stop it. Which is somewhat Ironic considering I played as a vanguard and could have thrown myself into the fray at the blink of an eye with biotic explosions going EVERYWHERE. Oh well, plot convenience at it's finest. It feels that she just jumps in to save this insignificant squad of troops when she's by far the more valuable asset.

My point is that it seemed like a real missed opportunity to see some really interesting scenarios unfold by throwing in a heroic sacrifice that while I admit was fully in character just seemed all too big of a scene to have absolutely no effect on.

Which is actually perhaps the biggest downfall to the Mass Effect series. It's not the writing being bad or anything, it's just that we really lost the freedom we had to choose our own destiny. The writing is good in my opinion but it seems that they didn't go the extra mile to think of different ways a scene could play out and just stuck with the first one. It's not a problem of quality, more a problem of just laziness when we've come to expect  the writers to really go the extra mile and give us some really tough decisions with real impact. 

Guess I've rambled enough though. ADHD version. Liked Omega. Fun DLC. Nyreen's death felt a little wasted. Aria's reaction is more about what she doesn't say than what she does.

Modifié par TerraNomad, 12 décembre 2012 - 04:48 .