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[Lokiwithrope]

OMG, GUYZ! LIK TEH ONLY FEMALE TURIAN ZACRIFICED HERZELF! THIZ IZ LAME, I'LL NEVER TRUZT BIOWER AGAN!

Modifié par Lokiwithrope, 28 novembre 2012 - 01:54 .

[LieutenantSarcasm]

Lokiwithrope wrote...

OMG, GUYZ! LIK TEH ONLY FEMALE TURIAN ZACRIFICED HERZELF! THIZ IZ LAME, I'LL NEVER TRUZT BIOWER AGAN!

 That is far from the problem here.

[iOnlySignIn]

I'm so glad. Female Turians just don't feel right in this galaxy. 

This galaxy belongs to blue tentacleheads and jiggly bumbums with masks.

The tumors on Nyreen's chest are gross too, which means she probably would die soon anyway.

Modifié par iOnlySignIn, 28 novembre 2012 - 02:02 .

[d-boy15]

Aiyie wrote...

to be fair, it would've been a bit cliche'd if she'd survived in her little bubble after setting off an explosion like that.  you'd have people on here complaining about how hackneyed and unrealistic the scene was if she'd lived through it.

this is BSN... there can be no harmony or happiness.  all must BURN!

to be fair, most peoples are not hoping she survive to bomb, they hoping she not blow herself up for nothing.

and I don't think you can say the same for shepard 'cause s/he survive the bigger boom in  best destroy ending.

[CronoDragoon]

Completely and utterly unforgivable?

[Lokiwithrope]

LieutenantSarcasm wrote...

Lokiwithrope wrote...

OMG, GUYZ! LIK TEH ONLY FEMALE TURIAN ZACRIFICED HERZELF! THIZ IZ LAME, I'LL NEVER TRUZT BIOWER AGAN!

That is far from the problem here.

Dying because of the bombs inside the sphere makes sense. From what I heard, she generates a sphere that completely blocks gunfire but that means they have to be exterior. Nothing gets in or out; putting bombs in a contained biotic sphere would probably kill anybody, even an asari matriarch. The only problem I personally see with that is the grenades were looted from a guardian!

Modifié par Lokiwithrope, 28 novembre 2012 - 02:17 .

[LieutenantSarcasm]

Lokiwithrope wrote...

LieutenantSarcasm wrote...

Lokiwithrope wrote...

OMG, GUYZ! LIK TEH ONLY FEMALE TURIAN ZACRIFICED HERZELF! THIZ IZ LAME, I'LL NEVER TRUZT BIOWER AGAN!

That is far from the problem here.

Dying because of the bombs inside the sphere makes sense. From what I heard, she generates a sphere that completely blocks gunfire but that means they have to be exterior. Nothing gets in or out; putting bombs in a contained biotic sphere would probably kill anybody, even an asari matriarch.

The problem, good sir, is railroading. It is completely unavoidable. And besides, those biotic barriers would not stop a shock wave of air according to the lore.

[RiouHotaru]

LisuPL wrote...

Zaizer wrote...

Nyreen's death was handled poorly more then anything.

Felt more like "Whelp, time to kill myself!" then a heroic sacrifice.

I agree.

When I saw her death I considered it to be worst and most pointless death in entire Mass Effect series.

It looked all to the bottom as a "forced" death and an excuse not to allow us to have her outside of the DLC as a squadmate.

And not the fact that's it's mechanically impossible for her to be a squadmate in the first place?

[Bill Casey]

Maybe she didn't want to be turned into an Adjutant...
She was surrounded by six of them...

[LieutenantSarcasm]

RiouHotaru wrote...

And not the fact that's it's mechanically impossible for her to be a squadmate in the first place?

*Grabs popcorn* This should be good. Do explain how it is mechanically impossible for her to be a squaddie.

[Conniving_Eagle]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Completely and utterly unforgivable?

Only blood can quell the scale of retribution that these insidious actions have solicited.

Modifié par Conniving_Eagle, 28 novembre 2012 - 02:23 .

[BloodClaw95]

RiouHotaru wrote...

LisuPL wrote...

Zaizer wrote...

Nyreen's death was handled poorly more then anything.

Felt more like "Whelp, time to kill myself!" then a heroic sacrifice.

I agree.

When I saw her death I considered it to be worst and most pointless death in entire Mass Effect series.

It looked all to the bottom as a "forced" death and an excuse not to allow us to have her outside of the DLC as a squadmate.

And not the fact that's it's mechanically impossible for her to be a squadmate in the first place?

Thane's room would like to have a word with you.

[Sharkey1337]

I really wish we could've kept Nyreen as a permanent squadmate as I really liked her. Would've loved to see Garrus' reaction to a fem Turian being on board, would've been fun to see some drama churn up with Tali and Nyreen.

[BloodClaw95]

Sharkey1337 wrote...

I really wish we could've kept Nyreen as a permanent squadmate as I really liked her. Would've loved to see Garrus' reaction to a fem Turian being on board, would've been fun to see some drama churn up with Tali and Nyreen.

I had reach, but she had flexibility.

[I am Sovereign]

Conniving_Eagle wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Completely and utterly unforgivable?

Only blood can quell the scale of retribution that these insidious actions have solicited.

[RiouHotaru]

LieutenantSarcasm wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

And not the fact that's it's mechanically impossible for her to be a squadmate in the first place?

*Grabs popcorn* This should be good. Do explain how it is mechanically impossible for her to be a squaddie.

Anyone remember Javik?  Or rather the so-called "controversy" (which really turned out to be nothing?)  Bioware devs said, that you couldn't (or rather that it was ridiculously and prohibitively difficult to) add characters to a squad-roster AFTER the fact.

This is why Javik exists in the game files even if you don't own his DLC.
This is why Kasumi had a place-holder model and VA lines in ME2

When ME3 was datamined, was there any data, any at all, for Nyreen?  No?

Then she can't be a permanent squadmate.  Sorry.

[LieutenantSarcasm]

RiouHotaru wrote...

Anyone remember Javik?  Or rather the so-called "controversy" (which really turned out to be nothing?)  Bioware devs said, that you couldn't (or rather that it was ridiculously and prohibitively difficult to) add characters to a squad-roster AFTER the fact.

This is why Javik exists in the game files even if you don't own his DLC.
This is why Kasumi had a place-holder model and VA lines in ME2

When ME3 was datamined, was there any data, any at all, for Nyreen?  No?

Then she can't be a permanent squadmate.  Sorry.

Ah yes, because patches are well and truly impossible. This can be patched into the game with some effort, and from the engine's perspective, there is little difference from a temporary to a permament squaddie.

[ImperatorMortis]

Pheonix57 wrote...

Yes, typical writers making us love something only to snatch it away and burn it.

Edit: But you're right, their writing skills are hanging by a thread at the moment.

Well if they made you love her character that much. Then obviously their writing skills aren't hanging on by a thread. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 28 novembre 2012 - 02:59 .

[MrScottBear]

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

blackcadillac117 wrote...

saracen16 wrote...

Nyreen represented an order, one that actually spoke and cared for the people of Omega, that was challenging Aria's ruthlessness and depravity. She was also Aria's main squeeze at one point. For her to die, it signifies a paradox for Aria: to continue in her ways of control, or to honor her friend's death?

I highly doubt Bioware put that much thought into it...

I agree. This would require too much thought. And why write dialogue for a character and have them in a place when you can kill them off? It saves them the trouble of remembering to kill them off by twitter or e-mail later.

Problem with this train of though is that Bioware clearly did intend this.  Between a Paragon Shep and Nyreen Aria's clearly a changed woman at the end of Omega.  The fact that she let Petrovsky live and allowed Cerberus to leave Omega speaks volumes of how much Nyreen's death has changed her.  The old Aria would have splattered his head ala Samara then told Omega to execute every Cerberus soldier they could find.  But she didn't.

[AgentStark]

Unforgivable, no. Mean spirited? You bet your ****ing ass.

My biggest complaint about this is that they didn't find a way to make it look like Nyreen was dead but didn't really die. If she somehow came back at the end via a non-combat side-mission, that would bode better for people. If you had a choice between Aria and Nyreen, that would have been even better.

Bioware, you had a chance to make a good story portion and you f***** up royally. Omega was enjoyable, and I grew to like Nyreen at the end, but you killed her off way too soon. It was nice to have an explosive death, but it was like a "WTF man!" moment as opposed to a "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" moment.

[DeadpoolBub]

I haven't played the DLC yet, but I assume they killed Nyreen off as an easy way to explain why she doesn't join the Normandy after the DLC.

[B.Shep]

I liked the way she die still trying to protect the innocents and how Aria gets mad after that, showing some affection behind that crime boss facade.

I just wish they had also spent more time with the caracterization of Oleg and talking a bit more about the Adjutants.

Modifié par B.Shep, 28 novembre 2012 - 03:20 .

[B.Shep]

DeadpoolBub wrote...

I haven't played the DLC yet, but I assume they killed Nyreen off as an easy way to explain why she doesn't join the Normandy after the DLC.

No. It was already common knowledge both Aria and Nyreen were only temp squadmates. The devs talked about that in some interview.

[Nelatherion]

Her actions were within character. I see no problem with that. Move along please.

[LinksOcarina]

LieutenantSarcasm wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

Anyone remember Javik?  Or rather the so-called "controversy" (which really turned out to be nothing?)  Bioware devs said, that you couldn't (or rather that it was ridiculously and prohibitively difficult to) add characters to a squad-roster AFTER the fact.

This is why Javik exists in the game files even if you don't own his DLC.
This is why Kasumi had a place-holder model and VA lines in ME2

When ME3 was datamined, was there any data, any at all, for Nyreen?  No?

Then she can't be a permanent squadmate.  Sorry.

Ah yes, because patches are well and truly impossible. This can be patched into the game with some effort, and from the engine's perspective, there is little difference from a temporary to a permament squaddie.

Oh really?

Please, do tell me how it can be patched in?