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Nyreen's fate was completely and utterly unforgivable.


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billywaffles

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I hope at least they give us female turians for MP.

I am ok with Nyreen's fate. Another fallen hero, seems consistent with me3 tbh, and I prefer her dying as a hero than staying on Omega and not joining you because of some "they are my people" bs.

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Bioware skill to **** up endings got increased

grrrrrrrrr

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Brovikk Rasputin

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The Night Mammoth wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The sad thing about war is that people die. If you can't handle that, you should probably consider playing a different game.


The comparison here between conflict in a video game, and actual war, is so off, I have no words. 

I'm not comparing stuff. Just saying that ME3 is a game about a galaxy wide war, and that you can't expect everyone to survive that. You're trying too hard..

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billywaffles wrote...

I hope at least they give us female turians for MP.

I am ok with Nyreen's fate. Another fallen hero, seems consistent with me3 tbh, and I prefer her dying as a hero than staying on Omega and not joining you because of some "they are my people" bs.


I'm okay with Nyreen's death too, besides, it caused Aria to change a bit. During her final speech to all the citizens of Omega, she said things she normally wouldn't say like "casting Cerberus out" instead of brutally executing them, and "mourning the dead". The fact that she intends on helping the civilians shows that Nyreen's death had an impact on Aria's personality. I didn't see that coming, even Petrovsky believed that Aria wouldn't change even slightly from her ruthless ways.

Modifié par N7Gold, 28 novembre 2012 - 05:16 .


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Her death was pointless. I haven't been this mad since Shepard kills Tela Vasir for doing what he was doing

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yfullman wrote...

Her death was pointless. I haven't been this mad since Shepard kills Tela Vasir for doing what he was doing


Shepard killed Tela for trying to steal the data on the location of the Shadow Broker base. Liara needed that data to rescue Feron, plus Tela was extremely ruthless, for a spectre working for the Shadow Broker, trying to assasinate Liara and blew up dozens of civilians at Baria Frontiers, and hide the Shadow Broker base's location. Everyone has a "good" reason to do what they do. Liara needed to infiltrate Shdow Broker's base to save Feron, Tela needed to help the Shadow Broker because the Shadow Broker gave her information that saved many lives in the past.

In the words of Illusive Man, "The world is more gray than you care to admit."

Modifié par N7Gold, 28 novembre 2012 - 05:28 .


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I for one liked it. It fit within her character to do so. She faced her fear of the creatures that had turned her own friends against her and which she had to put down. It wasn't shallow at all that she'd sacrifice herself for innocents as she did. She distracted them so some could flee. It felt right.

As for Aria not saying anything about her or the act, well I don't think it would have been within Aria's character to air those emotions publicly. She could see it as a sign of weakness and would do so privately. I could be wrong. *shrug*

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I don't understand how her death wasn't mentioned. Was Aria running through the doors of Afterlife like a biotic god not enough?

Nevara wrote...

As for Aria not saying anything about her
or the act, well I don't think it would have been within Aria's
character to air those emotions publicly. She could see it as a sign of
weakness and would do so privately. I could be wrong. *shrug*


Agreed and infact I think she made emotions about Nyreen's death pretty public to begin with.

But yeah I felt her death was uncalled for. My Shep and Aria could have taken those things out easily.

Modifié par Lenimph, 28 novembre 2012 - 05:42 .


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Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The Night Mammoth wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

The sad thing about war is that people die. If you can't handle that, you should probably consider playing a different game.


The comparison here between conflict in a video game, and actual war, is so off, I have no words. 

I'm not comparing stuff. Just saying that ME3 is a game about a galaxy wide war, and that you can't expect everyone to survive that. You're trying too hard..


That's really true, but since it's a story someone has written there are things to consider like the quality of death. Nyreen simply killed herself in a random way and for almost no reason. The situation didn't require that at all. That, my friend, is simply bad writing and that's what most of the people here are complaining about.

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too bad, creating a biotic turian to show off some new skill then kill her......a preview for MP eh...turian adept and vanguard in future....

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I am scensing a pattern here, that unless the character is an Asari. A temporal squad mate is garintied to die.

Modifié par behellmorph, 28 novembre 2012 - 06:34 .


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Gonna have to disagree with the tide on this one. Nyreen's death wasn't amazing or anything, but it was done fairly well. The scene made sense (I made a thread some time ago saying that death scenes need work), and she did it for something she believed in (also, conquering her fear).

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The scene worked, but was kind of stupid considering civilians there were already dead as people have already pointed out.

Imo it'd be better if you could let her to her thing and die, saving you time and a tough fight (renegade) or saving her.(paragon).

It'd also fit with whole theme of the DLC. With Nyreen alive Aria would have her counter-balance and with her dead noone would stand in the way of her ambitions.

It'd make people who like Nyreen less angry, I know it'd make me less angry.

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Killing her was a logical outcome, unfortunatly it was badly presented, unless of course she wanted to die in reaction to her sins of letting innocent getting gun down by ceberus after freeing them all.

Meh who know what was in her mind, she just seem like a suiccid to me. Kinda lower my respect for the character.

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Civilians weren't all dead. There's a bunch of them standing to Shep's right after Aria charges into Afterlife. You can even go and listen to them talk about Nyreen's sacrifice.

Hell, you can even see them running past Shepard and Aria in the cinematic once they're near the spot where Nyreen detonated those bombs.

Modifié par Master Shiori, 28 novembre 2012 - 09:23 .


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Nyreen had to die. She was a hero, and would've gotten in the way of Aria retaking Omega. Sure it would've been great to choose between her and Aria for who gets Omega, but it didn't happen. Instead, we got a great character who faced her fears to protect the people she cared about. Otherwise she would've ended up another war asset and never heard from again. Her character got closure which I'm happy with.

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Master Shiori wrote...

Civilians weren't all dead. There's a bunch of them standing to Shep's right after Aria charges into Afterlife. You can even go and listen to them talk about Nyreen's sacrifice.

Hell, you can even see them running past Shepard and Aria in the cinematic once they're near the spot where Nyreen detonated those bombs.

Pretty much this. Its amazing how some people love to complain so much they even "forget" these details.<_<

Nyreen dead was sad but fitting with everything she believed.

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B.Shep wrote...

Master Shiori wrote...

Civilians weren't all dead. There's a bunch of them standing to Shep's right after Aria charges into Afterlife. You can even go and listen to them talk about Nyreen's sacrifice.

Hell, you can even see them running past Shepard and Aria in the cinematic once they're near the spot where Nyreen detonated those bombs.

Pretty much this. Its amazing how some people love to complain so much they even "forget" these details.<_<

Nyreen dead was sad but fitting with everything she believed.


She helped Aria set the civilian on ceberus not 15 minute befor hand, now she kill herself to save 5. Explain plz.

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Im pretty sure the duration on "her" powers are limited... When they failed they woudl have been waitign for her and turned her into an adjutant just the same horrible way she said her friends had been turned. She also didn't know help was on the way.

It's a war for survival and people are dying. Difference here is you got to know her a little, not alot about her but enough to get interested in learning more, then "BOOM". That's what happens in wars. It's a healthy reminder imo.

From the beginning it was unlikely to be a suicide run, but as she involved herself more Adjutants showed up.

Modifié par shodiswe, 28 novembre 2012 - 11:56 .


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Nyrene was the most interesting thing about this awful DLC and she was wiped out before she could even become developed. Why couldn't we kill the moron Aria and put Nyrene in charge of Omega?

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FlyinElk212 wrote...

RiouHotaru wrote...

It's a biotic power. She couldn't hold it forever.

I think a lot of people misinterpretted that scene. It looks as though she TRAPPED the adjutants in her Biotic Protector bubble, so that only her and the adjutants would be affected by the bombs. She did it to protect the civilians, which ties back to her entire arc in this DLC of "saving innocents".

I dunno, I thought her death was handled alright. Even better to see Aria get reaaallly angry afterward, truly showing affection for someone other than herself for once.



You are too smart for these forums.

#172
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i liked the DLC

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I don't know why Bioware has this mad obsession with killing off characters just to put an end to their story-arc, rather than actually giving them a good ending.

I guess it's just easier to kill people off.

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I had no problem with her fate, I thought it was a well done scene and I was very sad, plus Aria's reaction to it was well done.

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Honestly I think Nyreens death fell flat. She could have gone down in a much better way, the way that scene was executed just felt out of place.

I have no problem with them writing her off so quickly. It just wasn't delivered very well, imo.