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[Kohaku]

I would have never thought of that. Game needs more Disney Deaths.

[ReubenLiew]

I agree. They should've allowed your Dog to attack the Archdemon at the end and Disney Death himself, so you can go berzerk and smite the sucka for all you're worth.

[Kohaku]

Seriously! You can nominate the dog to fight Loghain! Why can't that fully be realized?

[Squiggles1334]

To truly imitate the Disney family structure stereotype, where are all the short, pudgy, bumbling father figures who are there for comedy relief? The Little Mermaid notwithstanding...

[Herr Uhl]

Squiggles1334 wrote...

To truly imitate the Disney family structure stereotype, where are all the short, pudgy, bumbling father figures who are there for comedy relief? The Little Mermaid notwithstanding...

Oghren?

[Squiggles1334]

He's not a daddy until after the game, and after he's sobered up a bit.

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Squiggles1334 wrote...

To truly imitate the Disney family structure stereotype, where are all the short, pudgy, bumbling father figures who are there for comedy relief? The Little Mermaid notwithstanding...

Oghren?

Never considered Oghren a father figure, especially since I've always been disappointed he was too drunk to do much after his "rump roast" dialogue. I was most certainly hurt after that, and would not speak to him for days.

Not paternal by any stretch of the word.

[Herr Uhl]

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Not paternal by any stretch of the word.

You did not have my parents <_<

[Inzhuna]

this thread is hilarious.

i actually did think of this, after playing the last origin, 'what, no mother AGAIN??'

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Skadi_the_Evil_Elf wrote...
Not paternal by any stretch of the word.

You did not have my parents <_<

Oh, yes i did. Just not a father. So you can imagine what my mother was like.  

Of course, oghren's "maternal" episodes (getting drunk, passing out, starting fights with barbecued meat, and suspecting the family pet to be involved in plots to remove clothing) are not exactly what i find attractive.

it's his shamelessly crude method of trying to hit on chicks, and KNOWING he's a little dwarf studmuffin despite being a complete reprobate, is what makes him yummy.

[phordicus]

Loghain is a mother...

...shut yo mouth!

[Sable Phoenix]

Tibbi_Sunshine wrote...

Being an orphan or bereft of some parent is often a trait of heroes in a typical hero's journey. Luke Skywalker and Dorothy Gale for example. It's often used to give a reason for the hero's impetus to leave their known world and venture out into the larger world (because they have no familial ties), it serves to increase their empathy or desire to save others from their lonely existence, and it serves to make them more "worldly" or set them apart from conventional society.

DA:O includes a number of elements Hero's Journey, really.

Call to Adventure/Refusal of the Call: Meeting/Being Conscripted by Duncan
Supernatural Aid and Belly of the Whale would both be the Joining
Crossing the First Threshold is your arrival at Ostagar
The Road of Trials would be getting your allies together, maybe.

I could go on, but you get the idea.

The Belly of the Whale would actually be the Deep Roads (remember, the order in which the events happen is particularly fluid, outside of the Call to Adventure and Refusal of the Call).

Yes, I too love Joseph Campbell, mostly due to Star Wars.  Although he was a bit of an ideologue, there is some merit to his theories, and he's an inimitable student of mythology.

I can see the ways in which Dragon Age coincides with the Hero's Journey.  Heck, it even has Duncan as the Wizard figure.  Oh!  And the Hero uniting the Worlds.  That's there too.  The biggest sections of the universal mythology that are missing is The Slaying of the Father and The Hero as Tyrant.

Those are often ommitted from popular culture adaptations of the metamyth, though, since they're kind of a downer.

Modifié par Sable Phoenix, 05 janvier 2010 - 05:48 .

[Namirsolo]

Zevran's mother also died in childbirth, so there's another.

[saori_shinjiro]

Hahaha, this thread is awesome xD



Don't forget the dwarves who mine. Too bad they don't sing hi-ho.

[Antikristine]

But where are all the dads? I think they're dead too....

Well, you have a dad in the city elf origin. Other than that, there are no origin dads.

Alistair and Cailan's father is dead.

Morrigan never knew her father.

Zevran's father died before his mother (if the guy his mother married was his father).

We never get to know about Leliana, Sten, Wynne, Oghren or Shale's fathers.



The only interesting father is the male Grey Warden, Alistair or Loghain if you go through with Morrigan's ritual, but in that case you also have a very interesting mother...

[Prolefeed]

Callie K wrote...

There are almost no mothers in Fereldan.

Dwarf noble?  No mom.
Elven alienage?  Dead mom.
Dalish elf?  Dead mom.  (Dad too.)
Dwarven castless? ...haven't played it, let me know.
Mage?  Not sure.  I believe I remember being asked about my relationship with my dad, but not my mom.
Human noble?  Mom, check!  (Although, then she dies.  Dad, too.)

Anora's got no mom, either.  Alistair's got a dead mom.  (But dad, too.)  Flemeth isn't Morrigan's real mom...Is Leliana an orphan?

Seems like a mother shortage going around here. 

Well, it is set in a medieval time period. People tend to drop like flies from things like the flu when there's no one around with a basic understanding of medicine or hygiene. I imagine magical healing would be very expensive, and only for the rich.

Also, up until the 19th century, childbirth was one of the biggest killers of women. This continues in undeveloped regions of the world. So it really does make sense that the mom's even more likely to be dead than the dad.

[Bhatair]

Yeah I noticed a lot of people had dead parents too. It's a fantasy/hero cliche sure but for good reason.



But comparing it to a Disney movie? I don't know I must have missed the one where the main character slit a child's throat to save it from a demon.