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[clarkusdarkus]

Star fury wrote...

Eurogamer gives it 4 out of 10, lulz.

http://www.eurogamer...-3-omega-review

i agree with this score and the article didn't even mention the bugs which do make you laugh to be fair.......man what a waste of a franchise and so so glad i didnt fall for the pre release crap leading up to Omega( biggest dlc to date and its strong.)......it's corridor shooting and weak and i dont know whats worse.....that the team had a year to make this or the fact the same team are making ME4

[Ticonderoga117]

txgoldrush wrote...
Love your bad criticism based on untrue facts.

The alliance did not even have access to the archives where the Crucible was found.

And how is them trying to build something they don't know contrived? Then I could easily call ME1's entire plot contrived because Shepard did not know what the Conduit did.

And you realize Cerebrus knew who the Shadow Broker was (duh....Cerebrus gave Shepard the intel to give Liara to take down the Broker, or did you miss this?). In fact Homeworlds #4 shows this.

Since when did the genophage cause genocide? Thats false. The Krogans view it as such however.

Kai Leng has what is called a monomolecular blade...try again. Notice how Phantoms slash through your shields?

And yet TIM could get through the Omega 4 relay without the IFF in ME2 at the very end.

Nothing contrived with the Leviathan arc (other that forceful foreshadowing), in fact Leviathan is an example in how NOT to be contrived when it comes to plot. Nevermind it thematically wraps a series.

And really, you don't know what "contrived" means.

Anything after the bold I can't take seriously because that's a blatant lie. The Prothean ruins on Mars (Where the plans were) was FOUNDED and RUN by the Alliance! I mean, I can at least understand having problems with fact not as obvious, but this is just a flat out lie.

[cyrexwingblade]

I'm honestly neutral on Omega itself. It's more run and gun with some interesting ideas tossed in (yay femTurian).

I'm boycotting because it was overpriced and overhyped. I would have been far more likely to purchase if they hadn't outright lied and just said: "Yeah, it's run and gun action with a female Turian cameo! And we need to cover costs, sorry, but the price tag is higher than normal."

Yeah, still would've gotten guff, but *I* would've been refreshed by the honesty, and likely would have bought it. Now? Nah. Don't need it that bad. The parts I'd like I can see on Youtube.

[LinksOcarina]

Because people hate BioWare now, because they are owned by EA. And everyone has to hate EA because they are bad.

[thearbiter1337]

Crypticqa wrote...

Once again, Omega is very similar to LoTSB.
Both have alot of combat, temporary squad mates,minimum choices and about the same sized story.
Why is LoTSB praised while Omega is bashed?

I am starting to think its simply because "But the ending still sucks,so I am going to dislike everything Bioware does"

Why i dislike Omega is due to the fact how potential was wasted

What could have happened 

-Remaining Collectors ships go to Omega to regain control of the O4R so Oleg would have done a temporay alliance with Shep and Aria then at the end you get to choice between Aria,Nyreen and Oleg as the leader of Omega

-Could have made Omega a hub

-Could have had more Harbinger Cameo 

-Garrus could have been able to provide tactical advice

And even with Collectors not in Omega they could have

-Made a choice of the leader (as said above) so they can make Omega a better place and didn't just force Aria as the leader which was a major "**** you" to Garrus's team

-Show Cerberus's "Good" side

-KILL ARIA

[VanguardGR13]

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Modifié par VanguardGR13, 28 novembre 2012 - 08:29 .

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Modifié par VanguardGR13, 28 novembre 2012 - 08:24 .

[Exicuren]

thearbiter1337 wrote...

Crypticqa wrote...

Once again, Omega is very similar to LoTSB.
Both have alot of combat, temporary squad mates,minimum choices and about the same sized story.
Why is LoTSB praised while Omega is bashed?

I am starting to think its simply because "But the ending still sucks,so I am going to dislike everything Bioware does"

Why i dislike Omega is due to the fact how potential was wasted

What could have happened 

-Remaining Collectors ships go to Omega to regain control of the O4R so Oleg would have done a temporay alliance with Shep and Aria then at the end you get to choice between Aria,Nyreen and Oleg as the leader of Omega

-Could have made Omega a hub

-Could have had more Harbinger Cameo 

-Garrus could have been able to provide tactical advice

And even with Collectors not in Omega they could have

-Made a choice of the leader (as said above) so they can make Omega a better place and didn't just force Aria as the leader which was a major "**** you" to Garrus's team

-Show Cerberus's "Good" side

-KILL ARIA

Well, that could've happened, but the problem recides somewhere else, meaning, stupid MS dl size limt.

[macrocarl]

BSN loves to complain. It's very simple. And then folks around here wonder why they're not getting devs to weigh in.

[KBomb]

Exicuren wrote...



Well, that could've happened, but the problem recides somewhere else, meaning, stupid MS dl size limt.

heh, so now lack of content is to be blamed on MS? Well, it is true that only so much content can be added due to the limit, but it most certainly isn't the entire reason. Those things don't require massive cutscenes to be implemented. Other companies have meaty and extensive content in their dlc's simply because they don't over saturate it with cutscenes. Maybe the issue of too many cutscenes and not enough gameplay could be some of the problem.

Modifié par KBomb, 28 novembre 2012 - 09:41 .

[MaleQuariansFTW]

Crypticqa wrote...

Once again, Omega is very similar to LoTSB.
Both have alot of combat, temporary squad mates,minimum choices and about the same sized story.
Why is LoTSB praised while Omega is bashed?

I am starting to think its simply because "But the ending still sucks,so I am going to dislike everything Bioware does"

This. So. Much.

[Teddie Sage]

My Shepard wouldn't allow Aria to remain on Omega, he would send her right in jail or shoot her. I'm playing Paragon style, but it doesn't take one and one to understand that Aria is a criminal and no one is brave enough to stand against her.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 28 novembre 2012 - 09:54 .

[Necrotron]

FoureyesZero wrote...

Because mass effect 3 did not have a happy simple ending that they could understand so they hate everything now without reason.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of why people didn't like the ending, but you are correct on the assessment that people are probably not liking Omega mostly due to their discontent with the ending.

Myself, I find just a general lack of interest anymore, whereas before, I used to collect everything Mass Effect.

[Frostmourne86]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
Love your bad criticism based on untrue facts.

The alliance did not even have access to the archives where the Crucible was found.

And how is them trying to build something they don't know contrived? Then I could easily call ME1's entire plot contrived because Shepard did not know what the Conduit did.

And you realize Cerebrus knew who the Shadow Broker was (duh....Cerebrus gave Shepard the intel to give Liara to take down the Broker, or did you miss this?). In fact Homeworlds #4 shows this.

Since when did the genophage cause genocide? Thats false. The Krogans view it as such however.

Kai Leng has what is called a monomolecular blade...try again. Notice how Phantoms slash through your shields?

And yet TIM could get through the Omega 4 relay without the IFF in ME2 at the very end.

Nothing contrived with the Leviathan arc (other that forceful foreshadowing), in fact Leviathan is an example in how NOT to be contrived when it comes to plot. Nevermind it thematically wraps a series.

And really, you don't know what "contrived" means.

Anything after the bold I can't take seriously because that's a blatant lie. The Prothean ruins on Mars (Where the plans were) was FOUNDED and RUN by the Alliance! I mean, I can at least understand having problems with fact not as obvious, but this is just a flat out lie.

I think the person you're responding to meant "access" as "read, understand, and comprehend the prothean language", which they can't because they (1) aren't Shepard and (2) aren't asari that specialize in prothean writings and artefacts. 

Modifié par Frostmourne86, 28 novembre 2012 - 10:11 .

[KBomb]

Bathaius wrote...

FoureyesZero wrote...

Because mass effect 3 did not have a happy simple ending that they could understand so they hate everything now without reason.

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of why people didn't like the ending, but you are correct on the assessment that people are probably not liking Omega mostly due to their discontent with the ending.

Myself, I find just a general lack of interest anymore, whereas before, I used to collect everything Mass Effect.

While I agree that people who are dissatisfied with the ending and/or game as a whole are more likely not to
enjoy dlc's as much as those who were satisfied, that being said, I believe that most would give it a shot if they truly believed the dlc was redeemable. Also, the excuse that most didn't like the game because they didn't get a happy ending is a tired old excuse pro-enders continuously use to pound in the thought that "I loved this game so much! How can anyone not like it!!" mentality.

That theory was blown out the window when I saw users who were not happy at all with ME3, but loved every minute of the Walking Dead game. Discontent isn't always measured by the ending. While some admit it to be the reason, it's oversimplifying and ignoring a bulk of legitimate reasons given by other fans who were not happy. Using the
"oh, they just want bunnies and rainbows!" is just a blindfold, so that you don't have to really examine the true reasons why ME3 fell short.

[Bourne Endeavor]

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

FoureyesZero wrote...

Because mass effect 3 did not have a happy simple ending that they could understand so they hate everything now without reason.

This.
Theres no doubt in my mind that if those endings were changed nobody would care about all the flaws in the DLCs.
EC got flammed. 
Leviathan got flammed. 
and now Omega is getting flammed. It's going to keep on going this route. 

It couldn't possibly have to do with them being poorly written? No, of course not. We just hate for hate's sake and have no actual basis or rationale for our opinion. God forbid we think BioWare may not be flawlessly wonderful.

[Aligalipe]

It's simple, because Omega doesn't matter, all we get in the end is 300/400 EMS and thats all. Unless our actions in the dlc's effect the endings somehow, they feel pointless. I don't hate Omega, but its how I felt. All of the future DLCs will feel pointless to me because of the given reasons. And they said it would be 4.5 hours long. It took me barely 3 hours to finish.

[AxStapleton]

FoureyesZero wrote...

Because mass effect 3 did not have a happy simple ending that they could understand so they hate everything now without reason.

This mindset is as tired as the complaints.

[ste100]

The truth is, that no matter how good or bad DLC Bioware will do - we will be always unhappy - because silly kid will be always waiting for us at the end.

[Nevara]

But why must every little story effect the ending? If you have to buy DLC to effect the ending it'll incite more problems then there are now.

[Maxster_]

Bourne Endeavor wrote...

iPoohCupCakes wrote...

FoureyesZero wrote...

Because mass effect 3 did not have a happy simple ending that they could understand so they hate everything now without reason.

This.
Theres no doubt in my mind that if those endings were changed nobody would care about all the flaws in the DLCs.
EC got flammed. 
Leviathan got flammed. 
and now Omega is getting flammed. It's going to keep on going this route. 

It couldn't possibly have to do with them being poorly written? No, of course not. We just hate for hate's sake and have no actual basis or rationale for our opinion. God forbid we think BioWare may not be flawlessly wonderful.

Of course not. Intro was brilliant, Crucible concept is best idea of 21 century's scifi, and Catalyst is most deep and thought-provoking and geniusly written character.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean its flawed. 

[Matahari0711]

Haven't read through the thread as its too long, but why why would you hate Omega??? It's fun, of course not what you expect if you expect ANYTHING regarding endings etc, (the usual yawn) but its a good dlc! Bette than Levi IMO...

[Mathias]

LinksOcarina wrote...

Because people hate BioWare now, because they are owned by EA. And everyone has to hate EA because they are bad.

Stop handwaving everything away like it only comes down to blind hatred.

[Teddie Sage]

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

LinksOcarina wrote...

Because people hate BioWare now, because they are owned by EA. And everyone has to hate EA because they are bad.

Stop handwaving everything away like it only comes down to blind hatred.

Sorry, but I agree with LinksOcarina. EA changed Bioware... and possibly for the worse.

Modifié par Teddie Sage, 28 novembre 2012 - 10:54 .

[WhiteKnyght]

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
Love your bad criticism based on untrue facts.

The alliance did not even have access to the archives where the Crucible was found.

And how is them trying to build something they don't know contrived? Then I could easily call ME1's entire plot contrived because Shepard did not know what the Conduit did.

And you realize Cerebrus knew who the Shadow Broker was (duh....Cerebrus gave Shepard the intel to give Liara to take down the Broker, or did you miss this?). In fact Homeworlds #4 shows this.

Since when did the genophage cause genocide? Thats false. The Krogans view it as such however.

Kai Leng has what is called a monomolecular blade...try again. Notice how Phantoms slash through your shields?

And yet TIM could get through the Omega 4 relay without the IFF in ME2 at the very end.

Nothing contrived with the Leviathan arc (other that forceful foreshadowing), in fact Leviathan is an example in how NOT to be contrived when it comes to plot. Nevermind it thematically wraps a series.

And really, you don't know what "contrived" means.

Anything after the bold I can't take seriously because that's a blatant lie. The Prothean ruins on Mars (Where the plans were) was FOUNDED and RUN by the Alliance! I mean, I can at least understand having problems with fact not as obvious, but this is just a flat out lie.

goldrush has a point about the conduit. You spend the entire game looking for a device that does nothing but take you to a place you go through a hundred times during the course of the game.

Also nowhere did it say the Alliance didn't have access to the prothean data archives, that's the blatant lie. If you actually pay attention when Liara talks, the Prothean archives were so vastly filled with information that there was still a lot they hadn't deciphered. That's why nobody had found the Crucible blueprints until Liara found out about the data on Kahje(read Homeworlds.)