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Teddie Sage

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I'd say they just stopped caring, this would be more accurate. Of course, unsatiable greed can seriously damage writing quality, i saw that with some book writers.
But it seems to me most of EAWare writers just tired of writing.


I agree. They should've just waited instead of rushing and releasing the game 8 months ago, but sadly EA is in dire need of money so they had to make some cuts here and there, then this happened. SWTOR didn't help with the profits at all, and when we see what happened with Dragon Age 2's cancelled expansion, I honestly fear the quality of the other games they're going to try to give us in a near future. I'd rather have quality over quantity if you see what I mean.

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Teddie Sage wrote...

Maxster_ wrote...

I'd say they just stopped caring, this would be more accurate. Of course, unsatiable greed can seriously damage writing quality, i saw that with some book writers.
But it seems to me most of EAWare writers just tired of writing.


I agree. They should've just waited instead of rushing and releasing the game 8 months ago, but sadly EA is in dire need of money so they had to make some cuts here and there, then this happened. SWTOR didn't help with the profits at all, and when we see what happened with Dragon Age 2's cancelled expansion, I honestly fear the quality of the other games they're going to try to give us in a near future. I'd rather have quality over quantity if you see what I mean.

Well, i already don't care for their future games.
After SWTOR failure, immediately followed by ME3 failure, i have no further interest in their products. I'd better wait for Wasteland 2, Project Eternity and Star Citizen.

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I just finished Omega and it was fine. I'm going to do another playthrough to see how different choices play out, but all in all I'm satisfied with what I got for my money.

As far as criticisms, here's what I think:
1. There were some small glitches that shouldn't have been there. Not a big deal, though.
2. Nyreen's death didn't have much impact on me. There was a lot of time put into telling us how she's an ethical person and that she freezes up against the adjuctants, but besides her arguments and the way she sacrifices herself to save some civilians, we don't see her being ethical, and we don't have many opportunities to sympathize with her. Also, I didn't really understand why she was so afraid of the adjuctants. Maybe I missed the explanation.
3. A big deal was made out of the adjuctants' ability to spread their virus and turn people into other adjuctants, but I never saw that happen. Again, maybe I missed it. The build up to seeing the first adjuctant was pretty good; similar to the build up to seeing the first banshee. Still, they seemed like a secondary threat next to Cerberus. And yes, I read the comic where adjuctants attack Omega. Will adjuctants be showing up later in the campaign? That'd be a nice touch.

Despite these criticisms, I enjoyed Omega. It was fun crawling through the new areas, and seeing Aria rip open that force field was pretty cool; really gets the idea across that she's just that pissed. Nyreen's female turian design looked really good. The step by step process of taking Omega back felt good, like a multi-stage campaign starting from a beachhead and working inwards. Now that I know the pacing, I'll be able to do more exploring on my next playthrough.

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Lol at the Lotsb being overrated comment. I at least take pride that i loved it before coming to the boards, people these days change opinions on what they like when they see other people's input.

They built up the Shador Broker lore in 2 games and a couple of books/comics and in the end it came together beautifully. Never underestimate the Lotsb!

Haven't played omega and probably won't buy it. I've bought every major DLC mission since Pinnacle Station way back in ME1. But since i was so disappointed with the ending and Leviathans incoherent nonsense, i'll just resort to the tubes for now.

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Where in the flying **** do I start?

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Because hating is the new thing. Heres a few examples: hate Dallas Cowboys why? cause they suck, but hate Houston Texans Why? cause their winners. Hate Xbox why? cause its made by microsoft. Hate PS3 Why? Doesn't have Halo and to many exclusives. Hate Superman Why? Cause he....wait we all hate superman he does suck, Love Batman Why? Cause he shows you don't need powers with MONEY all things are possible. :Last but not least hate Bioware Why? cause they gave a great game that ended with a BIG WTF on the screen. Hate DLC regardless Why? cause its made by Bioware.

Modifié par JillBSuiT, 29 novembre 2012 - 12:17 .


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AresKeith wrote...

Because its overpriced for the content inside the DLC

It isn't really bad

This

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DaveTheRave05 wrote...

Why? I don't know. I'm starting to think the majority of the people here 'hate' Omega and anything post Mass Effect 3 to try and look cool or important, make themselves stand out amongst the hate crowd or something. A lot of the hate is just butthurt anyway.

I personally thought that Omega was great. Wasn't mindblowing, like the same majority thought it was going to be, but what more could you ask for when the whole thing was based around taking Omega back from Cerberus? I'm glad that Aria was fleshed out more as a character, rather than your basic crime lord, and was developed well alongside her relationship with Nyreen. Nyreen herself was a good character too, though I do wish her Biotic Protector ability could be unlocked. I'll get over it though.

Really, only complaints I have are the odd glitch here and there (really, it isn't nearly as bad as people are saying it is. Some I found quite humourous), but for £10, it's a decent price tag. I enjoyed it, and that's all that matters. Yes, I will be looking forward to the next DLC, whatever that may be.


My sentiments exactly.


Why are you even posting here? You're obviously way too smart for these forums.

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MegaSovereign wrote...

No real payoff. Nyreen dies in a contrived way. Graphical glitches that make it seem unpolished. Those are just the big ones.

Leviathan was better and it costs 5 bucks less. Omega should have been cheaper.

Leviathan was only better in that Bryson's pad was awesome... for the short while you got to hang out in it, that is.

Difficulty was the same, Leviathan's story was cool, but arguably less significant... Also, Leviathan came with its own set of bugs, which were equally annoying. The two DLCs are more or less on equal footing imo.

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I liked it, but in retrospect, I could justify paying 15 dollars for Leviathan rather than Omega.

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Locutus_of_BORG wrote...

Leviathan's story was cool, but arguably less significant...

What.

Modifié par aternak, 29 novembre 2012 - 12:41 .


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MegaSovereign wrote...

No real payoff. Nyreen dies in a contrived way. Graphical glitches that make it seem unpolished. Those are just the big ones.

Leviathan was better and it costs 5 bucks less. Omega should have been cheaper.


I have not purchased Omega, but I agree.  For $15 bucks I'd expect to at least to be able to visit Omega any time, like in ME2. Even if it was just to have a drink and dance in Afterlife or get snub'ed by Aria. Omega was 50% more expensive than all previous DLC, yet doesn't seem to have anymore content. 

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Even if we ignore the gameplay and plot, LotSB is still far superior to Omega in terms of dialogue and character writing. Nyreen and Aria's banter was nowhere near as sharp and funny as Liara and Shepard's.

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1. There were some small glitches that shouldn't have been there. Not a big deal, though.


Seriously? Considering how Aria's ENTIRE speech is glitched, and Omega no doubt went through countless test playthroughs before it was released, this suggests to me that they just didn't care since it would take little effort to fix. It is extremely noticeable, extremely distracting, and very immersion breaking.

Also, my Omega download had a much more annoying glitch, which was the sound getting washed out when I first played it - this wasn't fixed on restart, but only when I loaded from an autosave. It's this kind of crap that definitely makes it not worth 15 bucks - it was unpolished.

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I didnt exactly hate it, but i did find it very boring and over priced. Pretty much all dlc has added something new and interesting to mix up the formula up until now. This one just has shooting and corridors and waves of enemies. I also am a bit confused about Bioware touting this as the 'biggest dlc to date'. It had some 'big' spaces to shoot stuff in sure, but i made the mistake of interpreting 'biggest' as breadth of content, and this has to be the most lacking so far. This dlc is totally skippable in my opinion - you gain absolutely nothing to take back to the main game bar some upgrades. No characters joined the normandy, no weapons to add to the collection i didnt already have and no pieces of armor or anything good at all basically. Im not outraged, im just dissapointed. Far too generic.

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One Word. Aria


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People ****ed becasue it was overpriced
People ****ed because of the probable:
        didn't add another squadmate you can have on the Normandy
        didn't allow Shepard to explore more of Omega that they loved in ME2
        didn't allow more dialogue choice parts
        didn't contain a boss encounter
        didn't have an adequate time for 2gb
        didn't do some other random Mass Effect related activity that they wanted in the game


To be honest guys, it's going to be harder for more DLC to come out because the majority of voice actors returning to fill very little parts is going to be limited. Just one of these Mass Effect games have so many outcomes involving coding of "if you do this, then this will happen," or if you don't do this, then that won't happen." Then "by doing this, this allows this NPC to do this or that."

Yes the price is a bit much. SO the obvious solution is to wait or just don't buy it. If there is a large % that ends up not bying it, EA has no choice but to discount so people will. I personally am glad DLC content is still rolling . I should have waited, but I was eager to watch/play new content that if I decide to do a full ME trilogy play through, it'll make ME3 last longer.

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I started omega without any preconceptions, as I did not get in to all the hype. I enjoyed it as much as some random assignment, but that is just it.
The first time I got annoyed is when Aria said "I will bring my own people", I waited for a renegade interupt or something.. but no, Shepard just accepted not to take in his own army and work with a bunch of people he (and I) weren't able to trust. After this event, I was like "Let's just get this done with". Bioware probably saved a bag of cash on a load of one-liners, but even a single Garrus/Tali 'just like old times' banter would made me very happy.

Unless I missed, omega did not have much of any soundtrack, just some bits of music. I missed that one most during Aria's speeches of inspiration for Omega. A good bit of uplifting music could move a planet here.

From the aspect of character building, why would I trust Nyreen? I have no idea who she is, or what is she like. Through the dialogue we don't really get to understand what kind of person is she, just that she fell in love with Aria. Also, no closure on why she feared the adjutants (but maybe I missed that with a paragon interrupt).

Other things with this DLC are minor for me, the two above killed it for me.

Didn't we see an early 'leak' involving a quarian and what looked like a collector ship in a screenshot?

WTF is wrong with the asteroid ceiling in the skyline view? Low poly, low res, like it's 1998 or something..

Seeing as ME series is full of inside jokes, I am astonished that Nyreen did not say something like "What, never seen a turian female before?" "Hey, there is plenty of turian women out there, have you not seen one?"

They could of course add omega as a hub, put in 20 small assignments in there, a few shops and all, but that would probably cost just too much to make. Omega is expensive as it is.

Then I get back to the Normandy, and everyone is "You were out? never noticed", I could only say "Yeah, I was just fighting a buttload of cerberus troops, some reaper atrocities, and listening to women bickering, and no one came to help?! Maybe some angry batarian abducted me.." (for those who did not play - this DIDN'T happen)

And as long as I am posting.. I am a talimancer, so a properly done Tali scene here would have overshadowed the bugs and other gunk.

Modifié par Adomas, 29 novembre 2012 - 02:39 .


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Scalabrine wrote...

Lol at the Lotsb being overrated comment. I at least take pride that i loved it before coming to the boards, people these days change opinions on what they like when they see other people's input.

They built up the Shador Broker lore in 2 games and a couple of books/comics and in the end it came together beautifully. Never underestimate the Lotsb!

Haven't played omega and probably won't buy it. I've bought every major DLC mission since Pinnacle Station way back in ME1. But since i was so disappointed with the ending and Leviathans incoherent nonsense, i'll just resort to the tubes for now.

You know your comment would have more impact if your picture wasn't of Liara since that whole DLC was a Liara love fest and Truly Overrated

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No squad members can join you and Nyreen dies. As if ME3's depressing ending wasn't enough. T^T
and $15 was too much. It was a $9 DLC.

The kiss was nice though, but my Shepard is gay, so it wasn't special or anything. :P

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Adomas wrote...
Unless I missed, omega did not have much of any soundtrack, just some bits of music. I missed that one most during Aria's speeches of inspiration for Omega. A good bit of uplifting music could move a planet here.

It was lacking in foley, music and the lack of walla and harumpf from the crowd during Aria's return speech made it seem like she was shouting at the mirror: "You talkin' to me?!!"

Adomas wrote...
Then I get back to the Normandy, and everyone is "You were out? never noticed", I could only say "Yeah, I was just fighting a buttload of cerberus troops, some reaper atrocities, and listening to women bickering, and no one came to help?! Maybe some angry batarian abducted me.." (for those who did not play - this DIDN'T happen)

XD!!!

Liara: "Oh... Shepard."
FemShep: "I, uh-"
Liara: "Went off with Aria to conquer Omega which dramatically increased our eezo supply and crippled Cerberus' ability to operate in the Terminus?"
FemShep: * o_O * "Oh, yeah: THAT Omnipresent Liara..."
Liara: * >-0 * "Well. I guess you'll never find out what happens when two strong Asari embrace the same being at once since you seem to be needing to keep SECRETS FROM THE SECRET KEEPER!!!"
FemShep: "...I blew it, huh?"
Liara: *clenched teeth* "Inconsiderate bag of di**s!!..."
FemShep: * |-{ * *turns to leave*
*hatch opens*
Gliph: "Please, enjoy your day!!"
FemShep: * |-{ * *hangs head*

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Crypticqa wrote...

I mean, compared to Shadow broker.

Was it because it has bad story? (helping Liara to kill Shadow Broker is equally bad story),  too much fighting? (So instead of killing shadow broker agents,we kill Cerberus- seems pretty much the same to me) or minimum choices? Well exuse me, but Shadow broker had none, in Omega you have at least some.

Not to mention Omega took me more time than LoTSB, we get new weapons and mods and 2 new squad mates.
I dont really get why it is so worse according to some people.

Why ? :/


Without the hate, BSN would be an echoing graveyard, with only the few remaining battered "biodroids" wandering aimlessly posting endless sad, sad pictures of Tali's and Miranda's asses.

Without hate, there is no BSN.  Without BSN, there can be no ME3 flagellation.

Without that, what is the point to a True Fan's life?

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Why? Because of jaded Mass Effect fans infesting this board with their drivel. That's pretty much the reason.


Bingo.

On the internet you either hate or you love. The majority of those that come in between just get on with something else, or occasionally glance at the news.

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A reason
Omega was a part of the original game(like From Ashes), then they removed it for a bug.....shouldn't it be free now?
BW:Nope, cuz......cuz......look a better ending*run away*

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Who wants to spend that kind of money for a glorified single player map pack

Pathetic