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[Karrie788]

Eterna5 wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

1200 points for an okay DLC with no replayability... yeah, I can see why people hate it.

Plus they kill off the best character.

Why is there no replayability? It has 3 different outcomes and the characters change depending on how your Shepard interacts with them. 

I know, but the outcomes barely affect anything at all. I didn't feel the "big choice" you had to make had actual consequences - or at least consequences you got to see.

[corporal doody]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Nyreen's death has got to be the most anti-climatic sacrifice I've ever seen. There was literally no point to it. Hamfisting sacrifice into something just for the sake of having sacrifice in something is wack.

Watch the scene again...she gets overwhelmed, so instead of being surronded and killed, she takes out the entire pack and clears the way for Aria.

Nevermind the scene before with Aria chastising her for her fear of adjutants.

Why not throw her grenade belt and I don't know, use her bubble of doom to protect her and the civilians?

Watch again, she succeeded at saving the remaining civilians...notice how SIX adjutants surround her, some which turn to her after killing some of the batarians. She is trapped, plain and simple.

Then why not throw the belt of grenades and use her bubble of doom to protect herself? Even if the nades don't take out all of them she knew reinforcements were on the way.

"It had to be her. Only way to be sure."

[Ryoten]

txgoldrush wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
ME1, true to Drew K style, is RIDDLED with contrivances and coincidences, don't get me started.

And ME2 OPENS with a Deus Ex Machina.

Well ME3 has them all beat so it's the king of crap.

Wrong...the Crucible is thematically consistant with the series and introduced logically, in fact consistant with Liara's goals when she became the Broker in ME2.

Not to say that ME3 does not have its contrived parts, but it is nowhere near as bad as ME1 was, where elements of the story were just created out of the air like the Cipher and Tali's intro, not to mention Vigil.

Are you out of your mind?!  Seriously.  This is the second thread ive read your crap in.  The last one was you complaining about people who hate the ending.  Your ideologies are so misconstruted that it made me wonder if we were even living in the same universal time line.  The crucible is nothing more than a Macguffin. And a poor one at that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin . 

Modifié par Ryoten, 28 novembre 2012 - 07:14 .

[txgoldrush]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Nyreen's death has got to be the most anti-climatic sacrifice I've ever seen. There was literally no point to it. Hamfisting sacrifice into something just for the sake of having sacrifice in something is wack.

Watch the scene again...she gets overwhelmed, so instead of being surronded and killed, she takes out the entire pack and clears the way for Aria.

Nevermind the scene before with Aria chastising her for her fear of adjutants.

Why not throw her grenade belt and I don't know, use her bubble of doom to protect her and the civilians?

Watch again, she succeeded at saving the remaining civilians...notice how SIX adjutants surround her, some which turn to her after killing some of the batarians. She is trapped, plain and simple.

Then why not throw the belt of grenades and use her bubble of doom to protect herself? Even if the nades don't take out all of them she knew reinforcements were on the way.

No, she did not know reinforcements were on the way.

Thats the sad part, Aria walks into this.

[Wowky]

Personally, I hated it because it did not provide enough speculations.

[txgoldrush]

Ryoten wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
ME1, true to Drew K style, is RIDDLED with contrivances and coincidences, don't get me started.

And ME2 OPENS with a Deus Ex Machina.

Well ME3 has them all beat so it's the king of crap.

Wrong...the Crucible is thematically consistant with the series and introduced logically, in fact consistant with Liara's goals when she became the Broker in ME2.

Not to say that ME3 does not have its contrived parts, but it is nowhere near as bad as ME1 was, where elements of the story were just created out of the air like the Cipher and Tali's intro, not to mention Vigil.

Are you out of your mind?!  Seriously.  This is the second thread ive read your crap in.  The last one was you complaining about people who hate the ending.  Your ideologies are so misconstruted that it made me wonder if we were even living in the same universal time line.  The crucible is nothing more than a Macguffin. And a poor one at that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin . 

Or maybe you are IGNORING THE LORE that CONTRADICTS YOUR CRITICISMS!!!!!

The Crucible is a MacGuffin, but that does not mean its contrived.

[vivanto]

My biggest gripe about omega is the awful voice acting of Carrie Anne Moss coupled with the cheesy lines they've given her, hard to tell if she couldn't do it properly because of the stupid script or she's just that bad anyway.

Well, there's other problems too, but this one really puts me off.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

I think I'm just going to retcon nyreen's death in my imagination land.

[txgoldrush]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Even if it was the only way, I wasn't feeling it. It didn't really have that Mordin or Leigon quality to it. Maybe it's because we only knew her for a few hours.

Tarquins and Rila's were also powerful even though you barely knew them.....

[corporal doody]

Karrie788 wrote...

Eterna5 wrote...

Karrie788 wrote...

1200 points for an okay DLC with no replayability... yeah, I can see why people hate it.

Plus they kill off the best character.

Why is there no replayability? It has 3 different outcomes and the characters change depending on how your Shepard interacts with them. 

I know, but the outcomes barely affect anything at all. I didn't feel the "big choice" you had to make had actual consequences - or at least consequences you got to see.

they need to make a game where EVERY choice effects your character. The choices are sooooo mundane.

wake up and eat a slab of beef and a roll. Did you choose to smell the meat first? if no....your character gets diarrhea several hours later. Do you treat the diarrhea or hope it passes?  with treatment you are out of action for a day or two. without you get dysentery.  You try to treat the dehydration....you get sick because the water wasnt clean.


a game i would not play.



i forgot what the motive of this post...but i typed it out..SO NOW YOU CAN READ IT!!

[d-boy15]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Even if it was the only way, I wasn't feeling it. It didn't really have that Mordin or Leigon quality to it. Maybe it's because we only knew her for a few hours.

well, I know victus only less than hour but his death has more meaning than nyreen (at least for me...)

I think it's about quality of writing.

Modifié par d-boy15, 28 novembre 2012 - 07:19 .

[Ryoten]

txgoldrush wrote...

Ryoten wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Ticonderoga117 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...
ME1, true to Drew K style, is RIDDLED with contrivances and coincidences, don't get me started.

And ME2 OPENS with a Deus Ex Machina.

Well ME3 has them all beat so it's the king of crap.

Wrong...the Crucible is thematically consistant with the series and introduced logically, in fact consistant with Liara's goals when she became the Broker in ME2.

Not to say that ME3 does not have its contrived parts, but it is nowhere near as bad as ME1 was, where elements of the story were just created out of the air like the Cipher and Tali's intro, not to mention Vigil.

Are you out of your mind?!  Seriously.  This is the second thread ive read your crap in.  The last one was you complaining about people who hate the ending.  Your ideologies are so misconstruted that it made me wonder if we were even living in the same universal time line.  The crucible is nothing more than a Macguffin. And a poor one at that. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MacGuffin . 

Or maybe you are IGNORING THE LORE that CONTRADICTS YOUR CRITICISMS!!!!!

The Crucible is a MacGuffin, but that does not mean its contrived.

dude, you're the one ignoring the lore that contradicts your own criticisms.  You're off acting as preacher and ignoring actual facts people are throwing at you like the mars archives which was under alliance control for years.  I'm sorry, you're bat **** crazy, or are so self absorbed in your own bull****, that you cant see past your self contrived "throne" of interpretations. 

[corporal doody]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Even if it was the only way, I wasn't feeling it. It didn't really have that Mordin or Leigon quality to it. Maybe it's because we only knew her for a few hours.

yeah...but we all knew she was paragon to the core and spoke about looking out for the civilians first and foremost.




someone referred to her as ME's Woman in the Refrigerator.  I wanted to beat the person senseless cuz dude was simplifying it unduly...all cuz he saw the term in wikipedia.

PFFT!

Modifié par corporal doody, 28 novembre 2012 - 07:20 .

[txgoldrush]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Even if it was the only way, I wasn't feeling it. It didn't really have that Mordin or Leigon quality to it. Maybe it's because we only knew her for a few hours.

Tarquins and Rila's were also powerful even though you barely knew them.....

True enough. Maybe I needed to play it to experience the emotion.

Try and think of it through Aria's point of view, not Shepards.

I do think Bioware do great jobs fleshing out characters that appear briefly....even like Ann Bryson, who appears for like 5 minutes.

[txgoldrush]

The Mad Hanar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

The Mad Hanar wrote...

Even if it was the only way, I wasn't feeling it. It didn't really have that Mordin or Leigon quality to it. Maybe it's because we only knew her for a few hours.

Tarquins and Rila's were also powerful even though you barely knew them.....

True enough. Maybe I needed to play it to experience the emotion.

Try and think of it through Aria's point of view, not Shepards.

I do think Bioware do great jobs fleshing out characters that appear briefly....even like Ann Bryson, who appears for like 5 minutes.

Maybe that's where the disconnect comes from. It's hard to feel bad for Aria. I get that she lost the person closest to her, but all she did was use her. You don't know what you got til it's gone.

For Paragon...the entire Omega storyline was about how Aria came to view peoples lives with more value and I think Nyreen and Shepard showed her this.

This DLC may have the best conflict between Paragon and Renegade in the series...as Nyreen and Aria represnted those moralities respectively.

I have not played Renegade yet.

[VettoRyouzou]

Wow amusing.. the mod locks the "older thread" for the one named in there favor.. shocking.

[10K]

I love it, though it was a bit overpriced. But besides that I had a blast. Bioware you did a great job. WOOTS!! for you.

[Ausstig]

Because Aria is a druglord crime boss and taking time off from the WAR WITH THE REAPERS to help her kill cerberus people so she can get her stuff back is stupid.

1. Cerberus; in the game way to Fing much already, don't need more.

2. There was a reason to help Liara. YOU WEREN'T FIGHTING A FUING WAR!!!!

also so very price and the whole ending thing.

God every time she talks I just want shoot her. 

Modifié par Ausstig, 28 novembre 2012 - 08:04 .

[RACDB]

Yep. $14.99 was a bit excessive but at the same time I chose to spend that amount. I could have just said no and waited. Glad I didn't as it is for me, the best ME3 DLC so far.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Crypticqa wrote...

I mean, compared to Shadow broker.

Was it because it has bad story? (helping Liara to kill Shadow Broker is equally bad story),  too much fighting? (So instead of killing shadow broker agents,we kill Cerberus- seems pretty much the same to me) or minimum choices? Well exuse me, but Shadow broker had none, in Omega you have at least some.

Not to mention Omega took me more time than LoTSB, we get new weapons and mods and 2 new squad mates.
I dont really get why it is so worse according to some people.

Why ? :/

Because...

The characters and their personal conflicts are not interesting enough.
The story itself is boring.
The atmosphere is average.
The voice acting is below average for Bioware (Aria's VA just sounds bored).
The action set-pieces are nothing to write home about.
The soundtrack is terrible.

In short. It wanted to have the character focus of LOTSB, but failed at it. It did not have the story nor the atmosphere like Overlord or Leviathan. Neither did it have the memorable last choice of BDTS. It feels like a longer version of Arrival, but even Arrival had some merit to it with the soundtrack.

It was not bad per say, but the worse kind of average.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 28 novembre 2012 - 07:57 .