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[sandboxgod]

 Instead of feeling like an Infiltrator that has biotics instead she just feels like an Asari biotic that can cloak if you follow

Modifié par sandboxgod, 28 novembre 2012 - 05:45 .

[Zero132132]

The OP should really change the title to specify that only weapon damage is broken.

[CmnDwnWrkn]

Stahlhammer wrote...

 That's what you get for putting TC on Asaris.. It's against space magic rules. 

[Dorje Sylas]

Just to be clear, while Huntress TC doesn't boost weapon damage, every last boost it gives goes into power damage.

That's nearly doubling the damage of powers throw while under TC... for the duration of their effect. Meaning double damage Dark Channel, Double Damage Warp. Plus ya know some tactical cloaking as an option.

While this may not be "as intended" or shown in the tool tips this seems like a different way to use an Infultrator. One that power spams from TC instead of weapon spams

That though that begs the question, is the evolution 6 (25% more biotic damage) worth it compared to ~2.5 second Biotic Explosions coming off evolution 5 (fire second power). IMO it would depend how laggy you are and how reliably you can land both DC then Warp.

[BjornDaDwarf]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

 That's what you get for putting TC on Asaris.. It's against space magic rules. 

The universe punishes you for trying to hide the blue bumbum?

[BjornDaDwarf]

Dorje Sylas wrote...

Just to be clear, while Huntress TC doesn't boost weapon damage, every last boost it gives goes into power damage.

That's nearly doubling the damage of powers throw while under TC... for the duration of their effect. Meaning double damage Dark Channel, Double Damage Warp. Plus ya know some tactical cloaking as an option.

While this may not be "as intended" or shown in the tool tips this seems like a different way to use an Infultrator. One that power spams from TC instead of weapon spams

That though that begs the question, is the evolution 6 (25% more biotic damage) worth it compared to ~2.5 second Biotic Explosions coming off evolution 5 (fire second power). IMO it would depend how laggy you are and how reliably you can land both DC then Warp.

I think the Evo 6 only applies during cloak and it's only additive, so it's not actually very valuable. 

[Flambrose]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Dorje Sylas wrote...

Just to be clear, while Huntress TC doesn't boost weapon damage, every last boost it gives goes into power damage.

That's nearly doubling the damage of powers throw while under TC... for the duration of their effect. Meaning double damage Dark Channel, Double Damage Warp. Plus ya know some tactical cloaking as an option.

While this may not be "as intended" or shown in the tool tips this seems like a different way to use an Infultrator. One that power spams from TC instead of weapon spams

That though that begs the question, is the evolution 6 (25% more biotic damage) worth it compared to ~2.5 second Biotic Explosions coming off evolution 5 (fire second power). IMO it would depend how laggy you are and how reliably you can land both DC then Warp.

I think the Evo 6 only applies during cloak and it's only additive, so it's not actually very valuable. 

Evo 6 as well as the rest of TC applies to dark channel for its entire duration. The numbers are in the testing thread if you want proof.

[shadowkinz]

this is the 12th thread on this haha..

either way she's top tier man.. TCDC hits tremendously hard, please try it =P

[Big Jack Shepard]

shadowkinz wrote...

this is the 12th thread on this haha..

either way she's top tier man.. TCDC hits tremendously hard, please try it =P

No, this was the 1st thread.

Go act cool somewhere else, kid.

[najzere]

I'm interested in whether this is actually a bug or just a misconception on the players' part. It could be that the only change needed is to change the evo 4 name from Damage to Power Damage.

Zero132132 wrote...
The OP should really change the title to specify that only weapon damage is broken.

Looks like he did and changed "sight" to "sigh", which was even more bothersome to me.

Modifié par najzere, 28 novembre 2012 - 05:15 .

[BjornDaDwarf]

Flambrose wrote...

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Dorje Sylas wrote...

Just to be clear, while Huntress TC doesn't boost weapon damage, every last boost it gives goes into power damage.

That's nearly doubling the damage of powers throw while under TC... for the duration of their effect. Meaning double damage Dark Channel, Double Damage Warp. Plus ya know some tactical cloaking as an option.

While this may not be "as intended" or shown in the tool tips this seems like a different way to use an Infultrator. One that power spams from TC instead of weapon spams

That though that begs the question, is the evolution 6 (25% more biotic damage) worth it compared to ~2.5 second Biotic Explosions coming off evolution 5 (fire second power). IMO it would depend how laggy you are and how reliably you can land both DC then Warp.

I think the Evo 6 only applies during cloak and it's only additive, so it's not actually very valuable. 

Evo 6 as well as the rest of TC applies to dark channel for its entire duration. The numbers are in the testing thread if you want proof.

Ah, I see, I misread Corlist's summary on the issues:

"1) AI's Tactical Cloak power damage bonus is additive. The bonus is only applied in cloak."

I took that to mean that the Evo 6 was only applied during cloak (like it didn't carry past that).  But I see that he meant that it didn't have a time component like the AR Evo 6 on the Ghost.  

[CmnDwnWrkn]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

Stahlhammer wrote...

 That's what you get for putting TC on Asaris.. It's against space magic rules. 

The universe punishes you for trying to hide the blue bumbum?

It ALWAYS does.  As it should.

[Flambrose]

najzere wrote...

I'm interested in whether this is actually a bug or just a misconception on the players' part. It could be that the only change needed is to change the evo 4 name from Damage to Power Damage.

It doesn't seem like this was intentional. All other infiltrators get the damage boost to everything (powers, melee, weapons). There's no reason for only the asari to not have weapon damage. She's pretty underwhelming without the weapon damage bonus.

[BjornDaDwarf]

MastahDisastah wrote...

has anyone sent a pm to lord Fagnan already?

I assumed that he had been spammed with PMs, so didn't send one.

[mrcanada]

shadowkinz wrote...

this is the 12th thread on this haha..

either way she's top tier man.. TCDC hits tremendously hard, please try it =P

She's top tier because of warp+incendiary, not because of lolTC and Dark Channel. Play with good players and this won't do a thing.

[gw2005]

Hardcoresalmon wrote...

Proof: Link

LOL, glad I haven't started using it yet.

[dnapayne]

Retracted*

Modifié par dnapayne, 28 novembre 2012 - 07:38 .

[gw2005]

Just waiting for official response

anytime now...

anytime...

[dnapayne]

Retracted*

Modifié par dnapayne, 28 novembre 2012 - 07:39 .

[najzere]

Even one point in every other Tactical Cloak gives 40% to damage (weapons, powers, melee). Doesn't have anything to do with the name of evo 6.

[Arctican]

mrcanada wrote...

shadowkinz wrote...

this is the 12th thread on this haha..

either way she's top tier man.. TCDC hits tremendously hard, please try it =P

She's top tier because of warp+incendiary, not because of lolTC and Dark Channel. Play with good players and this won't do a thing.

Not just because of Warp+ Incendiary. Warp Ammo+biotics = 120% weapons damage. That's a pretty big bonus even with the bugged TC and not including passives or equipment.

[JSLfromBx]

shadowkinz wrote...

this is the 12th thread on this haha..

either way she's top tier man.. TCDC hits tremendously hard, please try it =P

DC is a pieces of trash, the damage is just insulting, even boosted by TC it's still junk, you' ll be lucky if you can do 500 dps with DC. DC is a BE primer and that's it.

A good PPR destroyer will do over 4000 dps without breaking a sweat. If you think DC hits hard, you're one hell of a terrible player.

And like Big Shep said this thread was the first on the issue, everyone one else was too busy abusing the free power evolution exploit on TC to spamm BE left and right and beat platinum match with little to no effort.

[bnm73]

Happened with the Vorcha Submission net, too, if you recall.

[FellowMusicFan]

To the people saying her Tac Cloak may only do Power Damage as a feature I might have believed this if it weren't for the fact that her recharge evolution in track 5 wasn't ALSO bugged. It doesn't improve her recharge time at all. Also, it clearly says 80% (or 40% base depending on your evolution choices) damage like every other Tac Cloak. That has always applied to weapon, powers, and melee. Now, they've never been really clear in their wording such as the "lift" effect actually meaning BE primed or some of the weekend operations on here but this is just giving them too much credit. The damage not being applied to her weapons is CLEARLY a bug. If it wasn't they would've replied by now by making a simple clarification.