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[Urdnot Trex]

where you at BW? come on admit your mistakes, we'll forgive you!

[T41rdEye]

You people are ruthless. It will be fixed next week just like the Vorchaneer was.

I'm not a game-design expert by any means, but BW's post-launch support of this "tacked on" MP is certainly remarkable. There are bugs like this in any game, ever made. Cry like a baby if you want, but it won't change how long it takes them to fix it. Most devs say "ehhh, deal wit it."

Also crying about the weekly releases was sooo 6 weeks ago. The adults have gotten over it.

LOL at the people already saying the class sucks. Predictable.

[Atheosis]

Me1mN0t wrote...

You people are ruthless. It will be fixed next week just like the Vorchaneer was.

I'm not a game-design expert by any means, but BW's post-launch support of this "tacked on" MP is certainly remarkable. There are bugs like this in any game, ever made. Cry like a baby if you want, but it won't change how long it takes them to fix it. Most devs say "ehhh, deal wit it."

Also crying about the weekly releases was sooo 6 weeks ago. The adults have gotten over it.

LOL at the people already saying the class sucks. Predictable.

Seeing as they haven't commented on the issue once, assuming they will fix it next Tuesday is laughably optimistic.

[corporal doody]

mhmm....that is assuming it is indeed a glitch.

but if we go by all the "OUTRAGE" you would swear BW was trying to cover up a murder.

[BjornDaDwarf]

Urdnot Trex wrote...

where you at BW? come on admit your mistakes, we'll forgive you!

[squidney2k1]

Me1mN0t wrote...

You people are ruthless. It will be fixed next week just like the Vorchaneer was... 

Assumptions are dangerous. Especially since it's been proven in the past that not everything can be fixed with a Weekly Balance Change. The problem with the Vorchaneer having the wrong damage stats was fixed in a balance update, but that was still the correct stats (at the time) being applied overall. Whereas this situation with the Huntress is a bug where a power stat is not being applied at all. That is what the problem was with the Krogan's Rage power, and that required an actual patch.

Until we hear a response from Bioware, we don't know if a balance update can/will fix this. 

[Zero132132]

Me1mN0t wrote...

You people are ruthless. It will be fixed next week just like the Vorchaneer was.

I'm not a game-design expert by any means, but BW's post-launch support of this "tacked on" MP is certainly remarkable. There are bugs like this in any game, ever made. Cry like a baby if you want, but it won't change how long it takes them to fix it. Most devs say "ehhh, deal wit it."

Also crying about the weekly releases was sooo 6 weeks ago. The adults have gotten over it.

LOL at the people already saying the class sucks. Predictable.

Vorcha Engineer bit was different. Since each DLC has to be able to stand on its own, they had to include a second version of Submmission Net for characters from this DLC. They just missed changing the server-side values for that skill to be the same as the Batarian's.

Tactical Cloak is an entirely different power. It's pretty unlikely that they'll be able to tweak a few server-side values for this kind of change, because there's no value stored for what is and isn't boosted by tactical cloak. I'm 90% sure that they won't be able to fix this server-side, and that this power is going to remain broken until there's a patch.

So really, why would a simple "We've acknowledged the problem, we're working on it" be such a problem? Vorcha Engineer's submission net was responded to quickly. Wish they'd at least say SOMETHING here.

Modifié par Zero132132, 29 novembre 2012 - 05:26 .

[etm125]

Skimmed through the responses here. have we considered it is in fact intentional and what they flubbed is the tooltip description? What if she will never be changed?

[Zero132132]

etm125 wrote...

Skimmed through the responses here. have we considered it is in fact intentional and what they flubbed is the tooltip description? What if she will never be changed?

Folks have considered it, but I think most of us just figure that that can't have realistically been the intention. The damage applies to melee and powers, just not weapons. With a weapon damage boost, she could be very, very effective. There might be ways to make her effective now, but she's several levels below every other infiltrator.

[corporal doody]

Zero132132 wrote...

etm125 wrote...

Skimmed through the responses here. have we considered it is in fact intentional and what they flubbed is the tooltip description? What if she will never be changed?

Folks have considered it, but I think most of us just figure that that can't have realistically been the intention. The damage applies to melee and powers, just not weapons. With a weapon damage boost, she could be very, very effective. There might be ways to make her effective now, but she's several levels below every other infiltrator.

soooo....she should play just like everyother Infiltrator....even though she has the best power bonuses available at this point?

TBH...im glad...cuz now she is just as distinct in this class as the Shadow is.

if i was concerned about weapon bonuses i would go ahead and play one of the other infiltrators.


but yeah...If BW said something...it would stop all these damned "GLITCH" threads....leaving us with "WAHH TC no give weapon bonus" threads.


just my opinion of course

[Zero132132]

corporal doody wrote...

soooo....she should play just like everyother Infiltrator....even though she has the best power bonuses available at this point?

No, she should just be useful. None of her skills are even the kinds of powers that do good damage. There are better options if you want biotic powers that exist primarily as damage boosters. 

corporal doody wrote...

TBH...im glad...cuz now she is just as distinct in this class as the Shadow is.

No, the Shadow is effective, and the only thing about the Shadow that doesn't work is Shadow Strike against Atlases.

corporal doody wrote...

if i was concerned about weapon bonuses i would go ahead and play one of the other infiltrators.

Good for you, I guess? I don't like the idea of any class in the game actually being genuinely bad. I'd rather have more useful options, because useful things end up getting used. Useless things generally don't.

corporal doody wrote...

but yeah...If BW said something...it would stop all these damned "GLITCH" threads....leaving us with "WAHH TC no give weapon bonus" threads.

just my opinion of course

I could tell. Sure as hell weren't any facts there, and it fits with other silly **** you've said on BSN.

[sandboxgod]

 I cant imagine what this class will be like if they ever add on weapon bonuses. I've been knocking out 120k on average Gold games with PUGs. Running something like a 6/6/6/5/3 build (choose power dmg for my rank 6 evo) with any decent SMG like a Hurricane or Collector SMG. I got very used to my glass cannon GI. So this Asari seems like a tank in comparison

[Yamato069]

I don't have time to read the 15 pages so I'm not sure if someone mentioned this. My first thought when I saw this class was, "holy crap, cloak damage boost with biotic explosions?" I feel like the biotic explosion doesn't receive any help from the cloak damage. I cloak, use dark channel, remain in cloak due to evolution 6, break cloak by casting warp, and the biotic explosion was crap. If I recall correctly, I did it on a centurion on gold and I think it still had over half health left. Maybe I'm missing some detail that explains this lol.

Modifié par Yamato069, 29 novembre 2012 - 07:44 .

[Dorje Sylas]

Atheosis wrote...

This thread still doesn't have an official response? Wow...

Try spamming everyone on the Dev team with PMs containing lots of swear words. That's what it took to get an official response to the pain inducing Geth Hunter Vision after more then 6 months.

[tonnactus]

Yamato069 wrote...

I don't have time to read the 15 pages so I'm not sure if someone mentioned this. My first thought when I saw this class was, "holy crap, cloak damage boost with biotic explosions?" I feel like the biotic explosion doesn't receive any help from the cloak damage. I cloak, use dark channel, remain in cloak due to evolution 6, break cloak by casting warp, and the biotic explosion was crap. If I recall correctly, I did it on a centurion on gold and I think it still had over half health left. Maybe I'm missing some detail that explains this lol.

Biotic explosions are not affected by power damage increase(not even those in the passive),only by the rank of the two powers.

All it does is to increase the damage of powers like warp. Thats it.
But Dark Channel boosted with cloak destroys phantoms very fast. Its not even necessary to shoot them after cast it on them.

Modifié par tonnactus, 29 novembre 2012 - 08:15 .

[Star fury]

Any comment from devs?

[RaptorSolutions]

Hope they fix this soon. Its painful seeing my Widow/Black Widow not one shot unshielded mooks...

On the other hand, I no longer feel compelled to wait for cloak CD to finish eventhough I RCed the gun earlier.

[Yamato069]

tonnactus wrote...

Yamato069 wrote...

I don't have time to read the 15 pages so I'm not sure if someone mentioned this. My first thought when I saw this class was, "holy crap, cloak damage boost with biotic explosions?" I feel like the biotic explosion doesn't receive any help from the cloak damage. I cloak, use dark channel, remain in cloak due to evolution 6, break cloak by casting warp, and the biotic explosion was crap. If I recall correctly, I did it on a centurion on gold and I think it still had over half health left. Maybe I'm missing some detail that explains this lol.

Biotic explosions are not affected by power damage increase(not even those in the passive),only by the rank of the two powers.

All it does is to increase the damage of powers like warp. Thats it.
But Dark Channel boosted with cloak destroys phantoms very fast. Its not even necessary to shoot them after cast it on them.

Ah, I see. I figured that was probably the underlying detail. Thanks.

[Edelas_rus]

There is still no official information from bioware about this problem? There were enough time to react.

[staindgrey]

Zero132132 wrote...

etm125 wrote...

Skimmed through the responses here. have we considered it is in fact intentional and what they flubbed is the tooltip description? What if she will never be changed?

Folks have considered it, but I think most of us just figure that that can't have realistically been the intention. The damage applies to melee and powers, just not weapons. With a weapon damage boost, she could be very, very effective. There might be ways to make her effective now, but she's several levels below every other infiltrator.

This is what I fail to understand.

As far as infiltrators go, she has the most potent powers. Warp is powerful and has DoT, while DC even more so. You aren't going for BEs so much as raw DPS via DoT. There's already been a value test by one of the users here (I wish I knew where it was so I could link it) that determined that not only was TC properly increasing power damage, but that it increased the DoT damage throughout the duration regardless of how long the player stays cloaked, so long as it isn't interrupted by a BE.

So, she's got two of the strongest biotic powers in the game. She can keep bosses' barriers/shields from regenerating. She does damage to things she may not have even looked at via DC. She gets a power bonus for TC, thus making these powers even more potent, and, you know, it's TC, for revives/objectives/etc. And you don't ever have to spec DC/Warp for recharge speed because TC will negate any issues with that, meaning she can cast nearly as quickly as the basic Asari Adept while carrying a Widow.

I may not be getting a weapon damage bonus, but I'm killing a whole lot of ****. I've yet to not top the scoreboard on Gold so far since she's been released. 

[DopedGoat84]

I really support BW but come on.. This is the easiest mechanic to test in the game.

I've actually never known such a broken game. Maybe they all just sit in the office sipping vodka laughing at us mugs.

[dimeonwu]

Hardcoresalmon wrote...

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[Lexa_D]

corporal doody wrote...

TBH...im glad...cuz now she is just as distinct in this class as the Shadow is. 

if i was concerned about weapon bonuses i would go ahead and play one of the other infiltrators.

good for you! Now go out there and test her on Platinum.

[corporal doody]

Zero132132 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

soooo....she should play just like everyother Infiltrator....even though she has the best power bonuses available at this point?

No, she should just be useful. cuz she aint atm?? None of her skills are even the kinds of powers that do good damage. There are better options if you want biotic powers that exist primarily as damage boosters. in your opinion she has the powers she has....that aint changing.

corporal doody wrote...

TBH...im glad...cuz now she is just as distinct in this class as the Shadow is.

No, the Shadow is effective, and the only thing about the Shadow that doesn't work is Shadow Strike against Atlases.[color=rgb(255, 0, 0)"> <span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0)]k...DISTINCT. the shadow, compared to the rest of the infiltrators, just like the  Huntress, IS DISTINCT.  she plays different...you know what...you look up the word distinct for me.[/color]

corporal doody wrote...

if i was concerned about weapon bonuses i would go ahead and play one of the other infiltrators.

Good for you, I guess? I don't like the idea of any class in the game actually being genuinely bad. I'd rather have more useful options, because useful things end up getting used. Useless things generally don't. [color="#ff0000"] I.E., you dont like her. I get it.[/color]

corporal doody wrote...

but yeah...If BW said something...it would stop all these damned "GLITCH" threads....leaving us with "WAHH TC no give weapon bonus" threads.

just my opinion of course

I could tell. Sure as hell weren't any facts there, and it fits with other silly **** you've said on BSN. [color="#ff0000"]HAHAHAHA. Roger that[/color]

HOLY CRAP......you picked apart my post like a champ....and filled it WITH WHINE.

just say you dont like the asari huntress and move on.....cuz that all that sounds like there beef cake.

you have fun with YOUR idea of facts.  HAHAHAHA facts.   you know what.....lemme know when you find some.

Modifié par corporal doody, 29 novembre 2012 - 09:35 .

[corporal doody]

Lexa_D wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

TBH...im glad...cuz now she is just as distinct in this class as the Shadow is. 

if i was concerned about weapon bonuses i would go ahead and play one of the other infiltrators.

good for you! Now go out there and test her on Platinum.

so in your opinion...the asari huntress will only be viable in platinum IF the WEAPON damage bonus from TC worked?