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[AbhijitSM]

etm125 wrote...

How on god's green earth has this not gotten an official response?

It's pretty clear that this need's fixing but maybe BW don't know how without patching it?? From the looks of it this won't be fixed for months if not possible with the balance/server side change's

[BjornDaDwarf]

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Eh, not butthurt by a "balanced" infiltrator, annoyed at the lack of response about the issue.  There is no reason to believe it was intentional, and yet what appears to be a major bug is completely ignored.

[Feneckus]

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Almoust sounds like you are advocating removal of damage bonuses from cloak for all the other infiltrators too ...

Can other infiltrators kill a Gold Brute just by pressing two buttons (TC + DC) ?

Can other infiltrators kill a Banshee just by shooting at it once and pressing two buttons ?

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?

In the time span it takes for DC to do all of those things, you can do the same amount or more damage to multiple targets by either charging and throwing 4 lift grenades or stacking Reave.  

That's totally relevant since, you know, the Huntress has to stay behind cover and do nothing for Dark Channel to do its damage 

Modifié par Feneckus, 30 novembre 2012 - 04:14 .

[UKStory135]

BjornDaDwarf wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Eh, not butthurt by a "balanced" infiltrator, annoyed at the lack of response about the issue.  There is no reason to believe it was intentional, and yet what appears to be a major bug is completely ignored.

If she is balanced then all of the other Asari, all of the Infiltrators, most of the Sentinels, and most of the Adepts are super OP.  I still don't know why they gave her a different TC in the first place.  Best case scenario, that only gives you about an 83 dps boost on a power that can only be active on one target at a time.

[UKStory135]

Feneckus wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Almoust sounds like you are advocating removal of damage bonuses from cloak for all the other infiltrators too ...

Can other infiltrators kill a Gold Brute just by pressing two buttons (TC + DC) ?

Can other infiltrators kill a Banshee just by shooting at it once and pressing two buttons ?

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?

In the time span it takes for DC to do all of those things, you can do the same amount or more damage to multiple targets by either charging and throwing 4 lift grenades or stacking Reave.  

That's totally relevant since, you know, the Huntress has to stay behind cover and do nothing for Dark Channel to do its damage 

Do you serioulsy want to just sit in cover and kill only one target at a time?

[unclemonster]

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

I do respect your opinions BUT...
this comment is just WRONG!
the kit is broken and all we are asking for is a dev response
I have been patiently awaiting this character since it was announced
It is disappointing how it is being (not) handled

[CmnDwnWrkn]

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Almoust sounds like you are advocating removal of damage bonuses from cloak for all the other infiltrators too ...

Can other infiltrators kill a Gold Brute just by pressing two buttons (TC + DC) ?

Can other infiltrators kill a Banshee just by shooting at it once and pressing two buttons ?

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?

In the time span it takes for DC to do all of those things, you can do the same amount or more damage to multiple targets by either charging and throwing 4 lift grenades or stacking Reave.  

That's totally relevant since, you know, the Huntress has to stay behind cover and do nothing for Dark Channel to do its damage 

Do you serioulsy want to just sit in cover and kill only one target at a time?

The point is - you can cast DC and it deals damage over time that doesn't require your active participation.  This allows you to then deal damage simultanously in a different way.  For example, cast DC to deal with that group of Cannibals over there, and then focus on taking down the Brute with Warp and weapon fire.  

[sandboxgod]

If I were a BioWare dev and I knew this issue would take a patch to fix (and I knew EA/BioWare is not willing to pay M$$/Sony to release another patch anytime soon) then I would try to fix what I could in that live database. Maybe I would give her some enhanced weapon bonuses. 

I wonder if they have chosen to remain silent until they have firmly decided on an approach. This way you do not make a promise you cannot deliver upon

Would have been awesome, as stated many times, they would at least say, "We are aware of this issue."

edit- Granted, she is very powerful. I took top score last night in an 'organized' group. Was using all my best consumables though (L4). Just wish I knew if I were playing with the finished product or something they consider bugged

Modifié par sandboxgod, 30 novembre 2012 - 04:42 .

[bluebeam]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Almoust sounds like you are advocating removal of damage bonuses from cloak for all the other infiltrators too ...

Can other infiltrators kill a Gold Brute just by pressing two buttons (TC + DC) ?

Can other infiltrators kill a Banshee just by shooting at it once and pressing two buttons ?

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?

In the time span it takes for DC to do all of those things, you can do the same amount or more damage to multiple targets by either charging and throwing 4 lift grenades or stacking Reave.  

That's totally relevant since, you know, the Huntress has to stay behind cover and do nothing for Dark Channel to do its damage 

Do you serioulsy want to just sit in cover and kill only one target at a time?

The point is - you can cast DC and it deals damage over time that doesn't require your active participation.  This allows you to then deal damage simultanously in a different way.  For example, cast DC to deal with that group of Cannibals over there, and then focus on taking down the Brute with Warp and weapon fire.  

And how is that special? The Fury has DC as well and can cast it on a brute while going suicide bomber on mooks because her two other powers can also detonate. The AI can detonate only DC+Warp.
Not to mention that in game it's very unlikely that DC will be left to work for its whole duration.
If TC gave her a buff to BEs, then I'd say it's ok not to have the weapon damage bonus.

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?
Yes, the Shadow. Even more casually, actually. Are you guys going to say she's OP?

[Geek]

peddroelmz wrote...

the fact a proper infiltrator can kill 3-5 brutes in the time it takes TC+DC to kill one might have something to do with it

This right here.

[Feneckus]

This thread is really pathetic.

If we had an Adept with Dark Channel, Warp and whatever, nobody would complain.

We got a class with Dark Channel, Warp and a power that lets you be invisible and that boosts both power and melee damage to insane levels while ignoring cooldown penalties and everyone is butthurt because they were expecting a game-breaking class.

Pathetic.

Modifié par Feneckus, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:23 .

[CmnDwnWrkn]

bluebeam wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Almoust sounds like you are advocating removal of damage bonuses from cloak for all the other infiltrators too ...

Can other infiltrators kill a Gold Brute just by pressing two buttons (TC + DC) ?

Can other infiltrators kill a Banshee just by shooting at it once and pressing two buttons ?

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?

In the time span it takes for DC to do all of those things, you can do the same amount or more damage to multiple targets by either charging and throwing 4 lift grenades or stacking Reave.  

That's totally relevant since, you know, the Huntress has to stay behind cover and do nothing for Dark Channel to do its damage 

Do you serioulsy want to just sit in cover and kill only one target at a time?

The point is - you can cast DC and it deals damage over time that doesn't require your active participation.  This allows you to then deal damage simultanously in a different way.  For example, cast DC to deal with that group of Cannibals over there, and then focus on taking down the Brute with Warp and weapon fire.  

And how is that special? The Fury has DC as well and can cast it on a brute while going suicide bomber on mooks because her two other powers can also detonate. The AI can detonate only DC+Warp.
Not to mention that in game it's very unlikely that DC will be left to work for its whole duration.
If TC gave her a buff to BEs, then I'd say it's ok not to have the weapon damage bonus.

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?
Yes, the Shadow. Even more casually, actually. Are you guys going to say she's OP?

When did I say anything about it being "special"?  I was responding to this odd idea that some people have that using DC is an either/or proposition that somehow prevents you from dealing damage in other ways if you cast it.

For example, people ask the question: "Why would I use DC when I could deal more damage doing X?"  When in reality you can do both.

Feneckus wrote...

This thread is really pathetic.

If we had an Adept with Dark Channel, Warp and whatever, nobody would complain.

We
got a class with Dark Channel, Warp and a power that lets you be
invisible and that boosts both power and melee damage to insane levels
and everyone is butthurt because they were expecting a game-breaking
class.

Pathetic.

Exactly.  I get the same impression - they were expecting their new Asari to be capable of downing an Atlas or Banshee in 1 or 2 seconds and are dissapointed because the Huntress doesn't give them the ability to solo Platinum in 5 minutes.

Modifié par CmnDwnWrkn, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:25 .

[PsychoticBiotic]

Feneckus wrote...

This thread is really pathetic.

If we had an Adept with Dark Channel, Warp and whatever, nobody would complain.

We got a class with Dark Channel, Warp and a power that lets you be invisible and that boosts both power and melee damage to insane levels and everyone is butthurt because they were expecting a game-breaking class.

Pathetic.

Sort of agree, and if this is the way Huntress' cloak is intended to work, them I'd be completely OK with it. It's Bioware's lack of communication that's pathetic.

[Pyth the Bull]

I'm sure they'll fix it.

By removing weapon damage from all the other infiltrators.

[FellowMusicFan]

Feneckus wrote...

This thread is really pathetic.

If we had an Adept with Dark Channel, Warp and whatever, nobody would complain.

We got a class with Dark Channel, Warp and a power that lets you be invisible and that boosts both power and melee damage to insane levels and everyone is butthurt because they were expecting a game-breaking class.

Pathetic.

Not really. Would you release a Sentinel with Tech Armor that doesn't give a defensive bonus? A Vanguard with a Biotic Charge that doesn't regen shields? Regardless of the ability certain classes have staples that you come to expect and when one doesn't work it just shows shoddy workmanship. Sure, her ability slightly works, but she's put to shame by what every single other Infiltrator can do. Large amounts of damage in a short period of time.

[sw04ca]

Won't they just fix her next Tuesday?

[JSLfromBx]

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Almoust sounds like you are advocating removal of damage bonuses from cloak for all the other infiltrators too ...

Can other infiltrators kill a Gold Brute just by pressing two buttons (TC + DC) ?

Can other infiltrators kill a Banshee just by shooting at it once and pressing two buttons ?

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?

Good job proving you're a clueless noob and a incompetent player., even a half asleep Geth infiltrator can wipe out half of a wave on their own before your DC kill that Banshee.
As for the Phantom, oh boy, now that one is priceless, any shadow can kill a phantom by pushing 2 button and she dies instantly, not 20 sec later after she's done evicerating your teammate.

Dear god, I feel  sorry for all the poor pugger who ever had the terrible luck of having someone like you in their match.

[Kalas Magnus]

Feneckus wrote...

This thread is really pathetic.

If we had an Adept with Dark Channel, Warp and whatever, nobody would complain.

We got a class with Dark Channel, Warp and a power that lets you be invisible and that boosts both power and melee damage to insane levels while ignoring cooldown penalties and everyone is butthurt because they were expecting a game-breaking class.

Pathetic.

<_<

"Infiltrators are too powerful so it's ok for one of her abilities to be broken."

[bluebeam]

I think we were expecting the Huntress to be an infiltrator instead of an adept with tactical cloak.

[Jamesui]

JSLfromBx wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Can other infiltrators kill a Gold Brute just by pressing two buttons (TC + DC) ?

Can other infiltrators kill a Banshee just by shooting at it once and pressing two buttons ?

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?

Good job proving you're a clueless noob and a incompetent player., even a half asleep Geth infiltrator can wipe out half of a wave on their own before your DC kill that Banshee.
As for the Phantom, oh boy, now that one is priceless, any shadow can kill a phantom by pushing 2 button and she dies instantly, not 20 sec later after she's done evicerating your teammate.

Dear god, I feel  sorry for all the poor pugger who ever had the terrible luck of having someone like you in their match.

Watch the insults. You're a little out of your depth w.r.t whom you address.

Modifié par Jamesui, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:34 .

[Star fury]

Feneckus wrote...

This thread is really pathetic.

If we had an Adept with Dark Channel, Warp and whatever, nobody would complain.

We got a class with Dark Channel, Warp and a power that lets you be invisible and that boosts both power and melee damage to insane levels while ignoring cooldown penalties and everyone is butthurt because they were expecting a game-breaking class.

Pathetic.

Is it that hard to understand that people in this thread want a glitch to be fixed? You fail so much.

Modifié par Star fury, 30 novembre 2012 - 05:38 .

[UKStory135]

Feneckus wrote...

This thread is really pathetic.

If we had an Adept with Dark Channel, Warp and whatever, nobody would complain.

We got a class with Dark Channel, Warp and a power that lets you be invisible and that boosts both power and melee damage to insane levels while ignoring cooldown penalties and everyone is butthurt because they were expecting a game-breaking class.

Pathetic.

She'd also have a third power that did something.  If BW released a character with a casting power that had a 10s base cooldown did only 150 DPS per second,  did not debuff or stack, could only be cast once at time, and prevented you shields form regenerating every time it was cast, people would be upset.

[Geek]

bluebeam wrote...

I think we were expecting the Huntress to be an infiltrator instead of an adept with tactical cloak.

Yes the problem with her being broken is it limits the variety in playstyles. I don't want to play her like an adept. Be good to at least know if a fix is possible or not. #firstworldproblems

[UKStory135]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

peddroelmz wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

Kind of funny how for once we have a somewhat balanced infiltrator and everyone is butthurt about it.

Almoust sounds like you are advocating removal of damage bonuses from cloak for all the other infiltrators too ...

Can other infiltrators kill a Gold Brute just by pressing two buttons (TC + DC) ?

Can other infiltrators kill a Banshee just by shooting at it once and pressing two buttons ?

Can other infiltrators kill Phantoms as casually as the Huntress ?

In the time span it takes for DC to do all of those things, you can do the same amount or more damage to multiple targets by either charging and throwing 4 lift grenades or stacking Reave.  

That's totally relevant since, you know, the Huntress has to stay behind cover and do nothing for Dark Channel to do its damage 

Do you serioulsy want to just sit in cover and kill only one target at a time?

The point is - you can cast DC and it deals damage over time that doesn't require your active participation.  This allows you to then deal damage simultanously in a different way.  For example, cast DC to deal with that group of Cannibals over there, and then focus on taking down the Brute with Warp and weapon fire.  

I understand the point.  But while you are sitting there.  All you have is Warp and a TC that gives you no benefit.  In fact it slows your cooldowns.

[Feneckus]

JSLfromBx wrote...

Good job proving you're a clueless noob and a incompetent player.

As for the Phantom, oh boy, now that one is priceless, any shadow can kill a phantom by pushing 2 button and she dies instantly, not 20 sec later after she's done evicerating your teammate.

A Shadow has to take special precautions before shadow striking a phantom. She has to be out of sight otherwise the phantom will melee her before the SS even hits. Not to mention lots of BS that can happen during the animation, like an Atlas Rocket doing a 360 and hitting you mid animation.

A Huntress can just cloak -> Dark Channel and seek another target.

UKStory135 wrote...

She'd also have a third power that did something.

Being invisible, boosting power damage by 105% and ignoring cooldown penalties isn't enough ? Damn.

Even by BSN standards this is stupid.

Modifié par Feneckus, 30 novembre 2012 - 06:23 .