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[aimimia]

lol I would love it if the devs said that she's not to have any weapon damage bonuses. Then it wouldn't be "broken" and people "should" stop complaining.

[Drayce333]

Dear Diary.

Page 23, still no dev response.

One day maybe.

[Barneyk]

Drayce333 wrote...

Dear Diary.

Page 23, still no dev response.

One day maybe.

They usually don't comment until they have investigated the issue as they don't want to provide false information or get our hopes up or whatever.
I totally understand and respect their choice in doing so.

I hope, and think, they will comment on this eventually, probably next week.

[corporal doody]

aimimia wrote...

lol I would love it if the devs said that she's not to have any weapon damage bonuses. Then it wouldn't be "broken" and people "should" stop complaining.

if the devs said it wasnt meant to give a weapon bonus....they (the BSN) would still say it was broken.  And they wouldnt stop complaining....they would find something else to complain about.  Im thinking the next hot button issue in regards to the Huntress would be how her power set sucks. (to which i disagree).

[Cyonan]

For the Claymore thing:

Claymore does a total of 1648 damage per shot

Asari Huntress
25% - Extended Barrel
22.5% - Asari Huntress
30% - Shotgun Rail Amp III
15% - Shotgun Amp V
+92.5% total weapon damage

+15% multiplicative bonus from Warp

+120% base weapon damage from Warp Ammo IV

((1.925 * 1648) * 1.15) + (1648 * 1.2) = 5625.86 maximum damage per shot(not counting headshots)

Geth Infiltrator

25% - Extended Barrel
22.5% - Networked AI
17.5% - Hunter Mode
80% - Tactical Cloak
30% - Shotgun Rail Amp III
15% - Shotgun Amp V
+190% total weapon damage

+20% multiplicative bonus from Proximity Mine

+60% base weapon damage from Warp Ammo IV

((2.9 * 1648) * 1.2) + (1648 * 0.6) = 6723.84 max damage per shot

If Tactical Cloak worked, the Asari Huntress would do 7142.02 per shot with the Claymore

As it stands right now, with full consumables the Asari Huntress has a weapon damage modifier of 3.41x while the Geth Infiltrator has one of 4.08x

Also worth noting a few additional facts(which I know isn't going to stop anybody, but I'm going to do it anyway =P)

> The Geth Infiltrator can reduce pellet spread by 75% while the Huntress can only do 50%.
> Proximity Mine is an AoE that hits harder than the single target Warp. In return Warp can participate in Biotic Explosions.
> The Piranha is a far more effective weapon for the Geth Infiltrator, at which point the additional RoF and especially accuracy of Hunter Mode become much bigger deals.

[himegoto]

corporal doody wrote...

aimimia wrote...

lol I would love it if the devs said that she's not to have any weapon damage bonuses. Then it wouldn't be "broken" and people "should" stop complaining.

if the devs said it wasnt meant to give a weapon bonus....they (the BSN) would still say it was broken.  And they wouldnt stop complaining....they would find something else to complain about.  Im thinking the next hot button issue in regards to the Huntress would be how her power set sucks. (to which i disagree).

It's really easy for them to give such a response to "warp things up". Looks like sombody here would believe it.
If this were indeed a feature, they would've give out such a response much earlier.

So, would you say she's fine right now? Are we complaining or spotted a bug in the game and want it fixed?

[aimimia]

Cyonan! How dare you use facts and logic to try and make people understand??? Shame on you!

[MetalDeggial]

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

Something tells me this isn't gonna get fixed. But why wouldn't they give her weapon damage bonuses? Just to make a point with the biotic powers they gave her?

I honestly do not like shooting DC and then sitting in cover while it slowly does damage. DC as a whole is a terrible power. Sure, that garbage "might" be good for a gold/platinum solo, but it's useless for team play. NO ONE waits for it to do full damage. Chances are, your opponent will be dead 1 second after you apply DC.

I was only looking forward to this character if only to see how ridiculous the Warp-Incendiary bug was on her, and then forget her in favor of the Valkyrie and Fury. Bummer.

You're wrong about DC being a terrible power.  The way you used it might have been terrible, but that doesn't make the power itself bad.

The power is pretty bad. The only way it could be usable is if you are starting to play and you get the Fury or this Huntress on some lucky pack, and then you spam it cuz your weapons are trash. Other than that, yes, it's garbage and that is a fact. The only good properties about it are that it primes for explosions and that it's not a projectile. It doesn't debuff (the 30% speed reduction is laughable), it has an annoying cooldown and it deals its damage over a tediously long period of time. There's just no way to use this power effectively unless you are just using it and running around the map like a headless chicken. Again, such tactic could be useful for solos, but who wants to duck in cover and spam DC? Nobody, that's who.

Terrible power. The Fury does not need it at all, nor does this Huntress, at least not when you have 1 or more partners with you. Everything dies before it has a chance of doing a single health bar of damage. Last time I actually used it for something, was in those FBWGG camping runs months ago. Total waste of a power and it needs a buff ASAP.

If anything, the biotic effect should spread when the enemies get near the infected trooper, instead of waiting for it to die, or if the power applied way more damage per second, and its overall duration got reduced, like Inferno Grenades.

[corporal doody]

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

aimimia wrote...

lol I would love it if the devs said that she's not to have any weapon damage bonuses. Then it wouldn't be "broken" and people "should" stop complaining.

if the devs said it wasnt meant to give a weapon bonus....they (the BSN) would still say it was broken.  And they wouldnt stop complaining....they would find something else to complain about.  Im thinking the next hot button issue in regards to the Huntress would be how her power set sucks. (to which i disagree).

It's really easy for them to give such a response to "warp things up". Looks like sombody here would believe it.
If this were indeed a feature, they would've give out such a response much earlier.

So, would you say she's fine right now? Are we complaining or spotted a bug in the game and want it fixed?

what page is this thread on? how many other threads were created about the same "issue"? that aint SPOTTING a bug...that is complaining chief.

and YES...i would say she is fine now.  I WOULD. I HAVE. ME. MYSELF.

[himegoto]

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

aimimia wrote...

lol I would love it if the devs said that she's not to have any weapon damage bonuses. Then it wouldn't be "broken" and people "should" stop complaining.

if the devs said it wasnt meant to give a weapon bonus....they (the BSN) would still say it was broken.  And they wouldnt stop complaining....they would find something else to complain about.  Im thinking the next hot button issue in regards to the Huntress would be how her power set sucks. (to which i disagree).

It's really easy for them to give such a response to "warp things up". Looks like sombody here would believe it.
If this were indeed a feature, they would've give out such a response much earlier.

So, would you say she's fine right now? Are we complaining or spotted a bug in the game and want it fixed?

what page is this thread on? how many other threads were created about the same "issue"? that aint SPOTTING a bug...that is complaining chief.

and YES...i would say she is fine now.  I WOULD. I HAVE. ME. MYSELF.

Nice logic you got there.
Any idea why bw hasn't response to this all this while?

[Zero132132]

Feneckus wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

Feneckus wrote...

I can't OSK Banshees, please fix Bioware 

That's not why people want a fix, ******. People want a fix because something's broken. That's pretty much always how people react to things being broken.

It's an absurdly simple concept. I'm sorry that it's hard for you to understand.

People wanted a game-breaking class. They didn't get it.

Now they're butthurt.

Pretty simple.

As I explained, that really doesn't have much to do with it. It's that one of her three skills doesn't work as advertised. If they nerfed it so her TC got a 60% boost instead or something, then that'd make sense. As-is, you're defending a glitch because in your mind, it's okay for a glitch to be the balancing factor. I disagree, because I'm generally of the mind that game design shouldn't rely on glitches.

[corporal doody]

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

aimimia wrote...

lol I would love it if the devs said that she's not to have any weapon damage bonuses. Then it wouldn't be "broken" and people "should" stop complaining.

if the devs said it wasnt meant to give a weapon bonus....they (the BSN) would still say it was broken.  And they wouldnt stop complaining....they would find something else to complain about.  Im thinking the next hot button issue in regards to the Huntress would be how her power set sucks. (to which i disagree).

It's really easy for them to give such a response to "warp things up". Looks like sombody here would believe it.
If this were indeed a feature, they would've give out such a response much earlier.

So, would you say she's fine right now? Are we complaining or spotted a bug in the game and want it fixed?

what page is this thread on? how many other threads were created about the same "issue"? that aint SPOTTING a bug...that is complaining chief.

and YES...i would say she is fine now.  I WOULD. I HAVE. ME. MYSELF.

Nice logic you got there.
Any idea why bw hasn't response to this all this while?

snappy retort.
Do you think i work for Bioware? DO you think I took fortune telling and mind reading classes or something? You think about sending a PM to someone that does work for them or can read minds?

Modifié par corporal doody, 01 décembre 2012 - 02:00 .

[Geek]

Thanks Cyonan for the numbers. An extra 400 or so on a claymore shot doesn't seem that game breaking.

[himegoto]

MetalDeggial wrote...

CmnDwnWrkn wrote...

MetalDeggial wrote...

Something tells me this isn't gonna get fixed. But why wouldn't they give her weapon damage bonuses? Just to make a point with the biotic powers they gave her?

I honestly do not like shooting DC and then sitting in cover while it slowly does damage. DC as a whole is a terrible power. Sure, that garbage "might" be good for a gold/platinum solo, but it's useless for team play. NO ONE waits for it to do full damage. Chances are, your opponent will be dead 1 second after you apply DC.

I was only looking forward to this character if only to see how ridiculous the Warp-Incendiary bug was on her, and then forget her in favor of the Valkyrie and Fury. Bummer.

You're wrong about DC being a terrible power.  The way you used it might have been terrible, but that doesn't make the power itself bad.

The power is pretty bad. The only way it could be usable is if you are starting to play and you get the Fury or this Huntress on some lucky pack, and then you spam it cuz your weapons are trash. Other than that, yes, it's garbage and that is a fact. The only good properties about it are that it primes for explosions and that it's not a projectile. It doesn't debuff (the 30% speed reduction is laughable), it has an annoying cooldown and it deals its damage over a tediously long period of time. There's just no way to use this power effectively unless you are just using it and running around the map like a headless chicken. Again, such tactic could be useful for solos, but who wants to duck in cover and spam DC? Nobody, that's who.

Terrible power. The Fury does not need it at all, nor does this Huntress, at least not when you have 1 or more partners with you. Everything dies before it has a chance of doing a single health bar of damage. Last time I actually used it for something, was in those FBWGG camping runs months ago. Total waste of a power and it needs a buff ASAP.

If anything, the biotic effect should spread when the enemies get near the infected trooper, instead of waiting for it to die, or if the power applied way more damage per second, and its overall duration got reduced, like Inferno Grenades.

It's pretty tricky to buff on DC. Giving it stacks would make it too good. Making it an AOE would defy its original design.
Perhaps a shorter CD? Seems like an easy enough buff for any crappy power nowadays.

And yes, it's one of the worst biotic powers in game. It's utility is from little to none. While I wouldn't skip it out on both characters, it's not a power to rely on.

On the Fury you can do the ocasional cast on barriars / armors / or bosses namely to stop their regen. Most of the time you should be running around like a madman with AF on and your acolyte.

On the Huntress however, currently it's the power to dependent on. No other choices available. Warp > Shotguns? Why even give us this character then? I've been doing the same on my human sentinel for 5 months now.

This power is even more obsolete when you have teammates around.

[himegoto]

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

aimimia wrote...

lol I would love it if the devs said that she's not to have any weapon damage bonuses. Then it wouldn't be "broken" and people "should" stop complaining.

if the devs said it wasnt meant to give a weapon bonus....they (the BSN) would still say it was broken.  And they wouldnt stop complaining....they would find something else to complain about.  Im thinking the next hot button issue in regards to the Huntress would be how her power set sucks. (to which i disagree).

It's really easy for them to give such a response to "warp things up". Looks like sombody here would believe it.
If this were indeed a feature, they would've give out such a response much earlier.

So, would you say she's fine right now? Are we complaining or spotted a bug in the game and want it fixed?

what page is this thread on? how many other threads were created about the same "issue"? that aint SPOTTING a bug...that is complaining chief.

and YES...i would say she is fine now.  I WOULD. I HAVE. ME. MYSELF.

Nice logic you got there.
Any idea why bw hasn't response to this all this while?

snappy retort.
Do you think i work for Bioware? DO you think I took fortune telling and mind reading classes or something? You think about sending a PM to someone that does work for them or can read minds?

You're a funny man.
I asked for your opinion because I thought you have something figured out / going on there. No need to go defensive

[Zero132132]

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

what page is this thread on? how many other threads were created about the same "issue"? that aint SPOTTING a bug...that is complaining chief.

and YES...i would say she is fine now.  I WOULD. I HAVE. ME. MYSELF.

Nice logic you got there.
Any idea why bw hasn't response to this all this while?

snappy retort.
Do you think i work for Bioware? DO you think I took fortune telling and mind reading classes or something? You think about sending a PM to someone that does work for them or can read minds?

His point stands. They haven't responded. That's become a large part of this thread now; basically just wanting them to actually respond to the problem in some way, even if it's just bull**** assurances that they're aware of the issue and will look into it.

Also, just a sidenote, I've never seen anyone on BSN whine as much as you do. The difference is, the rest of us whine about the game when we whine. You whine about BSN itself, and you do so constantly.

[corporal doody]

Zero132132 wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

what page is this thread on? how many other threads were created about the same "issue"? that aint SPOTTING a bug...that is complaining chief.

and YES...i would say she is fine now.  I WOULD. I HAVE. ME. MYSELF.

Nice logic you got there.
Any idea why bw hasn't response to this all this while?

snappy retort.
Do you think i work for Bioware? DO you think I took fortune telling and mind reading classes or something? You think about sending a PM to someone that does work for them or can read minds?

His point stands. They haven't responded. That's become a large part of this thread now; basically just wanting them to actually respond to the problem in some way, even if it's just bull**** assurances that they're aware of the issue and will look into it.

Also, just a sidenote, I've never seen anyone on BSN whine as much as you do. The difference is, the rest of us whine about the game when we whine. You whine about BSN itself, and you do so constantly.

yo..you have sent me PM's about how i annoy you....so none of what you are saying about me means a damned thing. Keep it up with the personal attacks dude.


AND HELLZ F YEAH i whine about the BSN.....cuz i aint got a beef with the game...i got a beef with the horsecrap that some folks (you included) wanna spread here on the BSN ....then wanna act like Im the one with the problem cuz i dont see it YOUR way. aint that what a FORUM is for?  spread beef and whine sans the cheese?

Modifié par corporal doody, 01 décembre 2012 - 03:23 .

[corporal doody]

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

himegoto wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

aimimia wrote...

lol I would love it if the devs said that she's not to have any weapon damage bonuses. Then it wouldn't be "broken" and people "should" stop complaining.

if the devs said it wasnt meant to give a weapon bonus....they (the BSN) would still say it was broken.  And they wouldnt stop complaining....they would find something else to complain about.  Im thinking the next hot button issue in regards to the Huntress would be how her power set sucks. (to which i disagree).

It's really easy for them to give such a response to "warp things up". Looks like sombody here would believe it.
If this were indeed a feature, they would've give out such a response much earlier.

So, would you say she's fine right now? Are we complaining or spotted a bug in the game and want it fixed?

what page is this thread on? how many other threads were created about the same "issue"? that aint SPOTTING a bug...that is complaining chief.

and YES...i would say she is fine now.  I WOULD. I HAVE. ME. MYSELF.

Nice logic you got there.
Any idea why bw hasn't response to this all this while?

snappy retort.
Do you think i work for Bioware? DO you think I took fortune telling and mind reading classes or something? You think about sending a PM to someone that does work for them or can read minds?

You're a funny man.
I asked for your opinion because I thought you have something figured out / going on there. No need to go defensive

how long did it take for them to address the issues with the Krogan Shaman? How long did it take for them to address the issues with the Vorcha Hunter?  It aint gonna come right away...like some folks DEMAND.  If it is INDEED an issue it will come. 

[Gaidax]

They are not dumb, they obviously know about this issue.

I think there are 2 possible reasons why they don't comment on this yet:

1) They want to see first when they actually can fix it or even if they can fix it at all.
2) They are not sure yet if Asari Huntress even should have any weapon damage bonus to begin with, since she has some awesome Warp Ammo synergy and almost adept level access to biotic explosions as well, so they are currently discussing it internally trying to decide if go on and waste their time trying to fix it or just announce that it's "working as intended" and be done with it.

[corporal doody]

Gaidax wrote...

They are not dumb, they obviously know about this issue.

I think there are 2 possible reasons why they don't comment on this yet:

1) They want to see first when they actually can fix it or even if they can fix it at all.
2) They are not sure yet if Asari Huntress even should have any weapon damage bonus to begin with, since she has some awesome Warp Ammo synergy and almost adept level access to biotic explosions as well, so they are currently discussing it internally trying to decide if go on and waste their time trying to fix it or just announce that it's "working as intended" and be done with it.

that aint good enough man!!!  the BSN DEMANDS IMMEDIATE RESPONSE!!  



NAAOOoooooo
[tantrum follows. to consist of stomping, screaming, crying, nose dripping, and fist waving)

Modifié par corporal doody, 01 décembre 2012 - 03:29 .

[TODD 5184]

Working as intended yet? Still no word. Dang.

[4ut0b4hn5child27]

Well at last it can sneak and give surprise buttkick

[Gaidax]

corporal doody wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

They are not dumb, they obviously know about this issue.

I think there are 2 possible reasons why they don't comment on this yet:

1) They want to see first when they actually can fix it or even if they can fix it at all.
2) They are not sure yet if Asari Huntress even should have any weapon damage bonus to begin with, since she has some awesome Warp Ammo synergy and almost adept level access to biotic explosions as well, so they are currently discussing it internally trying to decide if go on and waste their time trying to fix it or just announce that it's "working as intended" and be done with it.

that aint good enough man!!!  the BSN DEMANDS IMMEDIATE RESPONSE!!  



NAAOOoooooo
[tantrum follows. to consist of stomping, screaming, crying, nose dripping, and fist waving)

I think you over-dramatize it quite a bit. People just want to know what is going on and it is not a unreasonable request.

The issue at hand is pretty severe, it is definitely not "the sky is falling" severe, but it is not a minor bug either. It should be addressed or acknowledged in a timely manner.

[TODD 5184]

I been thinking, I think I'd prefer to have the Huntress with the boost to her gun damage and not her powers, than the way it is now.

Sure stronger DoT is nice, but I'd rather have those double damage BOOM headshot snipes. Still hasn't been addressed, so I'll keep posting random thoughts on this to keep it a hot topic.

[TODD 5184]

A boost to both gun and power damage would be nice though. Same as every other infiltrator.