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[corporal doody]

Gaidax wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

They are not dumb, they obviously know about this issue.

I think there are 2 possible reasons why they don't comment on this yet:

1) They want to see first when they actually can fix it or even if they can fix it at all.
2) They are not sure yet if Asari Huntress even should have any weapon damage bonus to begin with, since she has some awesome Warp Ammo synergy and almost adept level access to biotic explosions as well, so they are currently discussing it internally trying to decide if go on and waste their time trying to fix it or just announce that it's "working as intended" and be done with it.

that aint good enough man!!!  the BSN DEMANDS IMMEDIATE RESPONSE!!  



NAAOOoooooo
[tantrum follows. to consist of stomping, screaming, crying, nose dripping, and fist waving)

I think you over-dramatize it quite a bit. People just want to know what is going on and it is not a unreasonable request.

The issue at hand is pretty severe, it is definitely not "the sky is falling" severe, but it is not a minor bug either. It should be addressed or acknowledged in a timely manner.

You think it is severe?  The lack of the weapon damage bonus is severe...thus making her broken? That seems a little overdramatic to me. She has the best power bonuses available...but cuz she doesnt have the (upto) 80% weapon damage bonus ontop of that it is an issue that demands immediate response?

It may or may not be an issue. Either way....it will be addressed...but not as soon as some folks want.

IMHO...she is good as is....a weapon damage bonus ontop of that...might be alittle too much.  If i was concerned about weapon damage bonuses i would play one of the other infiltrators.

[UKStory135]

corporal doody wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

corporal doody wrote...

Gaidax wrote...

They are not dumb, they obviously know about this issue.

I think there are 2 possible reasons why they don't comment on this yet:

1) They want to see first when they actually can fix it or even if they can fix it at all.
2) They are not sure yet if Asari Huntress even should have any weapon damage bonus to begin with, since she has some awesome Warp Ammo synergy and almost adept level access to biotic explosions as well, so they are currently discussing it internally trying to decide if go on and waste their time trying to fix it or just announce that it's "working as intended" and be done with it.

that aint good enough man!!!  the BSN DEMANDS IMMEDIATE RESPONSE!!  



NAAOOoooooo
[tantrum follows. to consist of stomping, screaming, crying, nose dripping, and fist waving)

I think you over-dramatize it quite a bit. People just want to know what is going on and it is not a unreasonable request.

The issue at hand is pretty severe, it is definitely not "the sky is falling" severe, but it is not a minor bug either. It should be addressed or acknowledged in a timely manner.

You think it is severe?  The lack of the weapon damage bonus is severe...thus making her broken? That seems a little overdramatic to me. She has the best power bonuses available...but cuz she doesnt have the (upto) 80% weapon damage bonus ontop of that it is an issue that demands immediate response?

It may or may not be an issue. Either way....it will be addressed...but not as soon as some folks want.

IMHO...she is good as is....a weapon damage bonus ontop of that...might be alittle too much.  If i was concerned about weapon damage bonuses i would play one of the other infiltrators.

I personally don't think that she is a broken or terrible class; I think that she is above average.  Yes, she does get a huge damage bonus, but one of her powers does very little base damage to begin with . The other does it's damage over a very long period of time, does not stack and can only be cast against one target at a time (Since her TC evo 6 bonus is additive, it only amounts to a 37.5 DPS boost to DC).  If she had cluster or lift grenades, I'd understand the "AH is awesome" responses a lot more.

Modifié par UKStory135, 01 décembre 2012 - 05:20 .

[megawug]

She's not bad... no more effective than the Valk though. Finished a couple of gold games with 130k. I do like dark channel, but hard to make it work with warp.

[heybigmoney]

Cyonan wrote...

For the Claymore thing:

Claymore does a total of 1648 damage per shot

Asari Huntress
25% - Extended Barrel
22.5% - Asari Huntress
30% - Shotgun Rail Amp III
15% - Shotgun Amp V
+92.5% total weapon damage

+15% multiplicative bonus from Warp

+120% base weapon damage from Warp Ammo IV

((1.925 * 1648) * 1.15) + (1648 * 1.2) = 5625.86 maximum damage per shot(not counting headshots)

Geth Infiltrator

25% - Extended Barrel
22.5% - Networked AI
17.5% - Hunter Mode
80% - Tactical Cloak
30% - Shotgun Rail Amp III
15% - Shotgun Amp V
+190% total weapon damage

+20% multiplicative bonus from Proximity Mine

+60% base weapon damage from Warp Ammo IV

((2.9 * 1648) * 1.2) + (1648 * 0.6) = 6723.84 max damage per shot

If Tactical Cloak worked, the Asari Huntress would do 7142.02 per shot with the Claymore

As it stands right now, with full consumables the Asari Huntress has a weapon damage modifier of 3.41x while the Geth Infiltrator has one of 4.08x

Also worth noting a few additional facts(which I know isn't going to stop anybody, but I'm going to do it anyway =P)

> The Geth Infiltrator can reduce pellet spread by 75% while the Huntress can only do 50%.
> Proximity Mine is an AoE that hits harder than the single target Warp. In return Warp can participate in Biotic Explosions.
> The Piranha is a far more effective weapon for the Geth Infiltrator, at which point the additional RoF and especially accuracy of Hunter Mode become much bigger deals.

Appreciate the numbers.  But I'm fairly certain that incendiary is a far more powerful option for her and wouldn't make this much of a contest.

If cloak gets fixed they seriously need to take a look at incendiary warp dot.

[ForTuchanka]

I actually think the design and idea behind the class is quite nice and was very happy with the power side of it until I noticed the rifle not doing as much as expected. Once that is eventually fixed, the huntress will be in the top 3 infiltrators for me personally.

[UKStory135]

heybigmoney wrote...

Cyonan wrote...

For the Claymore thing:

Claymore does a total of 1648 damage per shot

Asari Huntress
25% - Extended Barrel
22.5% - Asari Huntress
30% - Shotgun Rail Amp III
15% - Shotgun Amp V
+92.5% total weapon damage

+15% multiplicative bonus from Warp

+120% base weapon damage from Warp Ammo IV

((1.925 * 1648) * 1.15) + (1648 * 1.2) = 5625.86 maximum damage per shot(not counting headshots)

Geth Infiltrator

25% - Extended Barrel
22.5% - Networked AI
17.5% - Hunter Mode
80% - Tactical Cloak
30% - Shotgun Rail Amp III
15% - Shotgun Amp V
+190% total weapon damage

+20% multiplicative bonus from Proximity Mine

+60% base weapon damage from Warp Ammo IV

((2.9 * 1648) * 1.2) + (1648 * 0.6) = 6723.84 max damage per shot

If Tactical Cloak worked, the Asari Huntress would do 7142.02 per shot with the Claymore

As it stands right now, with full consumables the Asari Huntress has a weapon damage modifier of 3.41x while the Geth Infiltrator has one of 4.08x

Also worth noting a few additional facts(which I know isn't going to stop anybody, but I'm going to do it anyway =P)

> The Geth Infiltrator can reduce pellet spread by 75% while the Huntress can only do 50%.
> Proximity Mine is an AoE that hits harder than the single target Warp. In return Warp can participate in Biotic Explosions.
> The Piranha is a far more effective weapon for the Geth Infiltrator, at which point the additional RoF and especially accuracy of Hunter Mode become much bigger deals.

Appreciate the numbers.  But I'm fairly certain that incendiary is a far more powerful option for her and wouldn't make this much of a contest.

If cloak gets fixed they seriously need to take a look at incendiary warp dot.

Also, It's if someone else on the team is using Warp, the GI gets that bonus as well.  The Incendiary DOT is universal for all characters who use warp and is better on the Valkyrie than the Huntress.

[corporal doody]

UKStory135 wrote...


Also, It's if someone else on the team is using Warp, the GI gets that bonus as well.  The Incendiary DOT is universal for all characters who use warp and is better on the Valkyrie than the Huntress.

according to some on the BSN....the acolyte, reegar, and incendiary ammo MAKE EVERY class better.

[TODD 5184]

Bump

[UKStory135]

corporal doody wrote...

UKStory135 wrote...


Also, It's if someone else on the team is using Warp, the GI gets that bonus as well.  The Incendiary DOT is universal for all characters who use warp and is better on the Valkyrie than the Huntress.

according to some on the BSN....the acolyte, reegar, and incendiary ammo MAKE EVERY class better.

In most cases that is true. I prefer the Wraith + acolyte, personally.

[FellowMusicFan]

Man this has got to be one of those "Oh ****..." moments for the development team. Mainly because of the fury that is BSN but partially because they're like "Umm...we can't fix this with just a balance update..." "We'll never hear the end of this will we?" "No Bryan, no we won't."

[Stardusk]

FellowMusicFan wrote...

Man this has got to be one of those "Oh ****..." moments for the development team. Mainly because of the fury that is BSN but partially because they're like "Umm...we can't fix this with just a balance update..." "We'll never hear the end of this will we?" "No Bryan, no we won't."

I believe it is intentional, hence the lack of response.

[nbiscuitz]

If intentional, the description on the evo should be made clear, otherwise it's broken.

[TODD 5184]

Bump

[Rendy H]

nbiscuitz wrote...

If intentional, the description on the evo should be made clear, otherwise it's broken.

^This. I just now speced my lvl 17 Huntress for (Weapon, icon says so)Power damage and now I see this thread.

Modifié par Rendy H, 01 décembre 2012 - 11:57 .

[Stardusk]

nbiscuitz wrote...

If intentional, the description on the evo should be made clear, otherwise it's broken.

BW should issue a statement, yes.

[tonnactus]

bump.

[TODD 5184]

Whether intentional or not, TC boosts both on every other Infiltrator.

[Atheosis]

Still no response from Bioware? That's ridiculous...

[Hiero Glyph]

Atheosis wrote...

Still no response from Bioware? That's ridiculous...

QFT.

[etm125]

nbiscuitz wrote...

If intentional, the description on the evo should be made clear, otherwise it's broken.

yep. Either the powers broken or the description is. One or the other.

[ForTuchanka]

Before we start lighting the torches and grabbing the pitchforks, lets at least give them a week to try and fix or at least comment on it via the weekly balance update and its thread.

[Atheosis]

ForTuchanka wrote...

Before we start lighting the torches and grabbing the pitchforks, lets at least give them a week to try and fix or at least comment on it via the weekly balance update and its thread.

They have read this thread by now, and have conciously chosen not to comment.  To think otherwise is profoundly naive.

[FellowMusicFan]

Stardusk wrote...

FellowMusicFan wrote...

Man this has got to be one of those "Oh ****..." moments for the development team. Mainly because of the fury that is BSN but partially because they're like "Umm...we can't fix this with just a balance update..." "We'll never hear the end of this will we?" "No Bryan, no we won't."

I believe it is intentional, hence the lack of response.

That'd make it the exact opposite. If it were intentional they'd respond saying so. Since it isn't and they have to decide how they'll handle this, because I'm pretty sure they realize it'll take a whole patch and not just a balance update. Frankly, leaving us in the dark either way after days is kind of a crappy thing to do.

[TODD 5184]

Lunch bump

[TODD 5184]

Second lunch bump.