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[BridgeBurner]

Cyonan wrote...

Annomander wrote...

I'm guessing that "band aid" fix is possible because the original TC exists in the retaliation files because of the drell infiltrator having it?

I know blade armour is inversely applying the difficulty modifier to its damage returned, for gold / platinum, but was I right in my assumption that wont be fixable without a patch either, or could the inverse numbers simply be made into negatives, e.g. "inversely" applying -3.0 instead of 3.0 for platinum could fix it, or am I barking up the wrong tree?

The Coalesced files share information with each other(or my guess is just that the game compiles them into one meta Coalesced at launch) so you'd be able to do it regardless. The Retaliation files don't even have TC in it, it just has the values for evo 6 of both the Turian Cloak and the Asari Cloak.

Blade Armour is dividing by the difficulty modifier, so you'd probably just end up healing them since the final number would still be negative. In theory you could turn the thorns % up so high that it reflect the proper amount of damage, but you'd only ever be able to get it right on one difficulty, and it would be hilariously overpowered on anything lower.

So there's no way they can just inverse the inversed? I don't know how its written, but is it not possible for a server push to change an instance of division to an instance of multiplication in a formula? Something tells me its not that easy though.

I can read the coalesced and understand most of it, but I don't have any real qualifications in maths or programming so a lot of it is just assumption.

[sandboxgod]

We took our team of asari hunters to platnium & wiped @ wave 7. Granted it was just 3 of us. I still think she is platnium worthy ofc but it would've helped if the weapon bonus worked correctly

Modifié par sandboxgod, 28 novembre 2012 - 07:31 .

[Major Durza]

A good reason to take duration!
I did so anyhow, don't need extra damage for the Collector Sniper Rifle!

[Pyth the Bull]

I bet Bioware could ****** in a cup, tell you it's lemonade and some of you would gulp it down proclaiming it's the next best thing since sliced bread.

[darkpassenger2342]

Pyth the Bull wrote...

I bet Bioware could ****** in a cup, tell you it's lemonade and some of you would gulp it down proclaiming it's the next best thing since sliced bread.

yes, if it was free lemonade they were giving us 7 months after we bought the first cup, and had enjoyed 25+ cups of real lemonade between now and then, itd be just like that.

[Drayce333]

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Pyth the Bull wrote...

I bet Bioware could ****** in a cup, tell you it's lemonade and some of you would gulp it down proclaiming it's the next best thing since sliced bread.

yes, if it was free lemonade they were giving us 7 months after we bought the first cup, and had enjoyed 25+ cups of real lemonade between now and then, itd be just like that.

Would you like more ****** sir?

[vGriMz]

damage boost sight?

[tonnactus]

Biofail strikes again. But at least cloak still overrides the cooldown of other powers,allowing her to use heavier weapons.
But seriously,things like this would be even an embarrassment for indie developers.

[Cyonan]

Annomander wrote...

So there's no way they can just inverse the inversed? I don't know how its written, but is it not possible for a server push to change an instance of division to an instance of multiplication in a formula? Something tells me its not that easy though.

I can read the coalesced and understand most of it, but I don't have any real qualifications in maths or programming so a lot of it is just assumption.

Without looking at the formula directly, I would guess it's something like:

((base_melee_damage * base_bladearmour_thorns) / difficulty_modifier) * bladearmour_evo_4 = reflected_damage

Being that base thorns damage is 100%, it would just be taking the base melee damage of the unit then dividing it by the difficulty modifier(then multiplying by evo 4 if you have evo 4. Only reason I know it's like this is because I found in my testing of the bug this evo does actually still increase damage by 150%).

A weekly balance change has access to being able to change any of those variables, but obviously they can't change base melee damage or difficulty modifiers without affecting everything else, and leaving Blade Armour bugged is a more preferable situation.

Unfortunately with just the two blade armour variables, there's no way to reverse the division. You need to modify either the formula as a whole to change the / to a * or alter the difficulty modifier which of course would massively nerf every difficulty since you'd need to make it a rather small number.

While you can't reverse the division, it might be possible to create a pseudo workaround via evolution 4, seeing as how it's multiplicative of the final damage. Setting it to 300% should place it at decent numbers. For Gold it would be 160% base melee damage reflected, which is still lower than the 250% it should be doing. Would be a tad high for Bronze(320%) but not overly so and it's not like it would break the damage cap.

Modifié par Cyonan, 28 novembre 2012 - 07:53 .

[Star fury]

Pyth the Bull wrote...

I bet Bioware could ****** in a cup, tell you it's lemonade and some of you would gulp it down proclaiming it's the next best thing since sliced bread.

Pretty much.

[tonnactus]

Amnesiotic wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...
Warp is more similar to Dark Channel than Reave?
...

I know, it made more sense in my head. I guess I meant that Warp and DC are both more for priming,

Warp also detonates.

[MuKen]

Rather than fix whatever new TC code they put together, I'd rather they just gave her the same sniper or AR bonus cloak the other infiltrators have.

[stysiaq]

Goddamnit.

I kept telling myself that BioWare isn't lazy.

But this **** is off the charts.

Modifié par stysiaq, 28 novembre 2012 - 08:20 .

[ExpiredLifetime]

The fact that the TC is broken just goes to show how stupid broken the Warp+Incendiary combo is. One clipping things on gold/plat.

[Deerber]

sy7ar wrote...

ah, no wonder I felt my javelin so underpowered.

Well, glad to see I'm not the only one slapping a javelin on her! :happy:

... Less glad to see about this bug, though 

darkpassenger2342 wrote...

Pyth the Bull wrote...

I bet Bioware could ****** in a cup, tell you it's lemonade and some of you would gulp it down proclaiming it's the next best thing since sliced bread.

yes, if it was free lemonade they were giving us 7 months after we bought the first cup, and had enjoyed 25+ cups of real lemonade between now and then, itd be just like that.

Also glad to see someone thinking the same way I do 

Modifié par Deerber, 28 novembre 2012 - 08:57 .

[ZoM_Head]

shadowkinz wrote...

This class is so strong i wonder if it was intended. Lol..

If they have to nerf something to fix tc for weapon dmg, i say leave it. I am looooving this class

You are  loving a class, that is not doing the damage intended.

Wait for it to be fixed, then you will want to marry the class.

[Stahlhammer]

 That's what you get for putting TC on Asaris.. It's against space magic rules. 

[Stardusk]

Is this exclusive to Xbox or on PC as well?

[Uh Cold]

I would assume it's all consoles, I just tested it in game to be sure it was real and sadly enough it was real. I would recommend going into a bronze and conforming for yourself.

[HolyAvenger]

Deerber wrote...

sy7ar wrote...

ah, no wonder I felt my javelin so underpowered.

Well, glad to see I'm not the only one slapping a javelin on her! :happy:

Only to drop out mid-game in Plat and never come back, leaving us to three man it


Ugghh, what a terrible bug. I was using a Claymore on her, and it did seem to be underpowered compared to other infiltrators. Now I get why.

[Stardusk]

Pyth the Bull wrote...

I bet Bioware could ****** in a cup, tell you it's lemonade and some of you would gulp it down proclaiming it's the next best thing since sliced bread.

Never was a fan of sliced bread, prefer to tear it off, bit by bit.

[Edelas_rus]

I have two questions.

1) Do we have some off. information about this bug? Whould they work on it in the nearest future?

2) I assume, we are all already have played huntress. What can you say about damage from cloak+warp and then cloak+channel? Warp debuff make channel more deadly, don't it? Is the difference enough tangible to choose warp insted 2e-4e-6e in fitness?
Thank you!