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[Tronar]

DullahansXMark wrote...

Amnesiotic wrote...

Flambrose wrote...
If it's fixed it'll be amazing. People need to quit whining about re-used powers.

Unfortunately I think legion was just joking. I kind of doubt this can be fixed with a weekly balance change. We need to hear from Eric himself.

They fixed SubNet with a balance change, no reason not to expect the same for the Huntress. And when did I mention re-used powers? I don't care if they re-use powers, so long as the powers synergize. Warp and DC are the two most alike powers, why have them both on one character? Give her Reave, AF anything else instead.

Warp is more similar to Dark Channel than Reave?

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Yeah, I was asking myself the same thing. But then again they all have something in common on the one hand and are completely different on the other.

Warp = affects only 1 target and adds a debuff at Rank 5. Can be applied to one enemy more than once or two or more enemies at the same time though. Does no DoT. Primes and sets off biotic detonations.

Reave = affects many enemies at the same time in the same area. Does DoT. Can be applied to one enemy more than once or two or more enemies at the same time. Provides damage reduction. Primes and sets off biotic detonations.

Dark Channel = never affects more than one enemy at the same time. Can not be stacked. Jumps automatically to the next if the original enemy dies. Does no debuff (except potentially slowing down the enemy at Rank 5) nor provide damage reduction. High DoT and a long duration. Only useful as a Biotic Detonation Primer, not as a Detonator.

So warp and DC share the fact that only one enemy is affected at first application. Reave and DC share the DoT part. Warp & Reave share the set off biotic detonations part and the fact that the effects can be stacked.

[IronRush]

born2beagator wrote...

In other words, bioware is slowly, but surely abandoning the MP

Sure not. You are crazy about it.
ME3 MP is strong right now. Many new players is playing. At least more than 80.000 active players only on Xbox.

[Grotaiche]

Tronar wrote...

Warp = [...] Does no DoT.

What do you mean by that ? Warp's damage is applied over the power's total duration, so it comes down to DoT.
But maybe I didn't get your point.

[Rodia Driftwood]

Descy_ wrote...

JSLfromBx wrote...
They will know how to verify this in less than 2 minutes time.

how do i verify?

do i have to know a bioware employee to get in?

Meh@ Your signature. That is just "Black Tobuscus" and I hate Tobuscus.

[Dbohr]

OK, so I tested the Huntress with the so-called buggy TC in mind and top scored Gold by a wide margin. That simply does not usually happen with me. I was simply tearing the Reapers apart with the TC+DC+TC+Warp combo.

I therefore submit the TC damage bonus only working with powers is a feature, not a bug.

[Kalas Magnus]

Dbohr wrote...

OK, so I tested the Huntress with the so-called buggy TC in mind and top scored Gold by a wide margin. That simply does not usually happen with me. I was simply tearing the Reapers apart with the TC+DC+TC+Warp combo.

I therefore submit the TC damage bonus only working with powers is a feature, not a bug.

"I played a good game with a broken character therefore everything is fine" lulz

All other infiltrators have bonus damage to weapon, melee, and powers. AFAIK huntress damage boost works for melee and powers. It is not working correctly.

Modifié par Kalas321, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:04 .

[Kell-LeRenard]

Hardcoresalmon wrote...

Proof: Link

Thnx HCsalmon i knew something was up

[Dbohr]

Kalas321 wrote...

Dbohr wrote...

OK, so I tested the Huntress with the so-called buggy TC in mind and top scored Gold by a wide margin. That simply does not usually happen with me. I was simply tearing the Reapers apart with the TC+DC+TC+Warp combo.

I therefore submit the TC damage bonus only working with powers is a feature, not a bug.

"I played a good game with a broken character therefore everything is fine" lulz

All other infiltrators have bonus damage to weapon, melee, and powers. AFAIK huntress damage boost works for melee and powers. It is not working correctly.

Scoff if you like, but I've been getting consistent good results with this kit, way above any other Infiltrator save the N7 Shadow. 

People say she lacks synergy. That is incorrect -- you just have to play up her strenghts. 

[sobit]

WOW! complete and utter ridiculous fail BW. better delay all balance changes to wednesday now. also, this is why i couldn't take down a bansee in one clip, I see.

[sobit]

Dbohr wrote...

Kalas321 wrote...

Dbohr wrote...

OK, so I tested the Huntress with the so-called buggy TC in mind and top scored Gold by a wide margin. That simply does not usually happen with me. I was simply tearing the Reapers apart with the TC+DC+TC+Warp combo.

I therefore submit the TC damage bonus only working with powers is a feature, not a bug.

"I played a good game with a broken character therefore everything is fine" lulz

All other infiltrators have bonus damage to weapon, melee, and powers. AFAIK huntress damage boost works for melee and powers. It is not working correctly.

Scoff if you like, but I've been getting consistent good results with this kit, way above any other Infiltrator save the N7 Shadow. 

People say she lacks synergy. That is incorrect -- you just have to play up her strenghts. 

who said she lacks synergy? anyway, you don't get the point. maybe you discovered a kit that fits you very well and now you can score first, but that doesn't change the fact that her TC is broken.

[Dbohr]

Can you play an N7 Shadow as a Widow Infiltrator? Yes, that's a perfectly valid build, but she really shines if you use a melee build.

Can you be a Turian Ghost sniper? Of course, but he gets a nice synergy if you play him as an assault rifle hitman.

Can you play the Huntress as a support Infiltrator to help cap objectives and revive squadmates? Of course you can. But she really shines if you use a TC+power build.

They are all limited in a sense, but I'd rather see a limit in choice than an all-purpose god beast such as the Geth Infiltrator.

The only thing I grant all the complainers on this topic is that maybe the Huntress is a little too limited. As in, other Infiltrators (minus the GI) can have valid non-optimal builds that don't explore their main strenghts. The Huntress' TC only really works with powers and melee, so she has less wiggle room.

Modifié par Dbohr, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:35 .

[Ziegrif]

So is the problem in the dmg evolution or in the whole cloaks dmg boost in and of itself?
Because it seems the duration build and basic dmg boosts seem like the only way to go now.

[ZoM_Head]

Dbohr wrote...

OK, so I tested the Huntress with the so-called buggy TC in mind and top scored Gold by a wide margin. That simply does not usually happen with me. I was simply tearing the Reapers apart with the TC+DC+TC+Warp combo.

I therefore submit the TC damage bonus only working with powers is a feature, not a bug.

You did not even bother reading the thread, since i stated that i saw no difference using biotics with and without TC.

[peddroelm]

Thread title is misleading - only the weapon damage component is not working ... Power and melee components work fine ...

[Mendelevosa]

iDevour wrote...

Sovereign24 wrote...

Chill out people. Bioware will come around to fixing it.

Yeah, after a good year or two.

Fixed.

[Dilandau3000]

Wait, what does the last rank of the Asari's TC say? Regular infiltrators say sniper damage, TGI has assault rifle damage, but what does it say for the Huntress? If it mentions a weapon, then it's a bug. If it doesn't, the power-only damage boost might be intentional (though a bit weird and should've been explained better).

[Dbohr]

ZoM_Head wrote...

Dbohr wrote...

OK, so I tested the Huntress with the so-called buggy TC in mind and top scored Gold by a wide margin. That simply does not usually happen with me. I was simply tearing the Reapers apart with the TC+DC+TC+Warp combo.

I therefore submit the TC damage bonus only working with powers is a feature, not a bug.

You did not even bother reading the thread, since i stated that i saw no difference using biotics with and without TC.

If the TC bonus is not working at all, then I'll happily grant that I'm wrong. I did notice an improved performance with TC + powers, however I may be wrong and you may be right.

Modifié par Dbohr, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:44 .

[Dbohr]

Well, Corlist and Vironblood did some testing on the TC + power combo and here's what they found:

https://docs.google....LQ7_JQPIZQ/edit

Modifié par Dbohr, 28 novembre 2012 - 01:03 .

[RNG troll]

DullahansXMark wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

Huntress Cloak will be fixed in next weeks balance changes.

here is a novel idea: Don't screw up in the first place and make your players wait a week.

Bioware is really starting to drop the ball with MP.  

They're a six-man skeleton crew at this point. Cut them some slack, they're trying their best.

Wow, So that's what this is all about.

EA really doesn't care about people who still play the game after they sold the game for what, like 50$, do they?

It's not about the DEV crews. It's about the company's basic mindset. 

[IoeShepard]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

Wait, what does the last rank of the Asari's TC say? Regular infiltrators say sniper damage, TGI has assault rifle damage, but what does it say for the Huntress? If it mentions a weapon, then it's a bug. If it doesn't, the power-only damage boost might be intentional (though a bit weird and should've been explained better).

...should've been explained better... dead on.

only powers, not guns - for me, it works as it should

Modifié par IoeShepard, 28 novembre 2012 - 01:03 .

[YachiruChin]

=O

No wonder I was kinda disappointed with my Claymore + Warp Ammo IV build. =(

[Sidney]

When I did the build of the character last night my impression was that TC for her doesn't say anything about weapons damage only power damage. Are people just assuming it should do weapon damage or did I miss something (not firing up the game to check right now).

[Dbohr]

To summarize:

-Corlist and Vironblood tests indicate that AH TC does not work with guns, but it does apply a bonus to powers DoT.

-Rank 6 damage evolution is additive, not multiplicative, still according to the above mentioned tests.

One might conclude that the TC giving a damage bonus to powers only is indeed a feature and not a bug. However, the lack of weapon damage bonus might lead one to conclude the AH has much more limited build choices than other "niche" Infiltrators.

[Heldarion]

Sidney wrote...

When I did the build of the character last night my impression was that TC for her doesn't say anything about weapons damage only power damage. Are people just assuming it should do weapon damage or did I miss something (not firing up the game to check right now).

TC descriptions are worded exactly the same as on other Infiltrator TC's - 40% damage bonus - which applies to ALL kinds of damage - weapon, melee and power.

Modifié par Heldarion, 28 novembre 2012 - 01:22 .

[golden24ersa]

RNG troll wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

born2beagator wrote...

LegionofRannoch wrote...

Huntress Cloak will be fixed in next weeks balance changes.

here is a novel idea: Don't screw up in the first place and make your players wait a week.

Bioware is really starting to drop the ball with MP.  

They're a six-man skeleton crew at this point. Cut them some slack, they're trying their best.

Wow, So that's what this is all about.

EA really doesn't care about people who still play the game after they sold the game for what, like 50$, do they?

It's not about the DEV crews. It's about the company's basic mindset. 

Ok, I am going to lay some defense for the makers of this game. Is it a little annoying stuff doesn't work when it is released, yes. I am a landscape designer, so I can empathize with things not always working the way you intended. I guarentee it is more of a pain in their quarian giggly bum bum for it to not work than it would be to have it work. Life is way too short folks to get all up, and surly about this. I play lots, and lots of games. They are a company, so they ahve to turn a profit. If they don't no content at all. Plus, have you people played other games? I mean I think they have been pretty giving with freebie content, and not micro debiting me to death. Would I prefer to go back to the old days when you bought a game, and no more money out. Yes and No. Those games you played through, and you were done, even racers and fighters learn the combinations, or where to bump, and can shut your brain off, and do it in your sleep. This is still a great game, and for multiple player that was meant as, "Screw it lets give it a go."  Is really really fun, and just an FYI make some friends, and the little things inconsequintial. There is not a single job I can think of where things always run perfectly. There wouldn't be malpractice lawsuits, or burger remakes if it did. So chill folks, it will gete fixed, or the perosn who programed the cloak says screws it, takes his stapler, and computer  to the basement, and loses it. Either way no biggie become a better player. I was playing Gold with the submission net supposedly not working correctly the whole time, and yeah didn't notice. Now with it working I am slightly better, so bonus.