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[Dutchess]

This was a rethorical question, yes?

[fdgvdddvdfdfbdfb]

Was that one?

[Kidd]

I would assume so.

[ImperatorMortis]

daftPirate wrote...

Yes please.

You want to pay extra for content thats already in the game? 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:33 .

[KcK__]

Most likely yes.

[Navasha]

I hope it does. I like to have the DLC in the game ASAP so that I can actually enjoy it along with my very first experience.

Companies that wait 3 or 4 months before producing a good DLC are far less likely for me to buy it as I have already played the game to death. I will sometimes wait a year before buying it when I feel like playing the game again.

No, I am not one of those people who believe day 1 DLC just "should" have been in the game. No more than I beleive that a car "should" already come with leather seats. If you want a better experience, then you pay a little bit more for it upfront.

[jstme]

Navasha wrote...

I hope it does. I like to have the DLC in the game ASAP so that I can actually enjoy it along with my very first experience.

Companies that wait 3 or 4 months before producing a good DLC are far less likely for me to buy it as I have already played the game to death. I will sometimes wait a year before buying it when I feel like playing the game again.

No, I am not one of those people who believe day 1 DLC just "should" have been in the game. No more than I beleive that a car "should" already come with leather seats. If you want a better experience, then you pay a little bit more for it upfront.

Lol. Car with leather seats? Good luck driving anywhere riding a video game. 
Correct comparison is buying an ebook on release day and then discovering there is already another chapter of the story available online,for additional cost.
 

[Redbelle]

sympathy4sarenreturns wrote...

Is Dragon Age III: Inquisition going to ship with Day One DLC?

I used to work for a DVD rental shop who would often try to increase profits by offering the main product at full price, with the offer that if you buy it, you get something else at a reduced price.

Ultimately this resulted in lower overall profit as the item reduced in price was not sold at it's RRP. However, the offset was that, on release, the main product shipped more items. And if the reduced price product was a product we had trouble selling, then we increased the chances of getting it out of the store to free up shelf space and giving us room to get something in we could sell at a profit etc etc.....

Day 1 DLC , seems to me, to be following this trend, but there's a problem.

Either the software is ready or it isn't on release day. And if it is ready.......... why on Earth isn't it bundled with the main product?

The software is not two seperate products. It's one product. Having Day 1 DLC to raise profits by putting a conceptual artificial seperator line between the software ready for release at the same time as the other smacks of opportunism.

Levi and Omega are exceptions in that it took months of work to prepare the DLC for release. Therefore it could not have been released at benchmark quality.

Modifié par Redbelle, 28 novembre 2012 - 12:47 .

[Wulfram]

Oh well, Day 1 DLC saves me money in the long run, by curing me of my desire to buy the game on Day 1.

[Kidd]

Redbelle wrote...

Either the software is ready or it isn't on release day. And if it is ready.......... why on Earth isn't it bundled with the main product?

The software is not two seperate products. It's one product. Having Day 1 DLC to raise profits by putting a conceptual artificial seperator line between the software ready for release at the same time as the other smacks of opportunism.

This has been talked about before. Basically, the content in the day 1 DLCs would not have been greenlit without the extra funding required to make it happen.


A dramatisation of the DLC greenlighting process, as imagined by yours truly;

BW: Hey, we'd like some more money.
EA: So does every developer, but it's not like our pockets are limitless. Please, make your case.
BW: Well we had this awesome character, but as it stands now we'd have to either cut them or release them months after release like we did with Kasumi. We'd prefer if people could enjoy the game with them in it, since the script was written with their inclusion in mind.
EA: Yeah, I see your point. Tell you what, if we sell this as a separate component, I'll give you more money so you can put more guys at work on it. More content for the consumers, you get to make the game closer to what you want it to be, and we make more money as well. Everybody wins!
BW: Thanks, EA! You're the best!

This is the same meeting without day 1 DLC being an option, as imagined by yours truly;

BW: Hey, we'd like some more money.
EA: So does every developer, but it's not like our pockets are limitless. Please, make your case.
BW: Well we had this awesome character, but as it stands now we'd have to either cut them or release them months after release like we did with Kasumi. We'd prefer if people could enjoy the game with them in it, since the script was written with their inclusion in mind.
EA: Yeah, I see your point. Tough position, but we can't spend more money on this project. We're already funding millions. Maybe you could make the character DLC in the future?
BW: Yeah, maybe. We'll see what happens I guess...

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 28 novembre 2012 - 01:17 .

[frankf43]

With unique DLC for Twitter, Facebook, Codes inside the label on a bottle of cola and other such nonsense

Not to forget this new BSN user level or what ever that is:(

[Sanunes]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Redbelle wrote...

Either the software is ready or it isn't on release day. And if it is ready.......... why on Earth isn't it bundled with the main product?

The software is not two seperate products. It's one product. Having Day 1 DLC to raise profits by putting a conceptual artificial seperator line between the software ready for release at the same time as the other smacks of opportunism.

This has been talked about before. Basically, the content in the day 1 DLCs would not have been greenlit without the extra funding required to make it happen.


A dramatisation of the DLC greenlighting process, as imagined by yours truly;

BW: Hey, we'd like some more money.
EA: So does every developer, but it's not like our pockets are limitless. Please, make your case.
BW: Well we had this awesome character, but as it stands now we'd have to either cut them or release them months after release like we did with Kasumi. We'd prefer if people could enjoy the game with them in it, since the script was written with their inclusion in mind.
EA: Yeah, I see your point. Tell you what, if we sell this as a separate component, I'll give you more money so you can put more guys at work on it. More content for the consumers, you get to make the game closer to what you want it to be, and we make more money as well. Everybody wins!
BW: Thanks, EA! You're the best!

This is the same meeting without day 1 DLC being an option, as imagined by yours truly;

BW: Hey, we'd like some more money.
EA: So does every developer, but it's not like our pockets are limitless. Please, make your case.
BW: Well we had this awesome character, but as it stands now we'd have to either cut them or release them months after release like we did with Kasumi. We'd prefer if people could enjoy the game with them in it, since the script was written with their inclusion in mind.
EA: Yeah, I see your point. Tough position, but we can't spend more money on this project. We're already funding millions. Maybe you could make the character DLC in the future?
BW: Yeah, maybe. We'll see what happens I guess...

That is how I look at Day 1 DLC.  I think the big disconnect is how much downtime there is after the game is sent off for certification and printing.  Honestly if there wasn't Day 1 DLC there probably wouldn't be a team left for people would be moved to different projects or their contract would be terminated, for they don't want to have people sitting around for months because the community doesn't like Day 1 DLC.

The content that is released on Day 1 DLC would be cut even if DLC didn't exist, it just wouldn't be available at all.

As far as expansions go, DLC is the new format for them, taking a year to release new game content reduces the amount of people that will buy it, for interest in the game dies down almost instantly so getting new content out and available as soon as possible to make more sales.

[Ozzy]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

Not eating for four days to play ME2 on launch day was so worth it.

Oh, dear. lol.

[FDrage]

Yes ... and probably will be some companion DLC.

[Bestyj669]

Yet another companion I'll never "get to know"...

[Bail_Darilar]

I don't mind its stupid that people complain. It's not like its a new tactic that businesses have suddenly introduced to advertising and selling a product.

[Bestyj669]

Bail_Darilar wrote...

I don't mind its stupid that people complain. It's not like its a new tactic that businesses have suddenly introduced to advertising and selling a product.

Just because it's not a "new tactic" doesn't make it right.

I still remember buying complete games on release.

[Kidd]

Ha! Thought you knew already; it's a story I've told many times on IRC =)

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 28 novembre 2012 - 04:08 .

[cowoline]

Okay, I am lost (and please forgive me for being so). Has there been rumoured a DLC or is it something we assume. There is so little known about dragon age III... I want to know it all NOUWS!!!

/clears throat

Forgive me my enthusiasm

[Kidd]

cowoline wrote...

Okay, I am lost (and please forgive me for being so). Has there been rumoured a DLC or is it something we assume. There is so little known about dragon age III... I want to know it all NOUWS!!!

/clears throat

Forgive me my enthusiasm

We know nothing. We're speculating based on past game releases, such as DA2's The Exiled Prince and ME3's From Ashes.

[cowoline]

KiddDaBeauty wrote...

cowoline wrote...

Okay, I am lost (and please forgive me for being so). Has there been rumoured a DLC or is it something we assume. There is so little known about dragon age III... I want to know it all NOUWS!!!

/clears throat

Forgive me my enthusiasm

We know nothing. We're speculating based on past game releases, such as DA2's The Exiled Prince and ME3's From Ashes.

Thank you for clearing that up. Then let me add this; DLC character Shale was awesome! Sebastian not so much.
If you give us someone with a romance option let it be a proper one. Sebastian doesn't even give you a peck on your cheek.

[Bail_Darilar]

Bestyj669 wrote...

Bail_Darilar wrote...

I don't mind its stupid that people complain. It's not like its a new tactic that businesses have suddenly introduced to advertising and selling a product.

Just because it's not a "new tactic" doesn't make it right.

I still remember buying complete games on release.

So your saying that when a product comes out on the shelves no matter what it is and has a deluxe edition version with more content in it for you to buy you will complain because they should just package everything together? No this is how business's work no matter what the product or industry is, you pay for the content your given. And those 'complete' games you mention were during times when the distribution channels were nearly not as wide as they are now. It's not like companies weren't bringing our revisions with extra content in those days anyway focing gamers to shell out another lump of money for the same game plus abit... remember Street Fghter 2 and all the revisions?

Modifié par Bail_Darilar, 28 novembre 2012 - 04:28 .

[Fiery Phoenix]

Day One DLC is EA's decision, not BioWare's. In other words, yes, we're most definitely going to be seeing Day One DLC once again.