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[Yumi50]

I personally think it'd awesome and on par with LotSB if

depends on who we side with

-either of them can die.
-or both can survive but one of them will be the Queen of Omega, and the other will become our permanent squadmate.
-or one of them can still die, and the one survives can be Queen AND squadmate.
-or even no squadmate but when we save both, Omega, with Aria as Queen, goes in the different direction.
   1)side with Aria = both survive but Nyreen now agrees to do it Aria's way, ruthless Omega.
   2)side with Nyreen = both survive but Aria now becomes a little tiny bit more compassionate about Omega people.

Why....not? 

Again, I think ME3 is so fulled of missed opportunity which will never happen.

Modifié par Yumi50, 28 novembre 2012 - 08:53 .

[Hey]

Thes types of decisions would have definitely made it better. I think thats mostly what was missing.

Also, a night with the Aria if you play your cards right would be nice for those Shepards that play a bit loose with relationships...

[xsdob]

I think you already can change aria and the direction she takes her rule. If you side with nyreen and act as a paragon, she becomes more paragon herself and even curses shepard for rubbing off on her.

Would be nice to be able to save both, but I liked nyreens death and felt it had a nice foreshadowing that she would be willing to do something like that.

[Jazharah]

xsdob wrote...

I think you already can change aria and the direction she takes her rule. If you side with nyreen and act as a paragon, she becomes more paragon herself and even curses shepard for rubbing off on her.

Would be nice to be able to save both, but I liked nyreens death and felt it had a nice foreshadowing that she would be willing to do something like that.

The Paragon rubbing off on Aria is a bit bittersweet to me. Bitter, because it changes Aria in ways I think she should not have changed. Sweet because it's actually nice to see Shepard have influence rather than being influenced. Bit double-edged.

As for Nyreen's death - I found it totally uncalled for. There were only 6 Adjutants and I Aria and Shepard are practically around the corner. I really liked Nyreen and the possible romance that she and Aria could rekindle (even though both reject the idea ) I had no sense of foreshadowing whatsoever.

[xsdob]

Jazharah wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I think you already can change aria and the direction she takes her rule. If you side with nyreen and act as a paragon, she becomes more paragon herself and even curses shepard for rubbing off on her.

Would be nice to be able to save both, but I liked nyreens death and felt it had a nice foreshadowing that she would be willing to do something like that.

The Paragon rubbing off on Aria is a bit bittersweet to me. Bitter, because it changes Aria in ways I think she should not have changed. Sweet because it's actually nice to see Shepard have influence rather than being influenced. Bit double-edged.

As for Nyreen's death - I found it totally uncalled for. There were only 6 Adjutants and I Aria and Shepard are practically around the corner. I really liked Nyreen and the possible romance that she and Aria could rekindle (even though both reject the idea ) I had no sense of foreshadowing whatsoever.

8 adjudants from what I remember.

She didn't know you were around the corner, nor would she have lasted that long against all 6 of them ganging up on her. As far she she knew, she was basically dead in the water, so she was going to make sure they all died as well and didn't make anyone else turn into adjudants as well. The bubble is actually a means of ensuring that, it increases the ammount of damage the explosion will have(physics of enclosed explosions) and thus ensure they all die.

Her power also makes it where she can't move, so basically she made a choice and was fine with it as long as it protected the citizens from turning into these monsters. When she sees aria, her face does show regret in it fro what;s about to happen, but also acceptance, so I felt it was handled well.

At least she didn;t get turned into an adjudant, that would have really been uncalled for.

Modifié par xsdob, 28 novembre 2012 - 09:27 .

[Wowky]

xsdob wrote...
At least she didn;t get turned into an adjudant, that would have really been uncalled for.

Call me completely twisted, but that sounds like an absolutely awesome "oh **** son" moment for a story. But then again I like to be shocked when I play games/watch movies/read books/watch TV.

[BleedingUranium]

xsdob wrote...

8 adjudants from what I remember.

She didn't know you were around the corner, nor would she have lasted that long against all 6 of them ganging up on her. As far she she knew, she was basically dead in the water, so she was going to make sure they all died as well and didn't make anyone else turn into adjudants as well. The bubble is actually a means of ensuring that, it increases the ammount of damage the explosion will have(physics of enclosed explosions) and thus ensure they all die.

Her power also makes it where she can't move, so basically she made a choice and was fine with it as long as it protected the citizens from turning into these monsters. When she sees aria, her face does show regret in it fro what;s about to happen, but also acceptance, so I felt it was handled well.

At least she didn;t get turned into an adjudant, that would have really been uncalled for.

I fully agree with you, but I think you're missing the point. The problem is not that she died, but that no matter what you do she dies. And no matter what you do Aria can't.

Nyreen having to die annoys me.
Aria not being able to die annoys me.
Both of those together is even worse.

Nyreen >>>>>>> Aria

[Dominus]

I have to lean towards the OP's stance. One of the main themes of the Omega DLC was having a fragile alliance between ex-friends, put in the perilous situation of saving what's essentially their home turf. It's a missed opportunity that could've made the $15 price tag a bit closer to being worth it.

Also, a night with the Aria if you play your cards right.

Don't push your luck The kiss, even if you got it through renegade choices, felt awkward as all hell. It'd take an awful lot more than saving Omega to land in the bedroom.

Modifié par DominusVita, 28 novembre 2012 - 10:12 .

[MasterRed_ko7]

Jazharah wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I think you already can change aria and the direction she takes her rule. If you side with nyreen and act as a paragon, she becomes more paragon herself and even curses shepard for rubbing off on her.

Would be nice to be able to save both, but I liked nyreens death and felt it had a nice foreshadowing that she would be willing to do something like that.

The Paragon rubbing off on Aria is a bit bittersweet to me. Bitter, because it changes Aria in ways I think she should not have changed. Sweet because it's actually nice to see Shepard have influence rather than being influenced. Bit double-edged.

As for Nyreen's death - I found it totally uncalled for. There were only 6 Adjutants and I Aria and Shepard are practically around the corner. I really liked Nyreen and the possible romance that she and Aria could rekindle (even though both reject the idea ) I had no sense of foreshadowing whatsoever.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who though Nyreen's death was uncalled for. When I saw it a few hours ago, I was confused... if she had about ten of the new Reapers around her, then yeah, I would understand, but there were about four or five. Even with her fear of them, dying as she did, it felt really off.

To add to it, I felt no impact from it, at all. They expect you to feel loss from her death, where, in fact, you haven't had that long of a time to really get to know the character. Now if Aria died, that's a different story. We have known her since Mass Effect 2, while Nyreen for about an hour or two. I was also hoping she would join the group and let us have a new squad member, since a new one would be GREATLY appreciated by now (like a freaking Krogan! Come on! It doesn't feel right without a bad-ass Krogan fighting with me! DX ).


All in all, it was a bit disapointing. It was still fun to play, but it felt more like an ten dollar DLC than a 15 dollar one... and it was about as long as Leviathan as well, not twice as long as they said.

I don't know... did I miss something in the DLC? Did I not realize I could do something? 

[Dilandau3000]

xsdob wrote...

I think you already can change aria and the direction she takes her rule. If you side with nyreen and act as a paragon, she becomes more paragon herself and even curses shepard for rubbing off on her.

Would be nice to be able to save both, but I liked nyreens death and felt it had a nice foreshadowing that she would be willing to do something like that.

The thing that makes it so stupid is that those Adjutants were a cakewalk! I played on Hardcore, and they were really easy to kill (level 58 character, used a save from just before Cronos). If Nyreen had just ducked under cover then Shepard could've taken them out two seconds later without any problems.

For Nyreen's sacrifice to make any sense those Adjutants should've been as difficult as a Gold/Platinum difficulty possessed Scions from the MP. Or at the very least there should've been some sense that if she hadn't done that, Omega would be forever lost to the Adjutants, which is just utterly not the case.

Modifié par Dilandau3000, 28 novembre 2012 - 10:30 .

[Yumi50]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

The thing that makes it so stupid is that those Adjutants were a cakewalk! I played on Hardcore, and they were really easy to kill (level 58 character, used a save from just before Cronos). If Nyreen had just ducked under cover then Shepard could've taken them out two seconds later without any problems.

For Nyreen's sacrifice to make any sense those Adjutants should've been as difficult as a Gold/Platinum difficulty possessed Scions from the MP. Or at the very least there should've been some sense that if she hadn't done that, Omega would be forever lost to the Adjutants, which is just utterly not the case.

Yeah, 'the biggest DLC yet' and it's still less than 3 hours on insanity... 

[Jazharah]

Dilandau3000 wrote...

xsdob wrote...

I think you already can change aria and the direction she takes her rule. If you side with nyreen and act as a paragon, she becomes more paragon herself and even curses shepard for rubbing off on her.

Would be nice to be able to save both, but I liked nyreens death and felt it had a nice foreshadowing that she would be willing to do something like that.

The thing that makes it so stupid is that those Adjutants were a cakewalk! I played on Hardcore, and they were really easy to kill (level 58 character, used a save from just before Cronos). If Nyreen had just ducked under cover then Shepard could've taken them out two seconds later without any problems.

For Nyreen's sacrifice to make any sense those Adjutants should've been as difficult as a Gold/Platinum difficulty possessed Scions from the MP. Or at the very least there should've been some sense that if she hadn't done that, Omega would be forever lost to the Adjutants, which is just utterly not the case.

Exactly. Personally I played on Insanity @ lvl60 (NG++) and after killing the first I was like "wut? Sure, the DoT biotic field thingie is a bit annoying but these are hardly tougher than cannibals!"

Even if there'd been 8, Nyreen could have handled it just slightly differently and would have survived. There's hundreds of different scenario's that would have made more sense. ~le sigh~

[Solas]

When I was playing through it I thought it was building up to something along those lines, OP.

[Amirit]

I am not even asking for a squad-mate. But why on earth did not they make her and her "gang" a war asset? Would not a person like Nyreen rather fight reapers? Seriously, that would be an awesome turian squad. Ah, well..

[LilLino]

Even if she wasn't a squadmate, I think that renegade/paragon should've decided her life. I mean, no Aria/Nyreen choice, but...

If you're renegade, Aria/You basically let her die, because Aria perceives her as a threat and restriction.

If you're paragon, you save her, as Aria realizes she needs a voice of reason on Omega.

Boom, here you go, she can live/die depending on our morality/choices and is in match with epilogue we get.
But no, a cool new character dies killing 6 guys I eat for breakfast.

Of course, I'm not against OP ideas, just saying this would be easier and still less absurd&sad than what we are getting. Also simple to do.

[Cecilia L]

Agree with OP.

Maybe if you stabilized all Talon gang members you can find, they could help her save civilians so that she doesn't have to suicidebomb the adjutants?

[challenger18]

When I got to know Nyreen I honestly thought it was going to be a choice of which one I need to pick to rule over Omega. I was really surprised when she (needlessly) died.

[Spectre Impersonator]

The whole DLC was a missed opportunity. It didn't help anything. I want my money back.

[born2beagator]

JohnShepard12 wrote...

The whole DLC was a missed opportunity. It didn't help anything. I want my money back.

Too bad it doesn't work that way, I feel the same as you.  Not sure why bioware thought anyone would like the way they did this DLC.  What drew me to the story was the curiousity of a female turian, I had all these visions of having her on the squad or at least a permanent part of the game.  What bioware did was downright lazy IMO

[Cecilia L]

I don't care if I never get to see her again in ME3, it would have been nice to leave Omega, knowing that Nyreen was still there taking care of things.

[shodiswe]

Nyreen probably didn't want to get turned into an adjutant herself, seeing how horrible it had been for her to watch it happen to her friends.

It's also a reminder that it isn't supposed to be a shooter gallery on the tivoli, but a fight for survival.

[PanzerGr3nadier]

shodiswe wrote...

Nyreen probably didn't want to get turned into an adjutant herself, seeing how horrible it had been for her to watch it happen to her friends.

It's also a reminder that it isn't supposed to be a shooter gallery on the tivoli, but a fight for survival.

0:00 - 0:37


Its funny how she shows throughout the dlc how capable she is in combat situations but at the last assault, she herp derps totally and goes straight to the suicide option.

I'm going to take a round 2 (full paragon) on the Omega and if Nyreen's faith is truly set in stone, then may Goddess have mercy on my keyboard.

Edit; Oh and of course; Pre-order cancelled.

Modifié par PanzerGr3nadier, 04 décembre 2012 - 04:56 .

[AlexMBrennan]

Nope. Can't give the player any choices (not that the ruler of Omega would have changed anything at all - it's not like you spend all that much time talking to Aria anyway), so Nyreen gets to die in the most contrived way possible.

[Jonathan Shepard]

This sort of thing would've been really appreciated. Or SOME way to let Nyreen live.

Maybe blowing up the Reactor could've also killed most of the Adjutants in those areas, so Nyreen never has to sacrifice herself. But nope, you press that button, all those people die for no reason.