Dont need to explain anything further than in the title. I've been toying with that idea for a while.
Would the Geth and EDI have understood and been willing to sacrifice themselves in destroy?
Débuté par
HiddenInWar
, nov. 28 2012 05:28
#1
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 05:28
#2
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 05:30
I think the geth would have been surprised by Shepard's reluctance to upload himself to another platform. That's pretty much like destroying a civilization because you're reluctant to change clothes.
#3
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 05:33
I think so, yes. Legion sacrificed himself for the sake peace. Would they argue against it, most definitely. The Legion sacrifice would seem pointless because the Geth would die regardless, but I don't really know if the Geth would reach a "consensus" - no data available seems likely.
EDI has a lot to live for as well, with her new "state" of being sort of speak. It's tough, I guess it depends on how you view their arcs and such.
EDI has a lot to live for as well, with her new "state" of being sort of speak. It's tough, I guess it depends on how you view their arcs and such.
#4
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 05:35
It meant stopping the Reapers, I'm sure they'd understand.
#5
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 05:49
Yes... in fact doesn't EDI state she's willing to risk everything to stop the Reapers?
#6
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 05:49
Shepard: Admiral, I have just met the self-proclaimed leader of the Reapers. He looks like a boy from my dreams, but that's totally not suspicious.
Hackett: Erm, what?
Shepard: He claims destroying the Reapers will also kill EDI and the Geth, but tells me there are two other ways of stopping the Reapers. We can either control them exactly like The Illusive Man claimed, or I can jump into a magic beam and spread my essence to every living being in the galaxy and create a techno-organic utopia where we live peacefully side by side with the Reapers. All three options require me to die. Can I get EDI and the Geth on the line for their opinion?
Hackett: I'm sorry, kid, but you've only left me with one option. Everybody, bomb the Citadel, Shepard's been indoctrinated!
Hackett: Erm, what?
Shepard: He claims destroying the Reapers will also kill EDI and the Geth, but tells me there are two other ways of stopping the Reapers. We can either control them exactly like The Illusive Man claimed, or I can jump into a magic beam and spread my essence to every living being in the galaxy and create a techno-organic utopia where we live peacefully side by side with the Reapers. All three options require me to die. Can I get EDI and the Geth on the line for their opinion?
Hackett: I'm sorry, kid, but you've only left me with one option. Everybody, bomb the Citadel, Shepard's been indoctrinated!
Modifié par grey_wind, 28 novembre 2012 - 06:06 .
#7
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 05:59
To tell the truth, in my mind, with a high EMS they get hurt, but I doubt they're dead. The Starkid makes a reference to Shep being part synthetic, therefore Shep should worry about being killed (his synthetic parts are like, on important things. Like her heart and the parts of his CNS responsible for BREATHING), but she can live.
So, I guess what I'm saying is speculation for everyone!
You get a speculation, and you get a speculation, and I want to punch myself in the face! 8D
So, I guess what I'm saying is speculation for everyone!
You get a speculation, and you get a speculation, and I want to punch myself in the face! 8D
#8
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:01
No. Geth are cowards.
#9
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:05
Yes.
#10
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:07
Lenimph wrote...
Yes... in fact doesn't EDI state she's willing to risk everything to stop the Reapers?
"I would risk non-functionality for Jeff"
"To the death"
#11
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:07
I'd imagine so.
#12
Guest_ZacTB_*
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:11
Guest_ZacTB_*
No, not when there are other methods in stopping the Reapers.
#13
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:14
No, of course not. One might sacrifice oneself for those he loves but not one ever will sacrifice the entirety of one's people for others.
#14
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:15
Edi would totally understand. But the Geth? I don't think so. They are selfish pricks!
#15
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:18
Lenimph wrote...
Yes... in fact doesn't EDI state she's willing to risk everything to stop the Reapers?
indeed - she altered her core program, to be able to sacrifice herself, to protect her friends and especially joker.
Modifié par Dr_Extrem, 28 novembre 2012 - 06:26 .
#16
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:22
I think the general consensus is that EDI would lay down her life to kill the reapers and protect her friends. She probably wouldn't like it, but she would also see the reasoning behind it, and I doubt she would try to convince Shepard to make a subpar decision for her sake (especially when the other options entail certain death for Shepard, she wouldn't ask him to die for her).
Geth on the other hand I believe have made it perfectly clear that they value survival above any and all other costs. They maybe would accept it if there was no other option judging by some unused dialogue, but given the presence of control and synthesis, I doubt you would ever get them on board.
Geth on the other hand I believe have made it perfectly clear that they value survival above any and all other costs. They maybe would accept it if there was no other option judging by some unused dialogue, but given the presence of control and synthesis, I doubt you would ever get them on board.
Modifié par justafan, 28 novembre 2012 - 06:23 .
#17
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:23
The Geth? No way. In a destroy Geth version of Rannoch, Legion states that "they will not allow they're fate to be decided." Because of the presentation of other options, the Geth would surely be opposed to destroy. Don't forget that Legion attempted to murder Shepard for "deciding their fate".
EDI? She'd understand but would vouch for synthesis.
EDI? She'd understand but would vouch for synthesis.
#18
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:28
Destroy alone, no. Given that other options exist, however, yes.
#19
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:28
Maybe. Maybe not.
But they're opinion on RGB was never asked.
But they're opinion on RGB was never asked.
#20
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:30
Ofcourse not, Legion tried to kill you the time he realised you were letting the quarians win. Self preservation supercedes just about anything.
#21
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:30
EDI would. Geth likely wouldn't (depends on how you interpret "There will be no compromise with the Old Machines." If they mean it like Rorschach, then they might).
EDI says the Reapers are repulsive because they're dedicated to nothing but self-preservation. She says she's different. She also notes that her thought process is fundamentally different from the Geth's gestalt consciousness, allowing her to perceive organics as individuals and better interact with them.
EDI says the Reapers are repulsive because they're dedicated to nothing but self-preservation. She says she's different. She also notes that her thought process is fundamentally different from the Geth's gestalt consciousness, allowing her to perceive organics as individuals and better interact with them.
Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 28 novembre 2012 - 06:39 .
#22
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:40
Maybe or maybe not. The point is, they don't get to make that choice. YOU make that choice for them. So **** everyone who says they're against the other endings because it's not Shepard's decision to choose Control or Synthesis for everyone.
#23
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:41
EDI, yes.
Geth I'm unsure of. Legion sacrificed himself to preserve his own kind, even if it meant killing the Quarians. If the Quarians die a Geth Prime will later proclaim tha the Geth are fighting for their own future, independent of the Reapers. The Geth have always valued self preservation and the preservation of their kind highly. If Destroy was the only option, I could see them agreeing with it reluctantly, but when other options are available? I really don't think they'd be all for it.
Geth I'm unsure of. Legion sacrificed himself to preserve his own kind, even if it meant killing the Quarians. If the Quarians die a Geth Prime will later proclaim tha the Geth are fighting for their own future, independent of the Reapers. The Geth have always valued self preservation and the preservation of their kind highly. If Destroy was the only option, I could see them agreeing with it reluctantly, but when other options are available? I really don't think they'd be all for it.
#24
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:44
The Geth were willing to join the reapers to ensure their survival on Rannock. I think the geth might have instantly switched sides over Earth if they heard Shepherd even considered it. They would propose synthesis since that is something the strived for.
Modifié par King Ptolemy IV, 28 novembre 2012 - 06:47 .
#25
Posté 28 novembre 2012 - 06:53
DeinonSlayer wrote...
EDI says the Reapers are repulsive because they're dedicated to nothing but self-preservation.
Well she turned out to be wrong on that one.





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