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[The Six Path of Pain]

JWvonGoethe wrote...

TheJediSaint wrote...

Good thing I'm a PC gamer.

It hasn't been officially confirmed for PC yet. It almost certainly will come out for PC, of course, but you might get a long delay even so.

If that is the case at least by then the PC gamers will know if the game is good or if it sucks lol

[TacticalAce]

The real question. Was the frosbite 2 engine built for current gen and next gen?

[Atakuma]

TacticalAce wrote...

The real question. Was the frosbite 2 engine built for current gen and next gen?

Yes.

[Plaintiff]

Anything Kotaku reports is not worth discussing.

[Northern Sun]

I don't really have an inherent problem with it, but my best guess is on the Xbox 720/PS 4 costing at least $500 when they come out, and I'm not going to make that investment until there's a price drop and/or the release of several great games exclusive to that console.

[Costin_Razvan]

TacticalAce wrote...

The real question. Was the frosbite 2 engine built for current gen and next gen?

Yes.

Also Frostbite 2 can handle huge maps on the Xbox 360 and PS3 with 24 players in BF3 right now and they are improving it.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:18 .

[TacticalAce]

Atakuma wrote...

TacticalAce wrote...

The real question. Was the frosbite 2 engine built for current gen and next gen?

Yes.

Then it is pretty much a very high possibility that this is true. And it make sense being that Next gen consoles will be announced next year. With all of the negativity that bioware has gotten I dont think it would be a smart move for bioware to do DA3 for current gen only when next gen will be here shortly.

[Quill74Pen]

rapscallioness wrote...

Well, according to this latest rumor, next gen my be announced right b4 E3 2013. Sooo...I could see it happening if BW doesn't release DA3 until late 2013. Ah, but still speculations nonetheless.

www.vg247.com/2012/11/01/ps4_details_playstation_4/

Hmm. Well, according to the linked story, developers will not get the final Orbis kit until sometime in the summer of 2013. With that in mind, isn't it a bit hard to launch the new PS4 in fall 2013 if developers have had only a few months prior to that time to work with the final, spec-ready Orbis kit?

And, as much as I love the DA series, I don't know if I can remain interested on any substantial level if the game isn't coming out until sometime in mid- to late 2014.

[Quill74Pen]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

TacticalAce wrote...

The real question. Was the frosbite 2 engine built for current gen and next gen?

Yes.

Also Frostbite 2 can handle huge maps on the Xbox 360 and PS3 with 24 players in BF3 right now and they are improving it.

24-player maps, huh? Wow. I'm so not impressed — and, yes, I'm a console gamer.

My disdain isn't personal. It's based on experience with a PS3-exclusive first-person shooter known as MAG (Massive Action Game) that was capable of hosting 256-player matches on gigantic maps. The graphics aren't up to CoD or BF3 standards, but I'd sacrifice graphics any day if it means more, real, live human players to face off against in a match on a huge map.

[hexaligned]

Good.

[Doctoglethorpe]

Its probable and I've suspected it from the start.

[Mark of the Dragon]

As long as I get to import all my descisions for each game I am good with it. However for those arguing it is probably worth noting they will release DA3 on both Microsofts and Sony's next consoles. I do not see them cutting there income by favoring one system. It might even hit nintendo's.

[Mr Arg]

This is tough... Buy a new console? Or grudgingly grind through the PC controls (after console I just couldn't get through DA2 on PC)? As much money as that would cost, I reserve certain games for each platform; console it is.

[sycophanticchallenger]

I'm honestly shocked at the amount of people hemming and hawing over a couple hundred bucks for a console. It's been SEVEN YEARS. I'm so tired of waiting for a new console that I've gone back to PC gaming. Seriously... there is over a YEAR left to save for a new console. At 26 pay periods a year, that's $23.08 a paycheck assuming a 600 dollar console price tag (which is a highly unlikely price-point). Take the money every payday, put it in a jar and BAM, new console at release.

I am so incredibly sick of this gen's consoles. I'm sick of their ridiculous whirring fan noises, drive noises, stuttery frame rates, low-res textures. HD gaming my ass.

This delay and a jump to next generation consoles has really excited me about the prospects of the future of the franchise.

Modifié par sycophanticchallenger, 29 novembre 2012 - 02:48 .

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Here's an article from back in September discussing the possibility of a 360/ 720 release of Dragon Age III: Inquisition. The most interesting part of the article as far as the possibility of release on both systems is this,

"Darrah did emphasize that new technology will be under Dragon Age III’s
hood. “We are working on a new engine which we believe will allow us to
delivery a more expansive world, better visuals, more reactivity to
player choices, and more customization,” said the producer, “We’ve
started with Frostbite 2 from DICE as a foundation to accomplish this.”
The same engine used to build Battlefield 3, Frostbite 2 was
designed as a scalable base so games can be built for both old console
technology like Microsoft and Sony’s current consoles, high-end PCs, and
the next generation of console technology expected on the market by the
end of 2013."

In all likelihood I won't have to buy a new console right away. I'll be happy in the knowledge that, barring potential bugs, that my save file transfers should work just fine and my choices from previous games, whichever the story of DA III chooses to reflect, will be accounted for.

If it turns out that the next gen version boasts more than just prettier graphics, I'll eventually buy the next gen version of the game (in addition to my earlier purchase of the same title for 360, of course) whenever I buy the new console and start a brand new set of characters whose starting point is based on a questionnaire or interactive comic or whatever BioWare has planned for folks who haven't played a Dragon Age game before or if transfers are possible between console generations, I'll just save a few of my linked playthroughs from previous games for just such a purpose.

We don't know why rumors hint towards a 2014 release. We don't know which consoles will be included until BioWare officially unveils the game in the Spring. Until then we're just speculating, which I'll readily admit I'm doing as well.

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 29 novembre 2012 - 04:13 .

[JWvonGoethe]

Thanks ToW for all that information.

There are only a few reasons for Bioware being coy about which platforms DA3 will be released on as far as I can see:

1. It's next-generation and they don't want to implicitly confirm the next XBOX and Playstation.
2. They don't know what generation of consoles it will be released for yet.
3. It may have Kinect functionality.

Maybe a fourth reason could be that they don't know if it will even be released across all current-generation platforms yet (so it could be a PS3 or XBOX exclusive, or might not come to PC.) I think this one is unlikely.

Or they are just deliberately being vague to court speculation, thus keeping DA3 in people's minds. Perhaps the most plausible of all the reasons for the cynically minded BSN forumite.

Modifié par JWvonGoethe, 29 novembre 2012 - 04:25 .

[FreezaSama]

I'm sure it's going to happen, and I'm also sure this won't be the last title to be pushed to the next-gen consoles. It's the smart move at this point.

[VanDraegon]

Assuming there is truth in this bit of rumor....

Delay DA3 into '14 is fine with me as long as it evolves into a game where a 100+ hour play through is possible, like DA:O. Lots of time to refine the game into another epic game of the year.

I only own a pc for gaming so the next gen issue isnt one for me. I will however most likely buy a next gen Xbox since my son will shortly be at the age where he can play such games.

[Clert]

This doesn't add up.

The LinkedIn page - the source - in question has been taken down so we can't see exactly what was written. But the Shanghai developer is relatively distant from the project and English isn't his first language judging by the "[sics]" in the quote. The source is questionable.

Superannuation also suggests the source is referring to the May-rumoured release date slip, which was based on a financial call and Michael Pachter's analysis. Even if DA3 had slipped from fiscal 2013 to fiscal 2014 back then, the date EA announced months later in September when the game was formally announced - "late 2013" - still fits. So why would EA announce "late 2013" in September if a delay to 2014 was already on the cards?

Mind you, these things are possible. BioWare has been doing Sprint Reviews recently - presumably having outside eyes review slices of the game to check everything's OK - so something could have come up that forced a significant delay. The more I think about this, the weaker the argument seems, but anything is possible - although I'd far easier believe talk of a delay six months after announcement rather than two.

As to the complete next-gen transition: If the game isn't delayed (and I don't believe it is), why would EA release a next-gen only game in late 2013 when the new consoles have only just started selling? 

This is EA; it would be bad business to ignore the, by comparison, huge installed bases of the PS3 and 360. This isn't a system exclusive designed to launch a console.

Dragon Age 3 is far more likely a cross-generational release, which means it will be on PC, PS3, 360, PS4 (assuming it's out), Next Xbox  and maybe Wii U. Those new-gen versions will be close to the PC build - think of the difference between Battlefield 3 on PC and Battlefield 3 on console.

[Doctoglethorpe]

In regards to the delay, while I still don't take anything away from this "leak" at all, I still fully expect the game to wind up delayed to early 2014. EA does it all the time.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Current gen systems can handle Frostbite 2. Battlefield 3 is available on the 360 and it uses that version of Frostbite.

However, if delaying means a more complete game for whichever platforms it will be released on, I'm all for it!

[Kajagoogoo3]

Dabrikishaw wrote...

I don't plan to move on to next gen for a while, so I'd be disappointed if this is true.

[Scarlet Rabbi]

I can't see a corporation ignoring the huge number of sales they'd lose if they developed this strictly for nex-gen. Simply brushing Aside aside the millions of PS3 and 360 users. Not likely. It'll probably be released for both generations.

[N7KnightSabre]

This isn't a good thing for console gamers as well as the company. New systems cost money and usually have a crummy line-up of releases with it. It takes a couple years to get a decent amount of good games and that effects sales of the platform. I'm not gonna buy a new system simply for one game. Which makes me sad that I can't play the new DA but I can be patient.