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upinya slayin

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Zero132132 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

I wonder if this is a test, a test to see how the community responds to a devs advice on solo'ing, and if we respond negatively (which it seems like we have) and rip into him (to an extent), they'll punish us further.

x_x

BSN is full of trolls , haters, immaturity, and overall just bad posters. The fact a BW dev is getting flamed for a blocg post on his experiance going for the lone wolf banner is just a new low.

This is a set of recommendations he's making to people, though, and the only thing people have really criticized is his build. It kind of deserves some criticism, though. Do you disagree?


his intro is

My hunt to complete the Solo Mastery challenge began with many failed
attempts. The prized “Lone Wolf” banner lets everyone know you’re a
skilled enough player to extract while playing completely alone on
Bronze difficulty 10 times, Silver 5 times, Gold twice, or Platinum
once.  Achieving this banner is very gratifying, and I learned a great
deal in the process that might help you obtain it, too,
if you haven’t
already. (And before you ask: there aren’t any BioWare cheats. I had to
complete the challenge fair and square just like you.)


Based on the statement i don't think its really advice but more of what he learned while doing it and maybe some people can use some of it to help them. Now do i think anything he did there was "ideal" absolutly not. But Ideal or not it worked. too many people get caught up on getting hte most out of every kit and layout. Sure he used 2 of the 3 most OP layouts for soloing (the 3rd being kroguard) but not eveyrone can volus platinum solo. I know i can't. were all limited by our skill level. The most skilled players can take a bad layout or bad DD and solo a platinum while mos tpeople can't do it with the best possible everything.

Yes in the process mistakes were made that don't make any sense. Like the bonus power evolution on TC but no overload. its a waste of 6 points. but in essence is the same as running a level 19 TGI speccing 5 into cloak. its not somehting that is game breaking by any means

Personally you know me (we have played some games together) and while i do give advice on "best possible builds" it doens't mean i use said builds all the time. I like to try different things out and mess aorund and have a good time while playing. I would never give a stupid or crazy build out as advice unless someone asks for one, but i have people give them to me to try out all the time. And i enjoy it.

There are lots more advice from more experianced players on the forums on builds then BW can possibly offer. cause there busy making the game and doing other stuff instead of dumping 1000 hours into ME3 MP like some people have. You cna't expect them to know as much even if it is their game. its like expecting someone who designed the interior of a ford mustang to know more anout its engine then someone who has over 1000 hours working on engines in their spare time out of fun.

Alot of people want to give BW crap for not being elite at a game they created. Instead as fans we should be happy that BW has so much pride in their product that they play it just becuase its fun and that they provide feedback of their experiances of playing it. not many devs do that. Too many people want to focus on the negatives of things on BSN and on life in general. I tend to focus on the positives.

thats just my .02 though

#127
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Listing two different shotguns tells me he used different weapons on different matches. Obviously, he could make that more clear, but that's my best guess at a logical explanation.

If that's the case, perhaps he's also accidentally mixed two different builds. Perhaps one had Overload and one did not, thus making some sense of the listed build. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I'm hoping that the problem here is unclear writing rather than just straight up bad advice.

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Lone Wolf was unfairly easy, I can't believe people are still having issues. If you can't solo Platinum as a chargeless Drell Vanguard and a Predator, just kill yourself already and save me the indignity of PUGing with a scrub like you.

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Fair or not, I would say some of the vitriol in this thread has come out because of the lack of recognition regarding the Huntress problems. People might be a bit more jovial about this if there hadn't been an all day silence about that.

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@slayin'

Yeah, I guess I can see that, but as the developer, people are always going to give more attention than they probably should. Maybe not. The pool of people still playing this game has to be getting small enough by now that a fair chunk are on BSN, or at least know how to do their own builds.

Most of it was still generally good advice. Well, except maybe the bit where he says "the Collectors are a 'jack of all trades' faction: decent at everything, but great at nothing," since Collectors are absolutely great at everything. He still says they're tough to solo against, but that one line and the build are what got me scratching my head.

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Another collector weakness I have noticed is that the troopers and captains have enormous heads. Very easy to shoot them there, and they go down fast.

#132
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Lighten up guys - it's a blog post. Although the build portion is off, it mostly contains good general advice, and obviously isn't aimed at the advanced player.

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DullahansXMark wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

This is a set of recommendations he's making to people, though, and the only thing people have really criticized is his build. It kind of deserves some criticism, though. Do you disagree?


Are the builds weird? Hell yeah they are. Do they make practical sense? Not really.

Did he still get Solo Mastery completed? Hell yeah. That deserves some proper recognition.


Is that guy soultaker actually Corey?

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Zero132132 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

I wonder if this is a test, a test to see how the community responds to a devs advice on solo'ing, and if we respond negatively (which it seems like we have) and rip into him (to an extent), they'll punish us further.

x_x

BSN is full of trolls , haters, immaturity, and overall just bad posters. The fact a BW dev is getting flamed for a blocg post on his experiance going for the lone wolf banner is just a new low.

This is a set of recommendations he's making to people, though, and the only thing people have really criticized is his build. It kind of deserves some criticism, though. Do you disagree?

Not at all, but it's a trap.


DullahansXMark wrote...

>BioWare dev gets challenge completed
>Forum checks the builds
>BioWare dev uses wonky builds
>Forum deems them incompetent

This made me laugh very hard.

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Well at least he didn't kroguard geth.

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upinya slayin wrote...

Zero132132 wrote...

upinya slayin wrote...

Dest1ny wrote...

I wonder if this is a test, a test to see how the community responds to a devs advice on solo'ing, and if we respond negatively (which it seems like we have) and rip into him (to an extent), they'll punish us further.

x_x

BSN is full of trolls , haters, immaturity, and overall just bad posters. The fact a BW dev is getting flamed for a blocg post on his experiance going for the lone wolf banner is just a new low.

This is a set of recommendations he's making to people, though, and the only thing people have really criticized is his build. It kind of deserves some criticism, though. Do you disagree?


his intro is

My hunt to complete the Solo Mastery challenge began with many failed
attempts. The prized “Lone Wolf” banner lets everyone know you’re a
skilled enough player to extract while playing completely alone on
Bronze difficulty 10 times, Silver 5 times, Gold twice, or Platinum
once.  Achieving this banner is very gratifying, and I learned a great
deal in the process that might help you obtain it, too,
if you haven’t
already. (And before you ask: there aren’t any BioWare cheats. I had to
complete the challenge fair and square just like you.)


Based on the statement i don't think its really advice but more of what he learned while doing it and maybe some people can use some of it to help them. Now do i think anything he did there was "ideal" absolutly not. But Ideal or not it worked. too many people get caught up on getting hte most out of every kit and layout. Sure he used 2 of the 3 most OP layouts for soloing (the 3rd being kroguard) but not eveyrone can volus platinum solo. I know i can't. were all limited by our skill level. The most skilled players can take a bad layout or bad DD and solo a platinum while mos tpeople can't do it with the best possible everything.

Yes in the process mistakes were made that don't make any sense. Like the bonus power evolution on TC but no overload. its a waste of 6 points. but in essence is the same as running a level 19 TGI speccing 5 into cloak. its not somehting that is game breaking by any means

Personally you know me (we have played some games together) and while i do give advice on "best possible builds" it doens't mean i use said builds all the time. I like to try different things out and mess aorund and have a good time while playing. I would never give a stupid or crazy build out as advice unless someone asks for one, but i have people give them to me to try out all the time. And i enjoy it.

There are lots more advice from more experianced players on the forums on builds then BW can possibly offer. cause there busy making the game and doing other stuff instead of dumping 1000 hours into ME3 MP like some people have. You cna't expect them to know as much even if it is their game. its like expecting someone who designed the interior of a ford mustang to know more anout its engine then someone who has over 1000 hours working on engines in their spare time out of fun.

Alot of people want to give BW crap for not being elite at a game they created. Instead as fans we should be happy that BW has so much pride in their product that they play it just becuase its fun and that they provide feedback of their experiances of playing it. not many devs do that. Too many people want to focus on the negatives of things on BSN and on life in general. I tend to focus on the positives.

thats just my .02 though



Beautiful post but I gotta call you out. You know you can solo with a Volus :wizard:

Awhile back I suggested to a BioWare dev they should recruit a talented community member to help test. This is very common in 'MMO' games for instance. But he did not seem keen on that idea. But like you just pointed out- hard to expect a BioWare dev to blow 1000+ hours on ME3 MP. They probably spent that much time trying to make it easily

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upinya slayin wrote...

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I just want to know if AP rounds actually work on the Acolyte but considering his other build choices I'm inclined to think it was just bad choosing on his end.


the acolyte gets a -50% damage to armor naturally. AP rounds will balance that out, but doens't let it pierce anyhting.

So in short it works on the damage it does to armor, but you cna't piece walls or a guardians shields or anything


Eeerm, no it doesnt. Acolyte does 1x damage to armor and health, and 5x damage to barriers and shields. It also ignores shield gate and armor damage reduction.

Modifié par Relix28, 28 novembre 2012 - 11:12 .


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Appreciate the work that went into the blog however, this would be a good reason to sticky that massive Build thread thats been floating around lately. :)

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upinya slayin wrote...

The fact a BW dev is getting flamed for a blocg post on his experiance going for the lone wolf banner is just a new low.


Most comments seem to be criticisim, not flaming.  Certainly they could be more constructive (some posts are), but little vitriol.

While its commendable to blog ones journey, the information is not always well explained, and the design choices are sub optimal.  Yes one dosent have to use optimal builds, but when giving advice, as a developer of the game, you'd think you'd just be a little bit more careful at giving out the best advice possible.
Eg:  "i used warfighter because I lack other grenade gear:  shock trooper would be better for this build, or go for as many as possible with pure grenade gear.".

Tl;dr  blog dev is noob wtf lol inb4kickfromlobby etc

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The actual gameplay advice is good advice for people new to soloing, but the builds seem silly.

To each their own.

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I just woke up and that was a terrible read... and i agree its criticism because there are obvious inconsistencies with the build.

Ghost
-TC Power but no Overload
-Warfighter but no AR

GI
-No gear.
-TC rank 5 but no rank in fitness so 6 pts are being wasted

I find the comment about Collectors funny that they are not great at anything... what about their wall hacks?!?!?

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Annomander wrote...

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LOL, geth infiltrator.

Real men solo platinum with a volus.


Nothing is "real" in a game or on the internet.

Anyway, gaming tips from dev, that's first I know and kinda sweet.


Check his TGI build. maxes everything except overload, but then takes bonus power @ rank 6 TC, and power damage at rank 4 armiger legion.....

WHEN HE HAS NO POINTS IN OVERLOAD?

The day I take build tips from a dev is the day I take tips from a bronze / silver player.

Its not happening.

I'm guessing you've also yet to solo platinum with anything thats not kroguard / reetard carbine?

:police:


Chill out bro. Those are all valid tips for someone who's never attempted a solo, and the guy probably made a mistake when typing out his build, cut him some slack. No need to be an @ss about it.

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L45TN7 wrote...

I just woke up and that was a terrible read... and i agree its criticism because there are obvious inconsistencies with the build.

Ghost
-TC Power but no Overload
-Warfighter but no AR

GI
-No gear.
-TC rank 5 but no rank in fitness so 6 pts are being wasted

I find the comment about Collectors funny that they are not great at anything... what about their wall hacks?!?!?


Dev might not have any other Gear that gives the player more grenades, and his Infiltrators could have been level 19.

Grasping at straws, though. :pinched:

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L45TN7 wrote...

I find the comment about Collectors funny that they are not great at anything... what about their wall hacks?!?!?


I agree. Not to mention that as soon as the pretorians come out (wave1 plat, wave3 gold) collectors become a much better rush/heavy pressure faction than the reapers ever were.

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Star fury wrote...

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mrcanada wrote...

Dharvy wrote...

He posted a lot of mistakes, I think he have to go back and edit it. But the reason he used warfighter was probably that was the best gear he had for the grenades.


He's the designer. They have the ability to unlock everything from their workstations and kits. This is how the demo upcoming DLC at shows anyway.


There's no reason to believe that they can unlock stuff for their personal accounts.

They can unlock and they do unlock. One of devs had Valiant X when there were only 6 or 7 operations.


For testing. Bryan and Derek have already confirmed personal accounts are the same as ours, and Bryan didn't have maxed stuff when I played with him, and neither did Sylv.

Modifié par Xaijin, 29 novembre 2012 - 12:37 .


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Why would one use Warfighter and not use an AR

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P51Mus7ang wrote...

Why would one use Warfighter and not use an AR


Maybe he doesn't have any other Gear that adds grenades? :o

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Homey C-Dawg wrote...

L45TN7 wrote...

I find the comment about Collectors funny that they are not great at anything... what about their wall hacks?!?!?


I agree. Not to mention that as soon as the pretorians come out (wave1 plat, wave3 gold) collectors become a much better rush/heavy pressure faction than the reapers ever were.


Collector Captains are maurader 2.0 imo.  Perfect aim while strafing and more sustained fire.  I had Hunter Mode on once and watched one of those guys start shooting at me perfectly before he rounded a corner.  Only right hand soft cover kept me from getting killed.  It was like he had Hunter Mode on too.  :o/

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So Come on guys, what 10 things did we learn from the blog post "10 things I learnt from soloing" blog?

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You guys also need to realize that he wrote this based on his personal account, believe it or not we have to earn all the equipment ourselves we dont get anything for free.

So Corey doesn't have everything maxed out, you are offering some criticisms without knowing what is actually available to him.