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[najzere]

Most of the criticisms have nothing to do with his gear.

[soultaker65]

Ignoring the builds these are some great tips in general for players new to the game.

I know just about every poster on the MP forums knows every one of these tip by heart, but they are still good tips.

As for the builds maybe he got two different build mixed up.

[Shampoohorn]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

You guys also need to realize that he wrote this based on his personal account, believe it or not we have to earn all the equipment ourselves we dont get anything for free.

So Corey doesn't have everything maxed out, you are offering some criticisms without knowing what is actually available to him.

I love that Corey is making an effort and getting some gameplay advice out there.  You guys did a little bit of this when the game first came out -- with your Strategy Guides --  but otherwise it's been a long drought.  That said, it seems a good chunk of the build critique is fair and perhaps even mild compared to how people would react if a non-dev were to make that post here in the MP forum.  I can't speak for everybody, but I have higher hopes from a dev blog post.

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:15 .

[Cellodanceparty]

Fixx21 wrote...

best characters

1 Turian Ghost
2. Quarian Infiltrator ( Male )
3. Salarian Infiltrator
4. Destroyer
5. Geth Infiltrator
6. Krogan Vanguard
7. Shadow
8. Asari Vanguard
9. Turian Soldier ( Original )
10. Turian Sentinel
11. Asari Sentinel
12. Fury
13. Turian Havoc Soldier
14. Krogan Soldier
15. Geth Trooper

No drell on the list. No me gusta. 

[bydoritos]

Great post

[Ogrinash]

Soloing Platinum and Gold is a worthy accomplishment.

It's one of the harder challenges in gaming history as far as I've seen.

[Tsouks]

Wow. Just wow. It's feels like most of you posting in here are children. Spoiled ones too.
So much for that "how old are you" thread.

Way to treat someone who tried to help others.
Sometimes I honestly cannot believe how they put up with us and don't just quit.

[Xetto]

oXTheReverendXo wrote...

Listing two different shotguns tells me he used different weapons on different matches. Obviously, he could make that more clear, but that's my best guess at a logical explanation.

If that's the case, perhaps he's also accidentally mixed two different builds. Perhaps one had Overload and one did not, thus making some sense of the listed build. Maybe I'm being optimistic, but I'm hoping that the problem here is unclear writing rather than just straight up bad advice.

Its pure crap and i would have shot myself in shame if i wrote a "guide" where i tell to take bonus dmg for overload and then not speccing overload at all. Or telling people to bring 2 shotguns, where a person that have played 1 hour knows this is not possible.

No wonder they have balancing issues if its terds like that they base their knowlege upon.

Edit: And it doesent really matter if he mixed 2 builds by mistake, that just makes it more embarrassing.

Modifié par Tecco, 29 novembre 2012 - 01:58 .

[FlowCytometry]

Erm, some odd statements, esp concerning the pros and cons to each faction that are a bit telling. The builds.. should be ignored, sadly; they are just flawed and would confuse or mislead anyone newer to ME3 MP. In general the advice is good, though. A for effort?

[Ogrinash]

The two shotguns would be one or the other. Both are good.

[BridgeBurner]

Tsouks wrote...

Wow. Just wow. It's feels like most of you posting in here are children. Spoiled ones too.
So much for that "how old are you" thread.

Way to treat someone who tried to help others.
Sometimes I honestly cannot believe how they put up with us and don't just quit.

Much of the criticism is rather mild actually.

People giving criticism where criticism is due is perfectly acceptable, I could forgive a newbie making mistakes in a build, but for someone involved in MP game design to do so shows a disturbing lack of insight into the functionality of specific kits. You don't need a max'd manifest to know that you don't spec power damage and bonus power on an infiltrator with no offensive power; its just common sense.

Yes its true that a lot of players know more about the game than the developers do, and yes the developers I'm sure try really hard a lot of the time. But the builds posted in the blog are symptomatic of the problems with this game: people who are involved in the game clearly don't play it enough to know what needs sorted with it; for balances and buffs and adjustments.

[12323432543]

Ogrinash wrote...

Soloing Platinum and Gold is a worthy accomplishment.

It's one of the harder challenges in gaming history as far as I've seen.

Actually I've had harder challenges. Try the ultimate missions of the broken ninja gaiden 3. 1 month straight of trying to complete a single mission which takes approx 13 mins to complete. It's incredibly hard for me and when I managed to complete it, boy was I ecstatic. Best feeling ever in my gaming history. 

This is not to say that soloing can be done by any scrub. It is still commendable seeing how the game was designed as a 4 player co op

[Tatsumaki]

I'm quite appalled reading the first few replies that some of you just come and **** all over the developer's post then proceed to wipe your ass on it. Sure perhaps some of his evolution in Tact cloak is off and his choice of spec / kit may not agree with your choice but does that give you a pass to **** all over his post?

You speak of criticism where it is due, yet few even had the tact to write up proper criticism. If you're going to criticize 'for the sake of improvement' isn't it better to add in healthy dose of tact? Seems that most of the post reeks of arrogance rather than the prefaced facade of constructive criticism.

[Tsouks]

Annomander wrote...

Tsouks wrote...

Wow. Just wow. It's feels like most of you posting in here are children. Spoiled ones too.
So much for that "how old are you" thread.

Way to treat someone who tried to help others.
Sometimes I honestly cannot believe how they put up with us and don't just quit.

Much of the criticism is rather mild actually.

People giving criticism where criticism is due is perfectly acceptable, I could forgive a newbie making mistakes in a build, but for someone involved in MP game design to do so shows a disturbing lack of insight into the functionality of specific kits. You don't need a max'd manifest to know that you don't spec power damage and bonus power on an infiltrator with no offensive power; its just common sense.

Yes its true that a lot of players know more about the game than the developers do, and yes the developers I'm sure try really hard a lot of the time. But the builds posted in the blog are symptomatic of the problems with this game: people who are involved in the game clearly don't play it enough to know what needs sorted with it; for balances and buffs and adjustments.

I'm not saying that we should not criticize or complain. We are customers and we should do it whenever it's due. But most of the comments are plain rude. Yet you say they are mild. I blush only by trying to think what it would be like if the comments were worst.

This goes for most of the threads here. Outright rude and negative.
I understand that someone can tell me to leave and never come back.
No. I find usefull information here, and have some fun. Or complain about somthing that I don't like.

I would just like us being polite to each other more often, that's all.

[BridgeBurner]

Ogrinash wrote...

Soloing Platinum and Gold is a worthy accomplishment.

It's one of the harder challenges in gaming history as far as I've seen.

There's an accomplishment on unreal tournament for scoring 20 straight kills (ie: reach "unstoppable")  without dying versus godlike AI opponents. I'm still trying to achieve that one; solo'ing platinum was easy by comparison.

[Uh Cold]

This has to be a joke.

[poonts]

I guess I assumed a dev who posts a strategy guide would do sufficient research and editing.

Others have already covered the numerous mistakes made in this post. Personally I find this an insult to the ME3 multiplayer community as a whole. A good number of BSN'ers could have made corrections before this was posted.

If it were me, I'd be embarrassed. Sharing his experience is one thing... giving players bad advice on builds, weapons, gear, etc...is quite another.

[Leonia]

DullahansXMark wrote...

>BioWare dev gets challenge completed
>Forum checks the builds
>BioWare dev uses wonky builds
>Forum deems them incompetent

I deem them "better than we". They had wonky builds and they still got the challenge done. That's awesome.

Sums up my thoughts. You don't have to be a min-maxer to achieve things in this game, though it probably makes life a little easier to use efficient builds and loadouts. No one playstyle is the "correct" way to do it, no matter what the BSN says.

[Shrakelle]

OPs builds don't make sense.. :/

[J4mes]

LOL, this was terrible.

It should say search BSN for GI Claymore Build, Salarian Infiltrator Widow Build, Turian Ghost with Harrier, and Kroguard Build.

[RedJohn]

Bad people is bad.

The builds he said are not bad, also, he's trying to help, i don't know why the heck all this people is turning this down when someone actually wanted to help and gave some tips that were helpful for him.


I give to this my seal of aproval, the things as he said are doable, if you can or not do it then it's your problem, but not his, because he's just trying to help and some idiots ( sorry, i don't want to use that word but I think it is ideal for this occasion ) are saying that maybe that developer hasn't played that game and blablablablabla.

Well, i've played enough to say that what he said is doable and not bad, everything depends on the playstyles, so people, the fact that you think something is wrong it doesn't mean you are right.

He might done some mistake, like any other human.

Modifié par RedJohn, 29 novembre 2012 - 03:31 .

[Computron2000]

Regardless of what the OP did, he would still be critised by some on these forums. Its the nature of the such platforms.

That said, though his build section doesn't match up, the rest of his post is correct. It would have been nice to explain or talk about target switching for assassinations in the part where he talks about saving missiles, since the blog post is probably aimed at a general audience that might not know.

The GI is probably not going to be the best bet for someone attempting to solo gold on the first try. The Turian Ghost recommendation is good as its is very newbie friendly especially on grenade rich maps. Having both as infilitrators might make it seem like only infilitrators can solo. Most of the DR and shield recharger classes can do it without too major an issue if they stack on cyclonic 4s

[BoneCarlos Lee]

I do appreciate the tips you shared, but also I do doubt you complete the gold solo with that build and mod/gears.

Modifié par BoneCarlos Lee, 29 novembre 2012 - 03:29 .

[Uh Cold]

Bryan Johnson wrote...

You guys also need to realize that he wrote this based on his personal account, believe it or not we have to earn all the equipment ourselves we dont get anything for free.

So Corey doesn't have everything maxed out, you are offering some criticisms without knowing what is actually available to him.

With all due respect what people are going off on in this thread has noting to do with his selection of loadouts and what he might have available, it's his builds, they don't make sense.
Sure he used a TGI and GI, the most well known classes for getting the job done in terms of survivalbility and DPS but it looks as if he is gimping himself and offering no explaination.

For a Dev review of the game I guess the majority of us expected relevant information since most of us already put together builds and solo guides for the community.
The faction comparison read was good, I'll give him the that.