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[Obrusnine]

Sorry if you read that before, accidentally pressed enter.

Anyways, obviously, with the games move to next-generation consoles, how are we going to import our saves from the current-gen to the next-gen? That's the best thing about these games! It wouldn't feel the same without save importing.

Modifié par Obrusnine, 29 novembre 2012 - 12:50 .

[sub0_2]

Very curious about that too.

[Wulfram]

They'll probably do some sort of check list type thing. Which might cut down on the bugs too.

[Dragoonlordz]

I imagine uploading to some online cloud storage or usb transfer for consoles. It will be more to do with how Microsoft and Sony wish to handle savegame and data transfer between their old and new systems and Bioware will not decide which method will use until that has been decided by the console developers.

[Dragoonlordz]

Bioware would not have any major issues (imho) converting the data from savegames on one system to another but the way in which transfered will depend on the console developers in how they wish to allow such transfers to happen between their systems.

[Doctoglethorpe]

Theres a good chance there won't be any importing but rather something like Kotor 2's system of questioning the PC to figure out some key significant details. This could be limited to very few things that would actually have baring on this new story, like the fate of the Warden, Hawke's alignment in the kirkwal rebellion, and maybe a few other things. Other things are being canonized as well through the books/comics, like the fates of Alistar, Leliana, Wynne, Shale, and Isabella. So you won't even get a choice on matters like those.

[Mark of the Dragon]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Theres a good chance there won't be any importing but rather something like Kotor 2's system of questioning the PC to figure out some key significant details. This could be limited to very few things that would actually have baring on this new story, like the fate of the Warden, Hawke's alignment in the kirkwal rebellion, and maybe a few other things. Other things are being canonized as well through the books/comics, like the fates of Alistar, Leliana, Wynne, Shale, and Isabella. So you won't even get a choice on matters like those.

First, save transfers are a big thing to DA. They will not just remove them. Bioware has already said they were looking at other ways to transfer players date.

Second, nothing is canonized. I see this comment all the time. Bioware employess have said many time that they use their own canon to write comics, books, etc. HOWEVER these arent cannon events for our games. In our game worlds, should these events be important, they will happen in a way loyal to our story. For example it might have been different characters under taking said task or under different circumstances.

Third, and this one is directed more at the OP. While it does look like these games MIGHT be on next gen consoles. There is not confirmation. So you should not worry to much imho

[Rawgrim]

Could just get a huge form to fill out, with decisions one made in the previous games, I suppose. Just mark your choices before starting the new game.

[Heimdall]

If its backwards compatible with 360 games, I imagine I'll be able to get the save file over to it with my flash drive.

[MilaBanilla]

I was wondering this as well! I remember reading somewhere that they were working on how not to use the save imports. Maybe a interactive comic book style like ME, but that's just me guessing. What worries me is that if they won't use our save imports, it's because of the next gen console. We will just have to wait for more news in Spring. In the mean time, eat some cookies and don't let these questions run around your mind :3 They will just make you go crazy

[Sanunes]

There is a good chance unless both Microsoft and Sony decide to announce how they will transfer saves between the current generation and next generation consoles there is going to be a checklist option for the movement of information on their systems that the manufactors have to handle.  With Mass Effect 3 Multiplayer it took weeks before BioWare could get the feedback it needed for the weekend challenges to work on the PS3.

Right now the only way I can see it working is if they make it so the current console can save to a USB key and the new console would be able to read that information, but those are major ifs.  I know with the 360 right now there is cloud saving if you have a gold membership and you can save your information to a USB key, but there is no guarentee that the new consoles will be designed to read old save file information.

Modifié par Sanunes, 29 novembre 2012 - 03:06 .

[Doctoglethorpe]

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Theres a good chance there won't be any importing but rather something like Kotor 2's system of questioning the PC to figure out some key significant details. This could be limited to very few things that would actually have baring on this new story, like the fate of the Warden, Hawke's alignment in the kirkwal rebellion, and maybe a few other things. Other things are being canonized as well through the books/comics, like the fates of Alistar, Leliana, Wynne, Shale, and Isabella. So you won't even get a choice on matters like those.

First, save transfers are a big thing to DA. They will not just remove them. Bioware has already said they were looking at other ways to transfer players date.

Second, nothing is canonized. I see this comment all the time. Bioware employess have said many time that they use their own canon to write comics, books, etc. HOWEVER these arent cannon events for our games. In our game worlds, should these events be important, they will happen in a way loyal to our story. For example it might have been different characters under taking said task or under different circumstances.

Third, and this one is directed more at the OP. While it does look like these games MIGHT be on next gen consoles. There is not confirmation. So you should not worry to much imho

"Other ways to transfer" aka other than importing, aka exactly what my example was.

And yes, there are canon events.  Alistar is king.  Canon.  Wynne and Shale traveled with the Warden and survived, Wynn moving on to become Archmage.  Canon.  Leliana was with teh Warden too, survived and became a seeker, canon.  Isabella survived and traveled with Allistar, canon.  Whether or not any of that plays significant role in DA3 is unknowable yet, but as per Gaider's overarching story he is trying to tell, all those things for sure happened.  Gaider's word is the final word, its his creation. 

And it doesn't even really matter if DA3 is next gen or not (though it very much probably is at least both gens) because using a new engine is going to mean the saves can't directly import.  At the very least they would have to develop a system of converting the files over, though honestly I don't see the point.  A more fleshed out version of what Kotor 2 did would be fine. 

Modifié par Doctor Moustache, 29 novembre 2012 - 03:10 .

[Sanunes]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

"Other ways to transfer" aka other than importing, aka exactly what my example was.

And yes, there are canon events.  Alistar is king.  Canon.  Wynne and Shale traveled with the Warden and survived, Wynn moving on to become Archmage.  Canon.  Leliana was with teh Warden too, survived and became a seeker, canon.  Isabella survived and traveled with Allistar, canon.  Whether or not any of that plays significant role in DA3 is unknowable yet, but as per Gaider's overarching story he is trying to tell, all those thigns for sure happened. 

And it doesn't even really matter if DA3 is next gen or not (though it very much probably is at least both gens) because using a new engine is going to mean the saves can't directly import.  At the very least they would have to develop a system of converting the files over, though honestly I don't see the point.  A more fleshed out version of what Kotor 2 did would be fine. 

I don't think changing the game engine would prevent reading the save game information for its just reading any other document on different computer operating systems.

[The Teyrn of Whatever]

Obrusnine wrote...

Sorry if you read that before, accidentally pressed enter.

Anyways, obviously, with the games move to next-generation consoles, how are we going to import our saves from the current-gen to the next-gen? That's the best thing about these games! It wouldn't feel the same without save importing.

I seem to remember the first XBox and the XBox 360 having some of the same games released on both systems for as long as Microsoft was still supporting the old XBox. Tomb Raider Legend was one such title.

I expect we'll be seeing current gen and next gen releases, though what the difference apart from graphics might be I can't say for sure.

However, I am going to wait until BioWare officially announces platforms before I get excited or start ranting. It's all up in the air until we have any solid word from the devs or publisher.

Modifié par The Teryn of Whatever, 29 novembre 2012 - 03:16 .

[Doctoglethorpe]

Sanunes wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

"Other ways to transfer" aka other than importing, aka exactly what my example was.

And yes, there are canon events.  Alistar is king.  Canon.  Wynne and Shale traveled with the Warden and survived, Wynn moving on to become Archmage.  Canon.  Leliana was with teh Warden too, survived and became a seeker, canon.  Isabella survived and traveled with Allistar, canon.  Whether or not any of that plays significant role in DA3 is unknowable yet, but as per Gaider's overarching story he is trying to tell, all those thigns for sure happened. 

And it doesn't even really matter if DA3 is next gen or not (though it very much probably is at least both gens) because using a new engine is going to mean the saves can't directly import.  At the very least they would have to develop a system of converting the files over, though honestly I don't see the point.  A more fleshed out version of what Kotor 2 did would be fine. 

I don't think changing the game engine would prevent reading the save game information for its just reading any other document on different computer operating systems.

For PC's it wouldn't be too much trouble.  Reading files on console games in entirely different and far more complicated. 

[Obrusnine]

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Theres a good chance there won't be any importing but rather something like Kotor 2's system of questioning the PC to figure out some key significant details. This could be limited to very few things that would actually have baring on this new story, like the fate of the Warden, Hawke's alignment in the kirkwal rebellion, and maybe a few other things. Other things are being canonized as well through the books/comics, like the fates of Alistar, Leliana, Wynne, Shale, and Isabella. So you won't even get a choice on matters like those.

Third, and this one is directed more at the OP. While it does look like these games MIGHT be on next gen consoles. There is not confirmation. So you should not worry to much imho

It was confirmed.

www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/28/dragon-age-iii-shifts-to-next-gen-aiming-for-2014

[Yalision]

This also concerns me.

[Obrusnine]

I hope someone from Bioware answers this question. I don't want to play a Dragon Age game that doesn't let me import my saves.

It concerns me even more because before ME3 came out, I watched a video where they said they were glad they could fit the entire trilogy into one console generation. That implies that they don't or didn't have a way to transfer it between the consoles...

Hopefully for Sony, they can free up a bit of cloud storage for free users and that would be a good way to transfer saves. Xbox Live though is harder, because those selfish jerks don't even let you play online without paying a monthly fee.

[Amycus89]

If I remember correctly, I read somewhere here earlier on the boards that the save import system in DA:O was pretty buggy (not all choices were saved properly, hence the fact that you did or didn't romance morrigan might not have been registered properly), so my guess is that they will make some kind of comic to make your own "save game import" a la ME2 on PS3, but for all versions, PC included since the DA;O saves are "corrupted" from the start.

They will likely avoid it if at all possible though, since the "save imports" are a huge incentive to buy the older games if done correctly (DA2 didn't really bring out this potential, it just determined some cameos of old characters).

[Doctoglethorpe]

Obrusnine wrote...

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Theres a good chance there won't be any importing but rather something like Kotor 2's system of questioning the PC to figure out some key significant details. This could be limited to very few things that would actually have baring on this new story, like the fate of the Warden, Hawke's alignment in the kirkwal rebellion, and maybe a few other things. Other things are being canonized as well through the books/comics, like the fates of Alistar, Leliana, Wynne, Shale, and Isabella. So you won't even get a choice on matters like those.

Third, and this one is directed more at the OP. While it does look like these games MIGHT be on next gen consoles. There is not confirmation. So you should not worry to much imho

It was confirmed.

www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/28/dragon-age-iii-shifts-to-next-gen-aiming-for-2014

That is not a confirmation. 

[Obrusnine]

Did you even read that? It specifically stated in the resume that Dragon Age III has shifted to next-gen consoles. Neither EA nor Bioware have made any move to refute that point, so it's almost definitely true.

[Liamv2]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Obrusnine wrote...

Mark of the Dragon wrote...

Doctor Moustache wrote...

Theres a good chance there won't be any importing but rather something like Kotor 2's system of questioning the PC to figure out some key significant details. This could be limited to very few things that would actually have baring on this new story, like the fate of the Warden, Hawke's alignment in the kirkwal rebellion, and maybe a few other things. Other things are being canonized as well through the books/comics, like the fates of Alistar, Leliana, Wynne, Shale, and Isabella. So you won't even get a choice on matters like those.

Third, and this one is directed more at the OP. While it does look like these games MIGHT be on next gen consoles. There is not confirmation. So you should not worry to much imho

It was confirmed.

www.ign.com/articles/2012/11/28/dragon-age-iii-shifts-to-next-gen-aiming-for-2014

That is not a confirmation. 

[Doctoglethorpe]

Obrusnine wrote...

Did you even read that? It specifically stated in the resume that Dragon Age III has shifted to next-gen consoles. Neither EA nor Bioware have made any move to refute that point, so it's almost definitely true.

Can't tell if serious...

I'll assume you are.  No, a guy that works for another EA subsidiary on the other side of the planet making a claim does not make that claim an official confirmation.  Its a rumor.

An official confirmation would be Bioware themselves or an EA top brass, not just another random employee in aisa, saying "yes, that is true." 

Don't expect anything to be said about it until a more formal announcement of the game takes place.  In fact, don't really expect answers to anything until that point.  That goes for everyone asking all these silly questions like they honestly expect an answer. 

[Heimdall]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

And yes, there are canon events.  Alistar is king.  Canon.  Wynne and Shale traveled with the Warden and survived, Wynn moving on to become Archmage.  Canon.  Leliana was with teh Warden too, survived and became a seeker, canon.  Isabella survived and traveled with Allistar, canon.  Whether or not any of that plays significant role in DA3 is unknowable yet, but as per Gaider's overarching story he is trying to tell, all those things for sure happened.  Gaider's word is the final word, its his creation. 

Gaider has been quite direct in staying that those are not canon.  He uses a canon for the sake of making it easier to tell those stories but if circumstances were different in your version of Dragon Age than those events played out differently.  He said as much.