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#4701
Shadowulph

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Like I've said before the Moderators don't know Jack! They just give lame excuses that make no sense as to why this is delayed again for the third time. For RTO to be 30 minutes or so long and cost $4 to be delayed this long, the people working on it need to be fired! You would think with all the time they supposedly were working on this they could have made a brand new game. People here just want an Official Bioware Response saying something/anything and not an excuse again.

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rusted root wrote...

Well I am not surprised and am a little disapointed but I can get over it.


oooh, i like that band!  Sorry, I'm easily distracted.

SHINY!

#4703
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this DLC's gunna have kick ass armor soo thats why im getting it =)

Modifié par xLyTwiZiDxLy, 06 janvier 2010 - 01:00 .


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Gorthaur the Cruel

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ShadoWxSnipa wrote...

Skydiver8888 wrote...

ShadoWxSnipa wrote...

Skydiver8888 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...
While I will never discount the amount of rudeness i'm by now used to see every time there's a delay in the gaming market, If I may, I would say that, while no set in stone ETA is understandable, letting us know if the delay is a matter of hours, days, weeks or months would definitely help make many feel better.
I hope you understand that "there's a delay, there's no ETA, sorry" leaves people a tad wanting :D

Since the breaking of a promised date is what got people so up in arms in the first place, do you think that giving them a timeframe is really going to help?

And I'd like to address a comment to whoever said all the testing should hae been done by now, so how could it be a bug that's caused this? It's actually pretty easy for a bug to cause something like this. Even if testing for a game is "done," there is still a lot of time between "done" and when the game appears on store shelves. While waiting for things like certification, approval and manufacturing, testing can still continue. So, time-wise, testing can happen even when the game is "done." This is how you get things like zero-day patches.

Another concept that people have problems grasping is that software, complex as it is, can almost never be completely, 100% bug-free. That's just unreasonable if you have a product that needs to get released. During the later stages of a project, the managers "triage" the bugs. They make the hard decisions on what bugs can be fixed in the time and with the people available, and which bugs are minor enough to leave in. As the project deadline looms closer, these decisions get harder and harder to make and the bugs that are allowed through are, comparitively, bigger. Really serious stuff like crashes or causing your computer to explode in green Jell-O are given priority, but other things can get through. This is how you get things like software patches days, weeks, months, even years after release.

Finally, there's the "infinte monkeys" factor. Even working at full capacity 24 hours a day, there's only so many things that can be found by the dozen or so QA that projects get. They might have filed a million bugs each during the project, and all of them might have been approved by triage, and they might not have found anything else between "done" and store shelves, but statistically, you can throw a few more people at the game and they will see something that was missed. Add in a few hundred thousand folks with a few hundred thousands different Pc configurations or play styles, and you have that many more "testers." No one likes it, but that's how you get folks complaining about "paying to be a tester." No malice involved or intended, it's just the math.

Not saying a bug did cause any of this. I just thought I'd address that particular question since I knew the answer, and it's a little distraction for all y'all.


Thank you, Stan Woo! (hands you a pineapple)

As a former paid game tester/QA puke myself, these threads full of armchair developers really burn my britches.  It's really tough not to snark all over everyone (sometimes I give in) because I know more than they do about the process.  Hopefully people read your calm and reasoned post and take it down a notch. 


You sound like u didnt even know what a computer was Burn ure britches lol thats hilaroius from like 30 years ago


Amazingly enough, I also know how to properly spell and write grammatically correct sentences.  Something you seem to be incapable of doing, you young whippersnapper!

It's not polite to comment on a lady's age, by the way.  :whistle:

Hahahahahahaha if u ever need help walking across the street u let me know okay? and ik how to spell but typing a few extra letters is hard work

Yeah thats some hard work typing extra letters.

#4705
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BennyHartless wrote...

Svensonreloaded wrote...

What age are the most of you ?

all are with no real life , the most of you are flaming like childs -.-


27, college grad, devoted boyfriend, pet owner, gym member, homeowner, bringing home over 30k  year for minimal work...also I'm a virgo.  Anything else you wanted to know, chief?


28, girlfriend of 3 years, full time job, apartment, bills, currently waiting to head to boot camp for combat engineer, i is gonna get my arse whipped ^^

#4706
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First post after 24 hours wait~



Kinda impressed the thread is not broken~



Yet.

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Stanley Woo wrote...

Hey, Svensonreloaded. That's not the first insult I've heard from you in the past few pages. What say you take those kinds of comments elsewhere and keep this thread civil and mature.


A Mod?!  Where were you last night? lol.  Which reminds me.  Remember 12 hours ago when this thread was really fun?  It was swell.  Now we're all on topic again.  Boo.  

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Shadowulph wrote...

Like I've said before the Moderators don't know Jack! They just give lame excuses that make no sense as to why this is delayed again for the third time. For RTO to be 30 minutes or so long and cost $4 to be delayed this long, the people working on it need to be fired! You would think with all the time they supposedly were working on this they could have made a brand new game. People here just want an Official Bioware Response saying something/anything and not an excuse again.

Do you think you can do better? then stop complaining.

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Darth_Trethon wrote...

Yes so I've noticed in your expansive and comprehensive list of posts on pages 178 & 179. Nonetheless even the urelated posts are there because people stay here waiting for answers to arrive and I doubt most are as happy as those posts suggest.


Comprehensive list of questions, not just posts.

And yes, I'm sure it's quite impossible to maintain a generally good mood while disappointed in yet another delay. Or, and this is just a thought I'm throwing out there, the majority of posts have been posted by people who actually were having a pretty fun time of it just acting ridiculous while waiting for more info to be available. As disappointing as I know it must be, some of us actually know how to have fun even while disappointed about something. Not everyone flies into fits of pure rage at the mere mention of delays.

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jennamarae wrote...

sofly wrote...

Also, I am against pants. Just thought it should be said.


:huh:

Sofly, you need your pants.


Dang. And here I thought I was going to make a political statement and start a fashion trend killing darkspawn without them at the same time. :crying:  Thank you for showing me the error in my ways. :P

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i dont want to know it lol xD

buts funny when you say it :D

#4712
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http://www.gamestop....roduct_id=76824



Box art for Dragon Age:Awakening

#4713
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Svensonreloaded wrote...

All your base are belong to us!

FIXED!

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Solostran85 wrote...

Yeah thats some hard work typing extra letters.


It adds up over the course of a long day trolling.

#4715
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Return to Ostagar is now bonus content in Mass Effect 2.

#4716
Nifell

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personally, when something goes wrong, bioware should just release this instead of a reason ^^


Modifié par Nifell, 06 janvier 2010 - 01:04 .


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jennamarae

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sofly wrote...

Dang. And here I thought I was going to make a political statement and start a fashion trend killing darkspawn without them at the same time. :crying:  Thank you for showing me the error in my ways. :P


No problem. I'm glad I could be of service. :D

#4718
ShadoWxSnipa

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Solostran85 wrote...

ShadoWxSnipa wrote...

Skydiver8888 wrote...

ShadoWxSnipa wrote...

Skydiver8888 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

Abriael_CG wrote...
While I will never discount the amount of rudeness i'm by now used to see every time there's a delay in the gaming market, If I may, I would say that, while no set in stone ETA is understandable, letting us know if the delay is a matter of hours, days, weeks or months would definitely help make many feel better.
I hope you understand that "there's a delay, there's no ETA, sorry" leaves people a tad wanting :D

Since the breaking of a promised date is what got people so up in arms in the first place, do you think that giving them a timeframe is really going to help?

And I'd like to address a comment to whoever said all the testing should hae been done by now, so how could it be a bug that's caused this? It's actually pretty easy for a bug to cause something like this. Even if testing for a game is "done," there is still a lot of time between "done" and when the game appears on store shelves. While waiting for things like certification, approval and manufacturing, testing can still continue. So, time-wise, testing can happen even when the game is "done." This is how you get things like zero-day patches.

Another concept that people have problems grasping is that software, complex as it is, can almost never be completely, 100% bug-free. That's just unreasonable if you have a product that needs to get released. During the later stages of a project, the managers "triage" the bugs. They make the hard decisions on what bugs can be fixed in the time and with the people available, and which bugs are minor enough to leave in. As the project deadline looms closer, these decisions get harder and harder to make and the bugs that are allowed through are, comparitively, bigger. Really serious stuff like crashes or causing your computer to explode in green Jell-O are given priority, but other things can get through. This is how you get things like software patches days, weeks, months, even years after release.

Finally, there's the "infinte monkeys" factor. Even working at full capacity 24 hours a day, there's only so many things that can be found by the dozen or so QA that projects get. They might have filed a million bugs each during the project, and all of them might have been approved by triage, and they might not have found anything else between "done" and store shelves, but statistically, you can throw a few more people at the game and they will see something that was missed. Add in a few hundred thousand folks with a few hundred thousands different Pc configurations or play styles, and you have that many more "testers." No one likes it, but that's how you get folks complaining about "paying to be a tester." No malice involved or intended, it's just the math.

Not saying a bug did cause any of this. I just thought I'd address that particular question since I knew the answer, and it's a little distraction for all y'all.


Thank you, Stan Woo! (hands you a pineapple)

As a former paid game tester/QA puke myself, these threads full of armchair developers really burn my britches.  It's really tough not to snark all over everyone (sometimes I give in) because I know more than they do about the process.  Hopefully people read your calm and reasoned post and take it down a notch. 


You sound like u didnt even know what a computer was Burn ure britches lol thats hilaroius from like 30 years ago


Amazingly enough, I also know how to properly spell and write grammatically correct sentences.  Something you seem to be incapable of doing, you young whippersnapper!

It's not polite to comment on a lady's age, by the way.  :whistle:

Hahahahahahaha if u ever need help walking across the street u let me know okay? and ik how to spell but typing a few extra letters is hard work

Yeah thats some hard work typing extra letters.

it really is lol same with even puting a period

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Cryo84 wrote...

Return to Ostagar is now bonus content in Mass Effect 2.

I'm going to need you to tell me you're joking.  How sad is it that this could actually be a possibility?

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Nifell wrote...

BennyHartless wrote...

Svensonreloaded wrote...

What age are the most of you ?

all are with no real life , the most of you are flaming like childs -.-


27, college grad, devoted boyfriend, pet owner, gym member, homeowner, bringing home over 30k  year for minimal work...also I'm a virgo.  Anything else you wanted to know, chief?


28, girlfriend of 3 years, full time job, apartment, bills, currently waiting to head to boot camp for combat engineer, i is gonna get my arse whipped ^^


23 yearold deliquent with 90% confidence online and 10% offline. Live in a 1 bedroom apartment, and I hate my neighbors in my building as much as they hate me. My job sucks. I sell shoes. My refrigerator is broken and I love dragon age.

Did I mention my job sucks? I sell shoes.

Modifié par Dargar21, 06 janvier 2010 - 01:08 .


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isn't being released on all platforms? They must be having trouble with the console versions.

#4722
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BennyHartless wrote...

Cryo84 wrote...

Return to Ostagar is now bonus content in Mass Effect 2.

I'm going to need you to tell me you're joking.  How sad is it that this could actually be a possibility?


Having thought about it more, I probably should have said I was joking due to the possibility of this actually happening.

#4723
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Nifell wrote...

personally, when something goes wrong, bioware should just release this instead of a reason ^^



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Well everybody's heard, about the bird !

#4724
ShadoWxSnipa

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Dargar21 wrote...

Nifell wrote...

BennyHartless wrote...

Svensonreloaded wrote...

What age are the most of you ?

all are with no real life , the most of you are flaming like childs -.-


27, college grad, devoted boyfriend, pet owner, gym member, homeowner, bringing home over 30k  year for minimal work...also I'm a virgo.  Anything else you wanted to know, chief?


28, girlfriend of 3 years, full time job, apartment, bills, currently waiting to head to boot camp for combat engineer, i is gonna get my arse whipped ^^


23 yearold deliquent with 90% confidence online and 10% offline. Live in a 1 bedroom apartment, and I hate my neighbors in my building as much as they hate me. My job sucks. I sell shoes. My refigertor is broken and I love dragon age.

Did I mention my job sucks? I sell shoes.


I would say my age but theres some odd people on thy internet lol, and im in school yeah rockin it and i live with my mom and i have a part time job in the summer

#4725
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jennamarae wrote...

Darth_Trethon wrote...

Yes so I've noticed in your expansive and comprehensive list of posts on pages 178 & 179. Nonetheless even the urelated posts are there because people stay here waiting for answers to arrive and I doubt most are as happy as those posts suggest.


Comprehensive list of questions, not just posts.

And yes, I'm sure it's quite impossible to maintain a generally good mood while disappointed in yet another delay. Or, and this is just a thought I'm throwing out there, the majority of posts have been posted by people who actually were having a pretty fun time of it just acting ridiculous while waiting for more info to be available. As disappointing as I know it must be, some of us actually know how to have fun even while disappointed about something. Not everyone flies into fits of pure rage at the mere mention of delays.


Neither did I untill this second delay. I am calm now but my initial reaction made me want to smash my computer into bits....especially with the Awakening announcement. What can I say? I am tired of empty promisses from BioWare and after 2 years of waiting for ME1 DLC to finally be dissapointed by Pinnacle Station makes my patience thinner than it probably should be.