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[BTA1]

If this isn't a joke, Bioware must be the worst company ever when it comes to PR.

[jennamarae]

The Greywolf wrote...

Software companies don't make their release dates often. When they do, it's usually patch after
patch after patch ad nauseum. Such is the software industry. Instead of whining about missed
release dates, pray that Bioware survives being in bed with EA. Think of Origin and Westwood,
among others, and be VERY concerned.

See, I don't get this. I really don't. It's whining to want to know why something has been delayed not once, but twice, without a reason given for the delay? I'll remind you that it wasn't until after the holidays that they finally got around to letting us know that it wasn't actually coming out during the holiday season, let alone the reason for the delay. How long should we wait this time around before it's no longer called whining and recognized for what it is: aggravation at a company that has shown itself to be crappy with communication and incapable of keeping to their own schedule or informing their customers in a timely manner of the reasons and length of delays.

Bioware won't survive EA. No one survives EA. EA is the blackhole of the gaming universe.

[Killian Kalthorne]

I am not going to believe anything that Bioware says unless there is verifiable physical evidence backing it up.

[HolyRomanCousinConsort]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

The Greywolf wrote...

Software companies don't make their release dates often. When they do, it's usually patch after
patch after patch ad nauseum. Such is the software industry. Instead of whining about missed
release dates, pray that Bioware survives being in bed with EA. Think of Origin and Westwood,
among others, and be VERY concerned.

That is why they shouldn't give out release dates in the first place.  If you cannot commit then don't.  Simple as that.  I don't particularly care if Bioware surivives or not.  I expect honesty and integrity with the companies I buy from.  If they fail to be so then I don't see why  I should spend my money on their products.

Failing to meet a deadline is not dishonesty. Disorganization perhaps. They have NOTHING to gain by lying to you about a release date. They planned to sell something on date X, and couldn't finish on time, that's all.

I prefer that they give dates, like they do, rather than the classic "it will be ready when it's ready" like Blizzard does. At least with dates we can have a ballpark idea of when to expect a product.

[lisakover]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

I am not going to believe anything that Bioware says unless there is verifiable physical evidence backing it up.

So you don't believe the DLC is cancelled?




=B

[Ethical Scabs]

jennamarae wrote...

The Greywolf wrote...

Software companies don't make their release dates often. When they do, it's usually patch after
patch after patch ad nauseum. Such is the software industry. Instead of whining about missed
release dates, pray that Bioware survives being in bed with EA. Think of Origin and Westwood,
among others, and be VERY concerned.

See, I don't get this. I really don't. It's whining to want to know why something has been delayed not once, but twice, without a reason given for the delay? I'll remind you that it wasn't until after the holidays that they finally got around to letting us know that it wasn't actually coming out during the holiday season, let alone the reason for the delay. How long should we wait this time around before it's no longer called whining and recognized for what it is: aggravation at a company that has shown itself to be crappy with communication and incapable of keeping to their own schedule or informing their customers in a timely manner of the reasons and length of delays.

Bioware won't survive EA. No one survives EA. EA is the blackhole of the gaming universe.

They were great about communication before the game came out.

I'm sure they're just overworked.


And seriously guys,  all you've lost is the ability to spend your money on a new good.  Nothing else.

It is sad,  but at the end of the day  no loss.  The good wasn't real yet anyway.



I for one am of the camp that the initial post may have been to see the lollercaust that has transpired.

[darkdan-777]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

I am not going to believe anything that Bioware says unless there is verifiable physical evidence backing it up.

Global warming?

[darkdan-777]

oops double post  *Falls asleep*

Modifié par darkdan-777, 05 janvier 2010 - 02:34 .

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

jennamarae wrote...

Bioware won't survive EA. No one survives EA. EA is the blackhole of the gaming universe.

The Force is strong with this one.  *nods sadly*

[HolyRomanCousinConsort]

jennamarae wrote...

The Greywolf wrote...

Software companies don't make their release dates often. When they do, it's usually patch after
patch after patch ad nauseum. Such is the software industry. Instead of whining about missed
release dates, pray that Bioware survives being in bed with EA. Think of Origin and Westwood,
among others, and be VERY concerned.

See, I don't get this. I really don't. It's whining to want to know why something has been delayed not once, but twice, without a reason given for the delay? I'll remind you that it wasn't until after the holidays that they finally got around to letting us know that it wasn't actually coming out during the holiday season, let alone the reason for the delay. How long should we wait this time around before it's no longer called whining and recognized for what it is: aggravation at a company that has shown itself to be crappy with communication and incapable of keeping to their own schedule or informing their customers in a timely manner of the reasons and length of delays.

Bioware won't survive EA. No one survives EA. EA is the blackhole of the gaming universe.

Asking the why about a delay is a legitimate request, and I think tomorrow that question will be answered by Bioware. 

[Emeraq]

HolyRomanCousinConsort wrote...

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

The Greywolf wrote...

Software companies don't make their release dates often. When they do, it's usually patch after
patch after patch ad nauseum. Such is the software industry. Instead of whining about missed
release dates, pray that Bioware survives being in bed with EA. Think of Origin and Westwood,
among others, and be VERY concerned.

That is why they shouldn't give out release dates in the first place.  If you cannot commit then don't.  Simple as that.  I don't particularly care if Bioware surivives or not.  I expect honesty and integrity with the companies I buy from.  If they fail to be so then I don't see why  I should spend my money on their products.

Failing to meet a deadline is not dishonesty. Disorganization perhaps. They have NOTHING to gain by lying to you about a release date. They planned to sell something on date X, and couldn't finish on time, that's all.

I prefer that they give dates, like they do, rather than the classic "it will be ready when it's ready" like Blizzard does. At least with dates we can have a ballpark idea of when to expect a product.

Hehe I love 'when it's ready'  That last it was used for NwN was when DLA used it for WCoC and then for NwN2 Obsidian for MoW... In both of those cases I loved the end result, and it was ready, when it was ready.

[Jaymo147]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

I am not going to believe anything that Bioware says unless there is verifiable physical evidence backing it up.

Uhh, tell me that when you still don't have the DLC even after tomorrow.

[Killian Kalthorne]

I don't. When someone gives a time I expect that time to be accurate.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

I am not going to believe anything that Bioware says unless there is verifiable physical evidence backing it up.

How do you even know there is a Bioware then?

[HolyRomanCousinConsort]

RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

jennamarae wrote...

Bioware won't survive EA. No one survives EA. EA is the blackhole of the gaming universe.

The Force is strong with this one.  *nods sadly*

Scientists and even scientologists say that were are all due for a Big Crunch eventually.

[The Greywolf]

Then don't buy software. They all give release dates and don't meet them. Whining about integrity

won't help, as integrity has nothing to do with it. I agree that not posting a date might be smarter,

but please drop the 'holier than thou" attitude. Not trying to be insulting, but that won't work in

the software industry. Get used to it, or find another form of entertainment. I've gamed for over

30 years, and if I had dealt only with companies that met their release dates, I would have played

VERY few games indeed.



And you did miss to point of my post. Nuff said.

[BTA1]

Worth to note that the starting page still says it's out tomorrow. So if it really isn't gonna come out tomorrow then Bioware should adjust that.

[T1l]

jennamarae wrote...

Bioware won't survive EA. No one survives EA. EA is the blackhole of the gaming universe.

Blizzard/Activision are worse. I'm not religious, but I think Bobby Kotick is actually the Devil himself.

[Dragon Age1103]

PS3 is at blame I assume

Modifié par Dragon Age1103, 05 janvier 2010 - 02:40 .

[darkdan-777]

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

I don't. When someone gives a time I expect that time to be accurate.

dude never order a pizza

[jennamarae]

Ethical Scabs wrote...

I'm sure they're just overworked.

They just came back from vacation! How do you get overworked on your first day back?

And seriously guys,  all you've lost is the ability to spend your money on a new good.

And all faith in a company to keep it's word and keep their customers informed of the reasons behind and lengths of delays. Other than that, nothing at all.

[HolyRomanCousinConsort]

darkdan-777 wrote...

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

I don't. When someone gives a time I expect that time to be accurate.

dude never order a pizza

haha man that was good

[meanpandabomba]

**** YOU BIOWARE!!!!

Modifié par meanpandabomba, 05 janvier 2010 - 02:37 .

[illerianna]

HolyRomanCousinConsort wrote...

Killian Kalthorne wrote...

The Greywolf wrote...

Software companies don't make their release dates often. When they do, it's usually patch after
patch after patch ad nauseum. Such is the software industry. Instead of whining about missed
release dates, pray that Bioware survives being in bed with EA. Think of Origin and Westwood,
among others, and be VERY concerned.

That is why they shouldn't give out release dates in the first place.  If you cannot commit then don't.  Simple as that.  I don't particularly care if Bioware surivives or not.  I expect honesty and integrity with the companies I buy from.  If they fail to be so then I don't see why  I should spend my money on their products.

Failing to meet a deadline is not dishonesty. Disorganization perhaps. They have NOTHING to gain by lying to you about a release date. They planned to sell something on date X, and couldn't finish on time, that's all.

I prefer that they give dates, like they do, rather than the classic "it will be ready when it's ready" like Blizzard does. At least with dates we can have a ballpark idea of when to expect a product.

TBH, I don't mind the "it'll be ready when it's ready" deal. Is it mildly frustrating? Oh yes. But nowhere NEAR as frustrating as having the product in front of our faces, moments away, and then snatched up with a "lol sux 4 u" from the company.

At least with the "it'll be ready when it's ready" line, I know that it is in development. It doesn't get my hopes up that I'll wake up on Christmas and see it in the downloads section, and do that AGAIN in January.

But that's just me. I expect someone to meet a deadline that they have promised, and if they DO get delayed, to at least give me a reason WHY it happened.