Amirit wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
Maybe she never should have gotten it in the first place...........
This. How and why VS suddenly become a Spectre - is a mistery. And in case of xenophobic Ash - is double so.
Modifié par Amirit, 30 novembre 2012 - 12:12 .
Amirit wrote...
Spectres are supposed to be handpicked by Consul. Shepard was "watched for years" and then had to be approved by another Spectre. And Udina can not decide for himself who is going to become a Spectre.
All these VS Spectre bull****... Just one of the plot wholes of ME3. A big one. Could make VS simply a Sequirity Cheaf or something. Would be at least a bit realistic.
Modifié par CDR David Shepard, 29 novembre 2012 - 06:29 .
thehomeworld wrote...
Xenophobia isn't a disqulifying trait Saren was one. What is a determining factor is her career accomplishment , her bravery, her leadership skills, ect
Agreed.LadyPaine wrote...
Ash and Kaidan shouldn't be Spectres. They're not good enough for the job. I think Udina made them Spectres so he could use them to his advantage.
Sylvianus wrote...
Agreed.LadyPaine wrote...
Ash and Kaidan shouldn't be Spectres. They're not good enough for the job. I think Udina made them Spectres so he could use them to his advantage.
Probably only made them a Spectre because they are so close to ShepardCDR David Shepard wrote...
Sylvianus wrote...
Agreed.LadyPaine wrote...
Ash and Kaidan shouldn't be Spectres. They're not good enough for the job. I think Udina made them Spectres so he could use them to his advantage.
I believe that this was Udina's reason for making it happen as well.
However, I also believe that the other Councilors would agree with making the VS a Spectre.
VirtualSoldier27 wrote...
to take a break from all the Omega conversation,I got to wondering about something
in the investigation into Udina after the Cerberus attack on the Citadel,you would think that the Council would Suspend the SPECTRE he recommended untill they were investigated to make sure they were not involved in his plot.
wouldnt that be wiered,Ashley being accused of Cerberus ties
She was protecting the council. The whole council. That's all she was doing. Not trying to take over the citadel.thehomeworld wrote...
She was going along with Udina the whole time and didn't shoot him unless you're counting the option to fail the mission as her saving situation. Which doesn't negate the fact she helped him try to take over the citidel only to have a change of heart at the last second that only makes her a confused accomplis still punishable, still worthy of a revoke in the her status, and then toss her to the Alliance to figure out is she terminated or does she get a slap on the wrist.
The Grey Nayr wrote...
VirtualSoldier27 wrote...
to take a break from all the Omega conversation,I got to wondering about something
in the investigation into Udina after the Cerberus attack on the Citadel,you would think that the Council would Suspend the SPECTRE he recommended untill they were investigated to make sure they were not involved in his plot.
wouldnt that be wiered,Ashley being accused of Cerberus ties
Ashley and Kaidan both turn on Udina. That speaks for their allegiance.
VirtualSoldier27 wrote...
The Grey Nayr wrote...
VirtualSoldier27 wrote...
to take a break from all the Omega conversation,I got to wondering about something
in the investigation into Udina after the Cerberus attack on the Citadel,you would think that the Council would Suspend the SPECTRE he recommended untill they were investigated to make sure they were not involved in his plot.
wouldnt that be wiered,Ashley being accused of Cerberus ties
Ashley and Kaidan both turn on Udina. That speaks for their allegiance.
Bank Robbers turn on each other at the police station,doesnt mean they dont all go to jail
I love Ashley,and either her or Tali is usually my LI,but I am just looking at this from the council's perspective
CDR David Shepard wrote...
You're not looking at it from their perspective...because you're overlooking the most obvious...
The Councilors were going along with Udina just as the VS was.
Shepard is the one who told them about Udina betraying them.
Then the Councilors AND the VS "turned" on Udina.
Ummm... No. She had no intent or knowledge to help Udina take over the Citadel. She thought he was just another politician, no Cerberus ties or anything. She was doing her job to protect the Councilors and ONLY turned on Udina upon being convinced that he was behind the Citadel Coup. She does not display any culpable mental states that would convict her otherwise.thehomeworld wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
. She didnt shoot Udina, I did.krukow wrote...
Ummm, the other three council members approved her, and she helped save their lives. Also, it's pretty obvious she's not pro-cerberus when she shoots Udina.
If anything, she'd get a medal.
Also, Udina nominated her, but the whole council approved her. It's not like one council member can make spectre's willy-nilly.
She was going along with Udina the whole time and didn't shoot him unless you're counting the option to fail the mission as her saving situation. Which doesn't negate the fact she helped him try to take over the citidel only to have a change of heart at the last second that only makes her a confused accomplis still punishable, still worthy of a revoke in the her status, and then toss her to the Alliance to figure out is she terminated or does she get a slap on the wrist.
Amirit wrote...
Steelcan wrote...
Maybe she never should have gotten it in the first place...........
This. How and why VS suddenly become a Spectre - is a mistery. And in case of xenophobic Ash - is double so.
Modifié par iakus, 29 novembre 2012 - 07:18 .
Amirit wrote...
All these VS Spectre bull****... Just one of the plot wholes of ME3. A big one. Could make VS simply a Sequirity Cheaf or something. Would be at least a bit realistic.
Modifié par darkchief10, 29 novembre 2012 - 08:04 .
darkchief10 wrote...
I don't know what you guys are talking about, as soon as ashley pointed her gun at me i shot the ****, then i Shot that bastard udina for good measure. My shepard doesn't tolerate traitors, especially former squadmates/ ex-girlfriends.
Modifié par DirtySHISN0, 29 novembre 2012 - 08:49 .
she WOULD still have to salute; A) your time in rank Alliance Navy, also time as Spectre is longerDarth Asriel wrote...
I know right! I love how that gets glossed over. My particular Shep was the hero of Elysium, before he even got noticed. Thn proved a plot against the Council by 1 of their own. And I still had to basically beg for the job. She shows up, gets a concussion, and now she no longer has to salute me?????Steelcan wrote...
. Didnt get vaporized. She also jumped from a low ranking NCO to an officer in six months!Darth Asriel wrote...
Better question. What the hell did she do to even become a Spectre? I proved Saren a traitor and was already being considered. She did what exactly?
its your ship you are in command, and she joins your crew
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