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I dont care what anyone says, that is an epic scene even without harby talking.


It was pretty good, but this does improve on it. Normandy evac does take a lot from it though :/

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It's good that the PC users have done this. I still prefer the original ending, but if this satisfies the people who are unhappy with the original ending, that's awesome.

I find it ironic that after so many months of "we're not just asking for a happy ending" so many complainers are flocking to something called the Happy Ending Mod.

Actually ironic isn't quite the right word for it, I just find it funny.


No, ironic is right.

Shepard looks very sad at the end of the mod.

Modifié par iakus, 30 novembre 2012 - 06:29 .


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I have mad respect for Mr. Fob for making the great MEHEM, but I still think BW needs to make it official, for console players as well. They can hardly complain about a MEHEM option messing with their continuity when they themselves included the option to slap some circuitry on every hemp leaf in the galaxy on the DNA level or to update the Space Ghost with Shepard DLC.

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The Happy Ending in MEHEM I take, because I hadn´t anything against one from the beginning (but with all that death in ME, I would still just call it brighter ending).
But for me the main point of getting the mod for me was that it stops after Andersen's death before going into epiloge cutscne mode.

As I said a few weeks ago in another thread, if the original Ending would have just faded to black and the crucible had then shot the beam I would still had liked it better (just without the crashscene of the Normandy and the EC ending itself), but the Casper scene just ruined my first Ending experience and as Aria said herself: "How things begin isn't nearly as important as how they end.".

But now i´m more in peace with myself, because it now plays more like I thought it would (because if you don´t get enought EMS, earth still get toasted).

If I purchase Leviathan and Omega? Maybe after Koobismo ended his Marauder Shield Comic (because that has another grade of epicness, because it plays exactly like I thought retake earth would do!) but not right now, and Omega just if the price drops, because it´s just too expensive for what "I" would get out of it AND just when they "fix" Aria's speech scene :P

Modifié par Atherus, 30 novembre 2012 - 09:56 .


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You know what this reminds me of?

http://xkcd.com/299/

Modifié par tobynator89, 30 novembre 2012 - 09:53 .


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Damn if only this existed on consoles.

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Mdoggy1214 wrote...

This is what you're talking about:


Seriously though,  how hard was that to impliment.   I just wanted to be taunted by harbie a bit.

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MEHEM was an excellent addition to the series. I didn't mind extended cut, and I appreciate that BioWare wanted Shepard to make a bigger sacrifice. But i chose MEHEM because it's more in line with the endings of ME1 and ME2 and those felt like the best type of ending for this trilogy. Also, can't get enough Suicide Mission as the background music for climactic scenes!

Now, if only MrFob could find a way to splice Miranda or Jack into the reunion scene for my other Shepards...

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The EC made the ending better but it was still,.... lacking for a mass effect game..

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When he said "serve us"... hmm, it was quite unclear, maybe it meant "save us" (from the crucible lol)

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Adding Harbinger's voice is a huge plus. I hope someday MrFob and everyone will be able to do even more with the end.

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KingZayd wrote...

Zonnex wrote...

KingZayd wrote...

Mdoggy1214 wrote...

This is what you're talking about:


holy crap! that was awesome!

Shame they kept that Normandy evac scene though :/ I was half expecting the new and improved Harbinger to troll Shepard by blowing up the Normandy as it took off.

I might have to try this MEHEM thing at some point.

I actually like the evac scene since we know why there are some survivors. Though after Leviathan DLC, I actually hoped that Harbinger went after the Normandy to space, after critically wounding Shepard, only to be attacked by Leviathan itself to distract Harbinger from getting to the Normandy and even the Crucible.

Well anyhow, I hope Bioware sees this and adds Harbingers voice in ME3.


I don't like it because it feels so stupid:
The fate of the galaxy rests upon us getting to the Citadel, but when one of his squadmate is hurt, Shepard stops charging towards the beam AND gets the Normandy to abandon a fight where it sounds the Normandy would be useful. To make things worse, he sends his completely uninjured squadmate away too, as if reaching the Citadel wasn't that important anyway? If the mission fails, everyone's going to die anyway! This is not helping.

To make things worse, all those non-VIPs are getting slaughtered while all this is going on, and that's perfectly okay.

And there's the issue with Harbinger ignoring it all. He could have blown up the Normandy, and killed a bunch of the charging troops with the resulting explosion, and Shepard too. 

Yeah I don't like that new scene at all.

Harbinger does improve that scene considerably though. I'm going to have to try the MEHEM and see what else is new.

Not gonna disagree 'cause I understand why you didn't like it. Least you provided a valid reason.

The way I see it, Harbinger didn't want to destroy the Normandy 'cause, as I wanted to imagine, it would't bother shooting at something that doesn't pose a threat to it. However, as we see Harbinger leaves, I assume he would go after the Normandy and the Crucible only to be stopped by the Leviathan. Honestly, I was actually hoping to see a climatic battle between the two after the Leviathan DLC. Guess I was expecting too much from it. Anyhow, I realy do like how they, the MEHEM team, added Harbinger's ME2 voice in it. Was once hoping to hear it's voice originally. Wonder if saying "This Hurts You" when critically wounding Shepard would have been much or cliché?

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Hudathan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

It's good that the PC users have done this. I still prefer the original ending, but if this satisfies the people who are unhappy with the original ending, that's awesome.

I find it ironic that after so many months of "we're not just asking for a happy ending" so many complainers are flocking to something called the Happy Ending Mod.

Actually ironic isn't quite the right word for it, I just find it funny.

Starbrat is gone, that right there get's rid of a massive issue, also Anderson still dies and Shepard looks like she is going to burst into dam tears. It's proper bittersweet.

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Mr.House wrote...

Hudathan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

It's good that the PC users have done this. I still prefer the original ending, but if this satisfies the people who are unhappy with the original ending, that's awesome.

I find it ironic that after so many months of "we're not just asking for a happy ending" so many complainers are flocking to something called the Happy Ending Mod.

Actually ironic isn't quite the right word for it, I just find it funny.

Starbrat is gone, that right there get's rid of a massive issue, also Anderson still dies and Shepard looks like she is going to burst into dam tears. It's proper bittersweet.



Plus it is the only proper mod available (as far as I know) out there. I'm guessing it could be called "Bozo The Clown Mod" and people would flock to it anyway as long as it it's anything but the ending presented by Bioware.

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Mr.House wrote...

Hudathan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

It's good that the PC users have done this. I still prefer the original ending, but if this satisfies the people who are unhappy with the original ending, that's awesome.

I find it ironic that after so many months of "we're not just asking for a happy ending" so many complainers are flocking to something called the Happy Ending Mod.

Actually ironic isn't quite the right word for it, I just find it funny.

Starbrat is gone, that right there get's rid of a massive issue, also Anderson still dies and Shepard looks like she is going to burst into dam tears. It's proper bittersweet.


Starbrat is gone in MEHEM? If anything, that utterly ruins it and is itself a massive issue. Fact of the matter is, Thessia's Prothean VI and Leviathan hint at Starbrat existing. Taking him out creates far bigger plotholes then the apparent ones everyone on here loves to complain about. Seriously, it makes the real plotholes in ME3 look like small potholes while the Starbrat missing is a crater sized one. How can the fanbase be happy with a plothole that big in this fanmod while getting upset about the lesser ones in the unmodded game? Do you hate the Starbrat that much, that you're willing to make the biggest plothole in the game just to be rid of him? Kind of hypocritical.

Modifié par andy69156915, 30 novembre 2012 - 10:34 .


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andy69156915 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Hudathan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

It's good that the PC users have done this. I still prefer the original ending, but if this satisfies the people who are unhappy with the original ending, that's awesome.

I find it ironic that after so many months of "we're not just asking for a happy ending" so many complainers are flocking to something called the Happy Ending Mod.

Actually ironic isn't quite the right word for it, I just find it funny.

Starbrat is gone, that right there get's rid of a massive issue, also Anderson still dies and Shepard looks like she is going to burst into dam tears. It's proper bittersweet.


Starbrat is gone in MEHEM? If anything, that utterly ruins it and is itself a massive issue. Fact of the matter is, Thessia's Prothean VI and Leviathan hint at Starbrat existing. Taking him out creates far bigger plotholes then the apparent ones everyone on here loves to complain about. Seriously, it makes the real plotholes in ME3 look like small potholes while the Starbrat missing is a crater sized one. How can the fanbase be happy with a plothole that big in this fanmod while getting upset about the lesser ones in the unmodded game? Do you hate the Starbrat that much, that you're willing to make the biggest plothole in the game just to be rid of him? Kind of hypocritical.



Don't worry. The mod is in it's early stages. The hints can be removed.

And this is a mod. Made by one person. In his spare time. Shared for free. Funnily enough people are more prone to turn a blind eye to flaws in those cases.
The vanilla ending was created by a huge team of, supposedly, professional people.

Modifié par anorling, 30 novembre 2012 - 10:46 .


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andy69156915 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Hudathan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

It's good that the PC users have done this. I still prefer the original ending, but if this satisfies the people who are unhappy with the original ending, that's awesome.

I find it ironic that after so many months of "we're not just asking for a happy ending" so many complainers are flocking to something called the Happy Ending Mod.

Actually ironic isn't quite the right word for it, I just find it funny.

Starbrat is gone, that right there get's rid of a massive issue, also Anderson still dies and Shepard looks like she is going to burst into dam tears. It's proper bittersweet.


Starbrat is gone in MEHEM? If anything, that utterly ruins it and is itself a massive issue. Fact of the matter is, Thessia's Prothean VI and Leviathan hint at Starbrat existing. Taking him out creates far bigger plotholes then the apparent ones everyone on here loves to complain about. Seriously, it makes the real plotholes in ME3 look like small potholes while the Starbrat missing is a crater sized one. How can the fanbase be happy with a plothole that big in this fanmod while getting upset about the lesser ones in the unmodded game? Do you hate the Starbrat that much, that you're willing to make the biggest plothole in the game just to be rid of him? Kind of hypocritical.


Vendetta also said the controller (who was inferred, not observed)'s was certain: Galactic annihilation. And he hinted that the Citadel was used to power the Crucible, when the Starchild says the opposite.

Besides, the Starchild not existing (at least not on the Citadel), doesn't mean there isn't a controller. Just that we haven't met the controller.  No plotholes caused by removing the Starchild.

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KingZayd wrote...

andy69156915 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Hudathan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

It's good that the PC users have done this. I still prefer the original ending, but if this satisfies the people who are unhappy with the original ending, that's awesome.

I find it ironic that after so many months of "we're not just asking for a happy ending" so many complainers are flocking to something called the Happy Ending Mod.

Actually ironic isn't quite the right word for it, I just find it funny.

Starbrat is gone, that right there get's rid of a massive issue, also Anderson still dies and Shepard looks like she is going to burst into dam tears. It's proper bittersweet.


Starbrat is gone in MEHEM? If anything, that utterly ruins it and is itself a massive issue. Fact of the matter is, Thessia's Prothean VI and Leviathan hint at Starbrat existing. Taking him out creates far bigger plotholes then the apparent ones everyone on here loves to complain about. Seriously, it makes the real plotholes in ME3 look like small potholes while the Starbrat missing is a crater sized one. How can the fanbase be happy with a plothole that big in this fanmod while getting upset about the lesser ones in the unmodded game? Do you hate the Starbrat that much, that you're willing to make the biggest plothole in the game just to be rid of him? Kind of hypocritical.


Vendetta also said the controller (who was inferred, not observed)'s was certain: Galactic annihilation. And he hinted that the Citadel was used to power the Crucible, when the Starchild says the opposite.

Besides, the Starchild not existing (at least not on the Citadel), doesn't mean there isn't a controller. Just that we haven't met the controller.  No plotholes caused by removing the Starchild.



Agree, the supposed leader of the reapers could just have been killed with the rest before we met him.

Seriously. Is people unable to use their imagination these days? Must you be spoonfed every single little detail of the story?
Can't be that hard to imagine that we just never met the "leader".

Modifié par anorling, 30 novembre 2012 - 10:49 .


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andy69156915 wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

Hudathan wrote...

Brovikk Rasputin wrote...

It's good that the PC users have done this. I still prefer the original ending, but if this satisfies the people who are unhappy with the original ending, that's awesome.

I find it ironic that after so many months of "we're not just asking for a happy ending" so many complainers are flocking to something called the Happy Ending Mod.

Actually ironic isn't quite the right word for it, I just find it funny.

Starbrat is gone, that right there get's rid of a massive issue, also Anderson still dies and Shepard looks like she is going to burst into dam tears. It's proper bittersweet.


Starbrat is gone in MEHEM? If anything, that utterly ruins it and is itself a massive issue. Fact of the matter is, Thessia's Prothean VI and Leviathan hint at Starbrat existing. Taking him out creates far bigger plotholes then the apparent ones everyone on here loves to complain about. Seriously, it makes the real plotholes in ME3 look like small potholes while the Starbrat missing is a crater sized one. How can the fanbase be happy with a plothole that big in this fanmod while getting upset about the lesser ones in the unmodded game? Do you hate the Starbrat that much, that you're willing to make the biggest plothole in the game just to be rid of him? Kind of hypocritical.


no .. not in my books ..

the hint provided on thessia was thin and out of context. the leviathan only stated, that they created an ai to solve their problem. even they did not know what it became and where it is now - or they simply did not tell us.

you can conclude, that harbinger is the ai, who took control over the first reaper. harbinger speeks to us on behalf of the reapers and takes control over its minions. it fits, is in context with the series and therefore no real plot hole.

i.e., the control ending is a plot hole the size of a carrier:
- the player has no chance to go for control during the game. only one time, shepard touches this subject and it is dropped right after that. shepard can note, that cerberus got the job done - but thats all. in no discussion with tim, we have the chance to tell him, that we want to help him or control the reapers yourself - even during the last face off, there is no such option - shepard tells tim that he is insame to go for control, tim dies and 10 minutes later, shepard touches the rods. THAT is a plothole- not giving not into frail hints.