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ReallyAngry6969

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Labeling this game the "spiritual successor to Baldur's Gate II " is a travesety.  The people who put their heart and soul into creating BGII should be offended by this game.  

I paid $60 dollars for Dragon Age: Origins.  After five hours of gameplay, the only substantive side quests in this painfully linear and horribly, horribly unoriginal storyline require that I purchase and download additional content.  

This is offensive to my intelligence- and probably offensive to anyone who played BGII.  If you don't feel the same way, then you should consider that you aren't smart enough to realize that you're the victim of an industry that has fallen by the wayside out of greed.

This game is, in no conceivable way, as immersive as BGII.  Moreover, the developers clearly didn't care enough about the quality of this game to consider that having to pay $7 and spend time downloading additional content everytime you wanted to do a ****ing side-quest might ruin what little immersion this game could have potentially offered. 

This game is a ****ing sham.

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Rayvolution

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5 hours really isn't long enough to judge a game that takes over 80 hours to beat, WITHOUT doing any side quests and trying to rush..

Hell, in BG1 it takes a newbie player about 2 hours to do all the little side mission, search everything and get out of Candlekeep, While you're stuck in Candlekeep the game feels a lot smaller than it really is.. If you judged Baldur's Gate on the first 2 hours of gameplay, you'd be an idiot.

..Just saying..

Modifié par Rayvolution, 04 novembre 2009 - 07:21 .


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MrGOH

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Troll thread. Move along.

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ReallyAngry6969

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You're incorrect:

You could get the feel of  the BG series right away, even if you were stuck in the candlekeep or Irenicus's dungeon.  You were free to move from location to location at will- though within certain limits.  There were also more sidequests in the Candlekeep and Irenicus's dungeon than there have been so far total in DA:O.  

Also, I didn't have to get on the internet, pay $7, and then download a patch to enter the Djinni's layer in Irenicus's dungeon to get Severok's sword. 

Did I?

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Vaffancullo

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MrGOH wrote...

Troll thread. Move along.


hahaha agreed.

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ReallyAngry6969

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Troll thread?



Do I not sound serious? Clearly neither of you have played any of the Baldur's Gate series. Either that or your standards for these types of games have been significantly lowered as a result of all the garbage that has come out since BGII.

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Rayvolution

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You had to pay $20 ($30? I don't remember) to go visit the Tales of the Sword Coast and Throne of Baal areas though.

Regardless, 5 hours is NOT long enough to judge a game claimed to take "140 hours" to do everything in, before DLC. I think you're too quick to judge this game.

I still have my reservations, I've found points I don't like and points I do. But I too am only about 5 hours into the game, and I'm still pretty much "Just getting the ball rolling" inthe storyline. So it's expected to still be linear somewhat.

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MrGOH

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I have played through BG and BG2 half a dozen times. Doesn't change the fact you're a troll. Go to the spoiler forum and start a thread about sidequests - I'm sure you'll hear back from folks who have found them.

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play the game till 15 hours played, then re-asses your initial statements, it should improve, if not, play another 10 hours, if it doesn't, you are completely stubborn and probably lying

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Sheylan

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At 5 hours you would barely be past the Tower iirc. Trust me, it opens up a BUNCH after that.

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ReallyAngry6969

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Found them? I've found them- but I haven't been able to do them because I don't want to pay $7 dollars to download them.



Can you honestly say that there is any justification for making us pay to download the substantive side quests, THE ****ING DAY THE GAME CAME OUT? You think there's so much content that they couldn't get it all on the disc?



You don't understand what people mean when they say troll.

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I sort of agree with OP on certain points. BG2 this is not. The DLC's being shoved in your face IN THE GAME is a joke. They know a ton of people are going to end up buying them and making Dragon Age a $100 game eventually.



The storyline is very cliche and uninspired imo.

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MrGOH

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You found Warden's Keep. Not the other sidequests. Troll.

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ReallyAngry6969

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Yea, the Warden's Keep is a SUBSTANTIVE side-quest. There's another one soon after it involving a golem controller rod or some nonsense. However, the part where you find the ring on that dead Templar and then give it to the guy in that town where you find Sten does not count as a side quest.



Sidequests in BGII- The Planar Sphere, the Shade Lord, Lord Firkraag, and the dozens of other in depth experiences that filled every zone. These are side quests. Some bull**** delivery quest that you'd find in World of Warcraft is not. The quests in this game are just a ****ty as the ones in MMOs, so is the plot.



Sadly, there is no PvP to make up for it.

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Avrii

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chill :) maybe you should install bg 2 and remove da:o ?



this is not a game for everyone, keep smile.

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Rayvolution

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ReallyAngry (HAH, funny! I hope you made that name just to troll, and thats not actually your username you use everywhere) You have some serious issues. I've been gaming for most of my life, and I've never felt the urge to complain as much as you have about any game. Sure, there have been major release flops. But you're acting like DAO was like Spore.

If you want a game you REALLY have the right to moan about, go play Spore. now THERE'S a blatant ripoff and overhyped bit of garbage. But did I go to their website and complain? No. I just never played it again after I completed the game once.

You still haven't even given this game a chance, I gave Spore a chance! I even beat it! Don't call a game "bad" until you've actually played enough of the game to have the RIGHT to call it bad.

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ReallyAngry6969

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I'm going to play it all the way through, or until I'm positive that it's not going to open up and stop sucking.



Then I'll reinstall BG II. Ironically, I still haven't played all the classes or even experienced all of the content on the evil side.



DAO doesn't even have a ****ing evil side. It just has a douche, cliche good side.

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This game is not Baldur's Gate 3, and honestly, though Baldur's Gate saga is between my all-time CRPGs favourites, for what I've seen so far this game is amazing. If you think that sidequest are boring just grab the toolset and start making your own, that way we could see what you call SUBSTANTIVE sidequests, who knows, maybe you could teach Bioware's people how to make a good rpg? (ironic)



Fortunately, there's no pvp at all, people can play a mmorpg if they want pvp :)

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MrGOH

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ReallyAngry6969 wrote...

Yea, the Warden's Keep is a SUBSTANTIVE side-quest. There's another one soon after it involving a golem controller rod or some nonsense. However, the part where you find the ring on that dead Templar and then give it to the guy in that town where you find Sten does not count as a side quest.

Sidequests in BGII- The Planar Sphere, the Shade Lord, Lord Firkraag, and the dozens of other in depth experiences that filled every zone. These are side quests. Some bull**** delivery quest that you'd find in World of Warcraft is not. The quests in this game are just a ****ty as the ones in MMOs, so is the plot.

Sadly, there is no PvP to make up for it.


Those were hybrid quests - you had to do some of them to advance the main quest. But go ahead, hate the game and troll the forum.

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KingSarevok

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Wow, because of all these mixed reactions regarding the game I'm really excited to make my own judgement...

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um, ive done a couple good sidequests now at around 8 hours in, dunno wtf your on about. The golem sidequest is free to dl if you buy a new version, and wardens keep is otpional, theres plenty of other sidquests to do...

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King, all the bad reactions are people being stupid and not giving the game a chance, like this guy, or people hating on the graphics when they look pretty good to me.

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*cough* troll.

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Zenthar Aseth

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.... HAha, the OP is an obvious troll. Calling everyone who doesn't agree with him "stupid."...



And he's pissed because he can't play a DLC side quest without paying for it? LOL. See you at the Fallout 3, Oblivion, Mass Effect etc etc forums..

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OP - it has been clearly reported all over the place, that the first part of the game - probably 5-10 hours depending on how fast you are - is very linear. However, after this it becomes a lot more open, and the many sidequests start to open up to you. And yes, I would certainly call some of the statements you make in your post trolling.



SlimCharles - every post I have seen from you is extremely negative, on multiple threads. If you hate the game this much stop playing it, and get off the forums.