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[HiddenInWar]

4stringwizard wrote...

Keep dreaming! It'll never happen! NEVER!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! (deep breath) AHAHAHAHA!!

[Lawrence0294]

anorling wrote...



More Miranda equals more Yvonne Strahovski. it's a win-win

He understands.

[Zoo Keeper Zeke]

Regardless of likelihood, I'll say I support this...given Jack is involved as well (I like both, but Jack slightly more as LI). With two playthroughs just for each LI before even considering Paragaon/Renegade variants THAT might be worth more than 800 points to me.

[enayasoul]

Lawrence0294 wrote...

anorling wrote...

More Miranda equals more Yvonne Strahovski. it's a win-win

He understands.

Yes! 

[Baldrick67]

God no.

With the track record for ME3 and DLC they would screw over her backstory and personality and then kill her off in a cruel way to add what they think is "emotional attachment".

[thehomeworld]

Hell no that's what Sanctuary was we don't need a Miranda DLC or any other character for that matter.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Finn the Jakey wrote...

Why is she more important than Jack? Or Grunt? Or Samara? Or Thane? Or Zaeed etc...

Because she is Yvonne Strahovski, and therefore superior to everything.


EDIT: I will say though, if the only thing holding them back is getting Ms. Strahovski back, I totally don't mind them finding another VA that sounds close enough like they did with Mordin.

Modifié par TsaiMeLemoni, 01 décembre 2012 - 02:37 .

[Nightwriter]

Well, if we're throwing out wishful thinking that has no hope of happening anyway, then I'd like a Cerberus-themed DLC in which:

• Both Jack and Miranda make significant appearances.
• A Cerberus story unfolds that explores the internal politics of Cerberus, and how the Illusive Man's fall into madness and indoctrination affected the disparate people and cells under his command.
• Our perspective of Cerberus is tested.
• The player must respond to the question of whether such concepts as transhumanism, nationalism, consequentialism, and ambition have become as permanently stained as the Cerberus logo is.
• Miranda's past with Cerberus is addressed and resolved.
• Jack's past with Cerberus is addressed and resolved.
• Miranda and Jack are used as effective storytelling devices, not just romance fanservice, each of them serving as opposite poles of perspective on the subject of whether or not there was ever any good in Cerberus before the Illusive Man went completely nuts.
• An explanation is provided for why Miranda wasn't doing more important things in ME3, AHEM.
• Romance content for both these characters is provided (supplementary; you don't need to romance them to enjoy the DLC).
• Jack and Miranda's arc gets resolved (bonus only; I'd like the "filet her myself" thing to get settled. I'd also like Jack to get an opportunity to tell Miranda "I told you so," and for Miranda to have to acknowledge that her conviction in Cerberus's leadership was wrong. On the flipside, it would be nice for Miranda to get to prove to Jack that not everyone who's ever worn black and gold has performed, or condoned the performance of, child vivisection).
• I would like it to generally seem like the writers are giving both characters the time of day, the way it did with Liara in LotSB.

Other nice-to-haves:

• Oriana comes back in a way that redeems her in my eyes and makes my resentment for her very existence go poof.
• Jack's students make an appearance, because that was a great piece of character development and I don't want it to be left behind. Plus Jack never really got payback on Cerberus for the attack on her students. You think pummeling Cerberus lackeys was enough? Pfft. Mama bear revenge needed.
• Jacob makes some Cerberus-relevant appearance, though I'm hesitant to suggest it because BioWare seems historically incapable of producing Jacob content that has merit.
• Obviously Thane isn't mentioned here because he is dead and doesn't have a terribly strong Cerberus connection, but nonetheless his romance treatment was a travesty and something should be done, whatever that may be.

Modifié par Nightwriter, 01 décembre 2012 - 03:17 .

[TsaiMeLemoni]

Nightwriter wrote...

Well, if we're throwing out wishful thinking that has no hope of happening anyway, then I'd like a Cerberus-themed DLC in which:

• Both Jack and Miranda make significant appearances.
• A Cerberus story unfolds that explores the internal politics of Cerberus, and how the Illusive Man's fall into madness and indoctrination affected the disparate people and cells under his command.
• Our perspective of Cerberus is tested.
• The player must respond to the question of whether such concepts as transhumanism, nationalism, consequentialism, and ambition have become as permanently stained as the Cerberus logo is.
• Miranda's past with Cerberus is addressed and resolved.
• Jack's past with Cerberus is addressed and resolved.
• Miranda and Jack are used as effective storytelling devices, not just romance fanservice, each of them serving as opposite poles of perspective on the subject of whether or not there was ever any good in Cerberus before the Illusive Man went completely nuts.
• An explanation is provided for why Miranda wasn't doing more important things in ME3, AHEM.
• Romance content for both these characters is provided (supplementary; you don't need to romance them to enjoy the DLC).
• Jack and Miranda's arc gets resolved (bonus only; I'd like the "filet her myself" thing to get settled. I'd also like Jack to get an opportunity to tell Miranda "I told you so," and for Miranda to have to acknowledge that her conviction in Cerberus's leadership was wrong. On the flipside, it would be nice for Miranda to get to prove to Jack that not everyone who's ever worn black and gold has performed, or condoned the performance of, child vivisection).
• I would like it to generally seem like the writers are giving both characters the time of day, the way it did with Liara in LotSB.

Other nice-to-haves:

• Oriana comes back in a way that redeems her in my eyes and makes my resentment for her very existence go poof.
• Jack's students make an appearance, because that was a great piece of character development and I don't want it to be left behind. Plus Jack never really got payback on Cerberus for the attack on her students. You think pummeling Cerberus lackeys was enough? Pfft. Mama bear revenge needed.
• Jacob makes some Cerberus-relevant appearance, though I'm hesitant to suggest it because BioWare seems historically incapable of producing Jacob content that has merit.
• Obviously Thane isn't mentioned here because he is dead and doesn't have a terribly strong Cerberus connection, but nonetheless his romance treatment was a travesty and something should be done, whatever that may be.

Very nicely thought out; I'd love to see this in action.

[enayasoul]

Nightwriter wrote...

Well, if we're throwing out wishful thinking that has no hope of happening anyway, then I'd like a Cerberus-themed DLC in which:

• Both Jack and Miranda make significant appearances.
• A Cerberus story unfolds that explores the internal politics of Cerberus, and how the Illusive Man's fall into madness and indoctrination affected the disparate people and cells under his command.
• Our perspective of Cerberus is tested.
• The player must respond to the question of whether such concepts as transhumanism, nationalism, consequentialism, and ambition have become as permanently stained as the Cerberus logo is.
• Miranda's past with Cerberus is addressed and resolved.
• Jack's past with Cerberus is addressed and resolved.
• Miranda and Jack are used as effective storytelling devices, not just romance fanservice, each of them serving as opposite poles of perspective on the subject of whether or not there was ever any good in Cerberus before the Illusive Man went completely nuts.
• An explanation is provided for why Miranda wasn't doing more important things in ME3, AHEM.
• Romance content for both these characters is provided (supplementary; you don't need to romance them to enjoy the DLC).
• Jack and Miranda's arc gets resolved (bonus only; I'd like the "filet her myself" thing to get settled. I'd also like Jack to get an opportunity to tell Miranda "I told you so," and for Miranda to have to acknowledge that her conviction in Cerberus's leadership was wrong. On the flipside, it would be nice for Miranda to get to prove to Jack that not everyone who's ever worn black and gold has performed, or condoned the performance of, child vivisection).
• I would like it to generally seem like the writers are giving both characters the time of day, the way it did with Liara in LotSB.

Other nice-to-haves:

• Oriana comes back in a way that redeems her in my eyes and makes my resentment for her very existence go poof.
• Jack's students make an appearance, because that was a great piece of character development and I don't want it to be left behind. Plus Jack never really got payback on Cerberus for the attack on her students. You think pummeling Cerberus lackeys was enough? Pfft. Mama bear revenge needed.
• Jacob makes some Cerberus-relevant appearance, though I'm hesitant to suggest it because BioWare seems historically incapable of producing Jacob content that has merit.
• Obviously Thane isn't mentioned here because he is dead and doesn't have a terribly strong Cerberus connection, but nonetheless his romance treatment was a travesty and something should be done, whatever that may be.

  
[*] Sounds good!!  Might I had one to the list.  Shepard and Miranda actually share a FREAKING KISS on the LIPS.   
[*]THe cheek was fine but sheeeh!   Give Shepard some love from Miranda.   I would have loved to see more flirty banter.  Damn! 

Modifié par enayasoul, 01 décembre 2012 - 05:21 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

I HIGHLY Support! I want a DLC that will add to the Romantic Relationship<3. Liaramancers got it with LOTSB, so....why can't we have something similar?

Modifié par MASSEFFECTfanforlife101, 01 décembre 2012 - 05:21 .

[Rip504]

I do not.

[ObserverStatus]

 I know that a lot of folks think that every character Shepard can scrog should get their own DLC, but the fact remains that the only reason Liara got her own DLC is that she is Shepard's canon LI.  Even if you think that Shepard is having relations with another character, it is a lie, he is actually scrogging Liara.  Ever since the collector attack at the start of ME2, Shepard has been in a coma and everything that he has experienced since than has actually been a dream which Liara has been moulding to her own designs with her telepathy. Miranda probably isn't even real.

Modifié par bobobo878, 01 décembre 2012 - 05:34 .

[MASSEFFECTfanforlife101]

Liara is Canon for BioWare, not for many player around the planet.

[ObserverStatus]

MASSEFFECTfanforlife101 wrote...
Liara is Canon for BioWare, not for many player around the planet.

Well yes, but your canon is just a illusion that your Sheopard dreamed up in his post-collector attack slumber.

[TsaiMeLemoni]

bobobo878 wrote...

 I know that a lot of folks think that every character Shepard can scrog should get their own DLC, but the fact remains that the only reason Liara got her own DLC is that she is Shepard's canon LI.  Even if you think that Shepard is having relations with another character, it is a lie, he is actually scrogging Liara.  Ever since the collector attack at the start of ME2, Shepard has been in a coma and everything that he has experienced since than has actually been a dream which Liara has been moulding to her own designs with her telepathy. Miranda probably isn't even real.

This and your avatar go together scarily well.

[Matchy Pointy]

There will never be a DLC specificly about a character that has a hight chance of even being dead and never appearing in the game.

[Nightwriter]

bobobo878 wrote...

 I know that a lot of folks think that every character Shepard can scrog should get their own DLC, but the fact remains that the only reason Liara got her own DLC is that she is Shepard's canon LI.  Even if you think that Shepard is having relations with another character, it is a lie, he is actually scrogging Liara.  Ever since the collector attack at the start of ME2, Shepard has been in a coma and everything that he has experienced since than has actually been a dream which Liara has been moulding to her own designs with her telepathy. Miranda probably isn't even real.

[Femlob]

You know what might actually work as a DLC, especially knowing it won't change anything anyway?

One that doesn't feature Shepard or his crew at all. Something like Multiplayer Plus; no big-name heroes, but ordinary people put in an extraordinary situation. For the sake of argument, let's say you'd control Lieutenant Victus and experience some of his backstory and the personal losses he had to cope with. I'll bet my right arm that there's plenty of drama and excitement in the hot zones.

Since anything that features Shepard and his one-lane road to certain doom inexorably ends up ruining the game even further, taking the entire main quest out of the equasion might actually be beneficial.

I still wouldn't buy it, but at least it'd be something that hasn't been tried before.

[Massa FX]

Yeah. We want to hear more about her sister and her father and her sister and her father and her sister and her father and her sister and her father....

Oh! We maybe have had enough now?

[Lawrence0294]

Nightwriter wrote...

Well, if we're throwing out wishful thinking that has no hope of happening anyway, then I'd like a Cerberus-themed DLC in which:

• Both Jack and Miranda make significant appearances.
• A Cerberus story unfolds that explores the internal politics of Cerberus, and how the Illusive Man's fall into madness and indoctrination affected the disparate people and cells under his command.
• Our perspective of Cerberus is tested.
• The player must respond to the question of whether such concepts as transhumanism, nationalism, consequentialism, and ambition have become as permanently stained as the Cerberus logo is.
• Miranda's past with Cerberus is addressed and resolved.
• Jack's past with Cerberus is addressed and resolved.
• Miranda and Jack are used as effective storytelling devices, not just romance fanservice, each of them serving as opposite poles of perspective on the subject of whether or not there was ever any good in Cerberus before the Illusive Man went completely nuts.
• An explanation is provided for why Miranda wasn't doing more important things in ME3, AHEM.
• Romance content for both these characters is provided (supplementary; you don't need to romance them to enjoy the DLC).
• Jack and Miranda's arc gets resolved (bonus only; I'd like the "filet her myself" thing to get settled. I'd also like Jack to get an opportunity to tell Miranda "I told you so," and for Miranda to have to acknowledge that her conviction in Cerberus's leadership was wrong. On the flipside, it would be nice for Miranda to get to prove to Jack that not everyone who's ever worn black and gold has performed, or condoned the performance of, child vivisection).
• I would like it to generally seem like the writers are giving both characters the time of day, the way it did with Liara in LotSB.

Other nice-to-haves:

• Oriana comes back in a way that redeems her in my eyes and makes my resentment for her very existence go poof.
• Jack's students make an appearance, because that was a great piece of character development and I don't want it to be left behind. Plus Jack never really got payback on Cerberus for the attack on her students. You think pummeling Cerberus lackeys was enough? Pfft. Mama bear revenge needed.
• Jacob makes some Cerberus-relevant appearance, though I'm hesitant to suggest it because BioWare seems historically incapable of producing Jacob content that has merit.
• Obviously Thane isn't mentioned here because he is dead and doesn't have a terribly strong Cerberus connection, but nonetheless his romance treatment was a travesty and something should be done, whatever that may be.

Sounds good to me.
I really think Miranda and Jack could have the best banter ever. And them resolving their issues in a mature and cool way would be fantastic. It would be really nice for both to mak peace.
And boy does jack need a romance scene, a real one Bioware, not some dancing everyone gets.

[KiwiQuiche]

Would prefer a Jack one, but I'm game.

Or at least change or outfit; she was supposed to be hiding, yet all she did was take her logo off her catsuit. Not smart, Miranda.

[Raizo]

Don't get me wrong, I am a huge Miranda fan, I was completely disgusted with how her character was handled in ME3 and under normal circumstances I would gladly accept a DLC that gave us more Miranda but the cold hard reality of the situation is that I no longer have any faith in Bioware as game developers and I am afraid that they would only ruin her character if they tried to force more content for her into ME3.

I have come to the conclusion that Bioware does not really understand why Miranda fans are so passionate about this character and that the deep, complex character that we got and fell in love with ME2 was just a fluke, a happy accident of chance ( with Mac Walters writing the cold hearted, efficient renegade driven by logic on critical path areas and Patrick Weekes writing the softer, warmer, more feminine Miranda on the Normandy ) and that any attempts to replicate this character in ME3 will fall flat on it's ass.

So to answer the topic, NO, I would rather not get a Miranda specific DLC for ME3. However I wouldn't say no to it if I got it ( I wouldn't pay $15/€15 for it either ). I'm more in favour of DLC that expands roles fro all ME2 squaddies however.

[David7204]

Miranda's and Jack's past with Cerberus HAVE been addressed and resolved. Miranda has clearly resolved the issue by the end of ME 2 and so has Jack by ME 3. How is going back to angst about that a shred better then revisiting Miranda's issues with her sister?

This was brought up pretty constantly in the Miranda thread. That Miranda should have a big emotional breakdown over working with Cerberus and it will just be the most romantic thing ever. And frankly, it's dumb. And I really can't see how a mission with an overarching theme of Miranda confronting her supposed Cerberus 'issues' would go anywhere else. I think a much more in-character scenario involving Miranda confronting Cerberus would end with her being unfazed - no real issues in the first place. Which would be a pretty pointless and unsatisfying mission.

In addition, the time for the player's 'perspective about Cerberus' to be tested is over. ME 2 was the game for that. Yes, the relationship between and Shepard could have been done better in ME 3, but ultimately, Cerberus is now an enemy.  Shepard is on one side of the fence and the Illusive Man is on the other.

Modifié par David7204, 01 décembre 2012 - 10:50 .