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[Battlebloodmage]

iakus wrote...

mopotter wrote...

My choice would be 10 total.  (ME universe had something around 14-15 total)   So I would love to see 2 gay, 2 bi, 2 straight; then 2 bi who is only interested in a hero and 2 bi who is only interested in an evil character.  

I'd probably never romance the evil ones, but it would be a nice addition.  In fact as long as I'm wishing, I'd like to see the romance option leave or be killed for attacking me if they are not alined with my character.  

I like 2/2/2.  1 male and one female each.  Everyone has four options, 2 M/F and 2 S/S.  And there isn't 100% overlap.

David Gaider said he likes to do one for each, but there's just not enough resources. Chances are there's only 4 choices. Regardless of how you slice the number, gay or straight gamers would only end up with one LI if sexual orientation is set.

[Saibh]

XCelfa wrote...

I don't know if I have that same qualm. If you recall in DA:O you could conscript Loghain into the party and Alistair would flip absolute cheesewheels. You also cannot convince Fenris to trust mages and abandon his revenge, you cannot convince Anders to not blow up the Chantry, you cannot convince Merrill to leave the eluvian alone or denounce blood magic, you can't keep Isabela from running off with the tome, etc.

I laud Bioware's individualization and their companions' strength of character. If we have any bone to pick about followers, it's definitely not there. Just my opinion, of course.

I didn't go into it due to length, but I did consider that in my original point. However, I am speaking in what you are capable of achieving with them romantically. Fenris begins to like Bethany, and might even fall in love with you, a mage, and assist you in supporting mages. Yes, you are never able to utterly shake him of his distrust, but you are able to have a powerful influence over it. I don't take qualms with this, actually--you are given seven years with the guy, after all. And I'll point out that the rest of your examples (excluding Anders', but you're never even made aware of his plan) all possess some form of subversion. Isabela will come back, Alistair can be convinced to become king, etc.

But I am speaking mostly in terms of personality and personal boundaries. All of the characters will literally romance anyone, provided you flirt with them at the right opportunities and complete their quests. The only type of character who cannot be romanced is a purely hateful and nasty one. In reality, people are less compatible with certain types, are unwilling to pursue others, etc. In BioWare games, you have to be a bottom-of-the-barrel **** to dissuade them. 

Modifié par Saibh, 30 novembre 2012 - 08:43 .

[XCelfa]

Xewaka wrote...

XCelfa wrote...
You do realize that sexual orientation is largely an invention of modernity?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA No.

Thank you for your eloquent response. It certainly shows how much interest you have in a thoughtful exploration of this topic.

Modifié par XCelfa, 30 novembre 2012 - 08:46 .

[DarkKnightHolmes]

The people posting in this thread mostly say "Yes" but the poll says "No".

Blackrising wrote...

Since people are so adamant about not having all characters be available to either gender, Bioware should just include 2 gay and 2 bi romance options. I'd REALLY like to see what people will say when they suddenly only have one straight option.

As a straight person, wouldn't mind nor care. Though I can't say that for everyone on this forum.

Modifié par DarkKnightHolmes, 30 novembre 2012 - 08:50 .

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

XCelfa wrote...

Thank you for your eloquent response. It certainly shows how much interest you have in a thoughtful exploration of this topic.

I think he'd be more interested in a thoughtful exploration of the topic if your 'factoid' weren't so very wrong.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 30 novembre 2012 - 08:47 .

[MACharlie1]

Yes.

To some degree. Harder for some characters to flip over others.

[Maria Caliban]

Pseudocognition wrote...

XCelfa wrote...

Thank you for your eloquent response. It certainly shows how much interest you have in a thoughtful exploration of this topic.

I think he'd be more interested in a thoughtful exploration of the topic if your 'factoid' weren't so very wrong.

Sexual orientation is a modern social construct.

The way we categorize orientation is a product of 19th century psychologists creating categories for sexual and gender pathologies.

[Pseudo the Mustachioed]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Pseudocognition wrote...

XCelfa wrote...

Thank you for your eloquent response. It certainly shows how much interest you have in a thoughtful exploration of this topic.

I think he'd be more interested in a thoughtful exploration of the topic if your 'factoid' weren't so very wrong.

Sexual orientation is a modern social construct.

The way we categorize orientation is a product of 19th century psychologists creating categories for sexual and gender pathologies.

I understand that, I'm just skeptical that's what the poster meant.

To be fair to the poster I do assume the worst of people in sexuality threads :\\

Edit: After rereading earlier posts, s/he obviously knows what s/he's talking about, so my apologies, though I'm not quite sure how that fact relates to the post it was in response to.

Modifié par Pseudocognition, 30 novembre 2012 - 09:19 .

[David Gaider]

Closing this down-- this discussion always leads to arguments over sexuality and then into rudeness. It also is irrelevant. The companions are not "all bisexual", and the idea that some people (who can only come to this realization with either outside knowledge or upon repeated play) don't like the supposed subjective sexuality of romance characters is less important than fairness and fun gameplay. As I've said repeatedly, unless we possessed the resources to do a wider array of romance characters this will indeed be the way to go.

Full stop.