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#126
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Punisher cork wrote...

Tried the eagle with the destroyer, full mag, ext clip. It still sucks. Just eagle fanboys being happy about it. I'll no longer complain when I never see the eagle again. Or at least until I unlock the 4 more Valiants I need. A vastly superior gun. Take that. 


Sounds like you were using it as a primary weapon.

Stop that. It's a secondary source of damage at a VERY light weight. For said weight, it gets really nice damage.

NEVER equip light weapons on a Destroyer. It's a waste of his potential. No wonder you weren't liking results.

Bottom line is, it's the weapon of choice that people pick if they want decent damage at manageable weight. It's not a PPR, or a Harrier, it's the Eagle. You're expecting too much firepower from a sidearm.


As a personal example: I equip it on my Turian Soldier (codenamed "Ashen Eagle". Kinda had to give this weapon to him) and my Drellguard (which Imma replace with a Claymore soon). My Turian primarily rocks a Krysae (Marksman, dude. It's the only way I like this weapon, but it's so fun to use in said combo), but if he needs automatic suppressive fire, he pulls the Eagle out and pops some heads. My Drellguard would use it as a "weapon damage" dealer to back up his Charge>ClusterNades combo. Notice how the Eagle is NEVER my primary source of damage? It's there to keep your head above water on classes that can't afford a lot of weight. It does that job admirably.

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DullahansXMark wrote...

Punisher cork wrote...

Tried the eagle with the destroyer, full mag, ext clip. It still sucks. Just eagle fanboys being happy about it. I'll no longer complain when I never see the eagle again. Or at least until I unlock the 4 more Valiants I need. A vastly superior gun. Take that. 


Sounds like you were using it as a primary weapon.

Stop that. It's a secondary source of damage at a VERY light weight. For said weight, it gets really nice damage.

NEVER equip light weapons on a Destroyer. It's a waste of his potential. No wonder you weren't liking results.

Bottom line is, it's the weapon of choice that people pick if they want decent damage at manageable weight. It's not a PPR, or a Harrier, it's the Eagle. You're expecting too much firepower from a sidearm.


As a personal example: I equip it on my Turian Soldier (codenamed "Ashen Eagle". Kinda had to give this weapon to him) and my Drellguard (which Imma replace with a Claymore soon). My Turian primarily rocks a Krysae, but if he needs automatic suppressive fire, he pulls the Eagle out and pops some heads. My Drellguard would use it as a "weapon damage" dealer to back up his Charge>ClusterNades combo. Notice how the Eagle is NEVER my primary source of damage? It's there to keep your head above water on classes that can't afford a lot of weight. It does that job admirably.


I actually like using the Locust on him.

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Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Blah blah blah sidearm, blah blah blah suppression, blah blah blah Ashen Eagle.


I actually like using the Locust on him.


I've heard good things about that combo. Just wasn't really my "thing", I guess. I like being able to land consistent headshots without having to hit the Y button every few seconds (key to the Harrier, by the way!), and the Eagle kinda gives me that. Like I said, it's a sidearm, one I need to fulfill a certain niche with.

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DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Blah blah blah sidearm, blah blah blah suppression, blah blah blah Ashen Eagle.


I actually like using the Locust on him.


I've heard good things about that combo. Just wasn't really my "thing", I guess. I like being able to land consistent headshots without having to hit the Y button every few seconds (key to the Harrier, by the way!), and the Eagle kinda gives me that. Like I said, it's a sidearm, one I need to fulfill a certain niche with.


What does Y do? >__>

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Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Blah blah blah sidearm, blah blah blah suppression, blah blah blah Ashen Eagle.


I actually like using the Locust on him.


I've heard good things about that combo. Just wasn't really my "thing", I guess. I like being able to land consistent headshots without having to hit the Y button every few seconds (key to the Harrier, by the way!), and the Eagle kinda gives me that. Like I said, it's a sidearm, one I need to fulfill a certain niche with.


What does Y do? >__>

I'm assuming Marksman

#131
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chipsandwich wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Blah blah blah sidearm, blah blah blah suppression, blah blah blah Ashen Eagle.


I actually like using the Locust on him.


I've heard good things about that combo. Just wasn't really my "thing", I guess. I like being able to land consistent headshots without having to hit the Y button every few seconds (key to the Harrier, by the way!), and the Eagle kinda gives me that. Like I said, it's a sidearm, one I need to fulfill a certain niche with.


What does Y do? >__>

I'm assuming Marksman


This. Sorry, I forgot we still have PC scrubs and all. :whistle:

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Ah, I actually meant on the Destroyer. But I like it on the TSol too.

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Kenadian wrote...

Ah, I actually meant on the Destroyer. But I like it on the TSol too.


Oh. Well, the only remotely similar weapon is the Revenant, which doesn't have a 3x headshot multiplier with a kickass armor penetrator mod... there's also the Typhoon, but I kinda just like to pretend that paperweight-weight doesn't exist.

If you have a PPR and you're packing that on him too, be my guest.

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DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Ah, I actually meant on the Destroyer. But I like it on the TSol too.


Oh. Well, the only remotely similar weapon is the Revenant, which doesn't have a 3x headshot multiplier with a kickass armor penetrator mod... there's also the Typhoon, but I kinda just like to pretend that paperweight-weight doesn't exist.

If you have a PPR and you're packing that on him too, be my guest.


Phaeston is my TSol weapon of choice. :P Destroyer is PPR, yeah.

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Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Ah, I actually meant on the Destroyer. But I like it on the TSol too.


Oh. Well, the only remotely similar weapon is the Revenant, which doesn't have a 3x headshot multiplier with a kickass armor penetrator mod... there's also the Typhoon, but I kinda just like to pretend that paperweight-weight doesn't exist.

If you have a PPR and you're packing that on him too, be my guest.


Phaeston is my TSol weapon of choice. :P Destroyer is PPR, yeah.


lol, good man.

I used to do a Krysae/Phaeston combo on my own TSol, but then I found out the Eagle does more damage per shot. Kinda had to switch at that point.

TGI with a PPR is lots of fun, too. Revived the class' fun value for me (got sick of running a Harrier after a while).

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DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Ah, I actually meant on the Destroyer. But I like it on the TSol too.


Oh. Well, the only remotely similar weapon is the Revenant, which doesn't have a 3x headshot multiplier with a kickass armor penetrator mod... there's also the Typhoon, but I kinda just like to pretend that paperweight-weight doesn't exist.

If you have a PPR and you're packing that on him too, be my guest.


Phaeston is my TSol weapon of choice. :P Destroyer is PPR, yeah.


lol, good man.

I used to do a Krysae/Phaeston combo on my own TSol, but then I found out the Eagle does more damage per shot. Kinda had to switch at that point.

TGI with a PPR is lots of fun, too. Revived the class' fun value for me (got sick of running a Harrier after a while).


Saber is your friend.

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how about we delete YOUR FACE

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Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

DullahansXMark wrote...

Kenadian wrote...

Ah, I actually meant on the Destroyer. But I like it on the TSol too.


Oh. Well, the only remotely similar weapon is the Revenant, which doesn't have a 3x headshot multiplier with a kickass armor penetrator mod... there's also the Typhoon, but I kinda just like to pretend that paperweight-weight doesn't exist.

If you have a PPR and you're packing that on him too, be my guest.


Phaeston is my TSol weapon of choice. :P Destroyer is PPR, yeah.


lol, good man.

I used to do a Krysae/Phaeston combo on my own TSol, but then I found out the Eagle does more damage per shot. Kinda had to switch at that point.

TGI with a PPR is lots of fun, too. Revived the class' fun value for me (got sick of running a Harrier after a while).


Saber is your friend.


Compared to what feels like a green energy sword? ... can't do it. Saber's damn awesome, but I have to hand that off elsewhere.

#139
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Lord Rosario wrote...

DcIhNaGv3z wrote...

it would be nice if the eagle got a buff.



Eagle Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [60.9-76.1] to [67.0-83.8]

Eagle Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [67.0-83.8] to [74.9-93.7]
- Clip size increased from 18 to 24
- Spare ammo increased from [180-225] to [192-240]

Eagle Pistol
- Damage increased from [74.9-93.7] to [86.1-107.7]
- Encumbrance decreased from [0.6-0.25] to [0.45-0.25]

Uh-huh...

Punisher cork wrote...

 4 weeks in a row, the eagle, I
still have 3 more until I never see it again. Knowing how terrible
bioware is now, they'll probably give me the other 3 if I compete the
next challenges. This is bull****. All the N7 guns are good or unique at
least. This pistol is worse than the predator. Make it worth getting or
get rid of it. Don't think about it for 5 more months, just fix
it. 


An Eagle I does more damage than a Predator X per shot.. It also has a longer magazine, better accuracy, and of course, is fully automatic.. <_<



Yes, because the predator is such a well regarded banshee destroyer.

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The Eagle sucks. I love to trade in my Eagle IV for Hurricane Upgrades. The game is to be fun, how can it be fun when you get **** rewards


I'd take that trade. You can have my crappicane!

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aeryk117 wrote...

For those who love the Eagle, at what level (I-X) did you start to like it?


Lvl 4

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Xaijin wrote...

Lord Rosario wrote...

DcIhNaGv3z wrote...

it would be nice if the eagle got a buff.



Eagle Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [60.9-76.1] to [67.0-83.8]

Eagle Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [67.0-83.8] to [74.9-93.7]
- Clip size increased from 18 to 24
- Spare ammo increased from [180-225] to [192-240]

Eagle Pistol
- Damage increased from [74.9-93.7] to [86.1-107.7]
- Encumbrance decreased from [0.6-0.25] to [0.45-0.25]

Uh-huh...

Punisher cork wrote...

 4 weeks in a row, the eagle, I
still have 3 more until I never see it again. Knowing how terrible
bioware is now, they'll probably give me the other 3 if I compete the
next challenges. This is bull****. All the N7 guns are good or unique at
least. This pistol is worse than the predator. Make it worth getting or
get rid of it. Don't think about it for 5 more months, just fix
it. 


An Eagle I does more damage than a Predator X per shot.. It also has a longer magazine, better accuracy, and of course, is fully automatic.. <_<



Yes, because the predator is such a well regarded banshee destroyer.


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#143
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Fortunately, at the end of the day, they won't remove the Eagle from inventory. Too many people actually use it.

#144
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if you still dont know how to use it, you're doing it wrong

#145
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Marksman speced for headshots, ROF & stability along with turian vet speced for headshots + eagle = everz bad weapon becomes.....very deadly as long as you aim for the head.

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We could always do something as outrageous as buff the damn thing...

Nope, too severe, deleting it from the game sounds much simpler and logical.

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Every time i get a commendation pack I pray to get the eagle. It's an awesome pistol for my Fury.

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No!

Rather delete the useless Valkyrie...

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Ok noob question.
Eagle has stability issues that makes full auto fire fairly problematic. It's damage is fine. It's putting bullets on enemies that's the problem,
Whenever I've used it outside tsol I've found the stability issue to be significant particularly at range.

So is the only answer stability consumables. Hurricane used to have this issue but with the smg stability, it's really solid. No stability mods on pistols though.

So how are the eagle lovers overcoming the stability thing? I'm an Xbox peasant btw, so don't have super pc level mouse stability adjustment. If it really is a lol l2p skill thing ill fully accept this, but if folks have another trick to overcome stability issues I'd love to learn about it.

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Lord Rosario wrote...

DcIhNaGv3z wrote...

it would be nice if the eagle got a buff.



Eagle Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [60.9-76.1] to [67.0-83.8]

Eagle Heavy Pistol
- Damage increased from [67.0-83.8] to [74.9-93.7]
- Clip size increased from 18 to 24
- Spare ammo increased from [180-225] to [192-240]

Eagle Pistol
- Damage increased from [74.9-93.7] to [86.1-107.7]
- Encumbrance decreased from [0.6-0.25] to [0.45-0.25]

Uh-huh...

Punisher cork wrote...

 4 weeks in a row, the eagle, I
still have 3 more until I never see it again. Knowing how terrible
bioware is now, they'll probably give me the other 3 if I compete the
next challenges. This is bull****. All the N7 guns are good or unique at
least. This pistol is worse than the predator. Make it worth getting or
get rid of it. Don't think about it for 5 more months, just fix
it. 


An Eagle I does more damage than a Predator X per shot.. It also has a longer magazine, better accuracy, and of course, is fully automatic.. <_<


Wonderfully executed.