Kinom001 wrote...
Fortunately, at the end of the day, they won't remove the Eagle from inventory. Too many people actually use it.
Delete the Eagle
#151
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 07:26
#152
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 08:19
Battlepope190 wrote...
Delete OP instead.
That...
#153
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 08:22
#154
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 08:25
sirjenixofbj wrote...
Punisher cork wrote...
*snip*
Valiant- one of the best SR's
Crusader- I don't care for it, but others do
Hurricane-much better after 4 months of Bioware shuffling their feet what to do about it
Valkyrie- Pretty good, but way too heavy .
Eagle-I don't care for it, but others do.
Fix'd
It's a good caster weapon. I treat it like an SMG.
#155
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 08:52
Lvl 1aeryk117 wrote...
For those who love the Eagle, at what level (I-X) did you start to like it?
#156
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 09:01
#157
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 09:02
#158
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 09:14
#159
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 09:16
#160
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 09:17
#161
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 09:21
Modifié par LuckyBullet95, 01 décembre 2012 - 09:35 .
#162
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 10:01
#163
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 11:26
DullahansXMark wrote...
Punisher cork wrote...
Tried the eagle with the destroyer, full mag, ext clip. It still sucks. Just eagle fanboys being happy about it. I'll no longer complain when I never see the eagle again. Or at least until I unlock the 4 more Valiants I need. A vastly superior gun. Take that.
Sounds like you were using it as a primary weapon.
Stop that. It's a secondary source of damage at a VERY light weight. For said weight, it gets really nice damage.
NEVER equip light weapons on a Destroyer. It's a waste of his potential. No wonder you weren't liking results.
Bottom line is, it's the weapon of choice that people pick if they want decent damage at manageable weight. It's not a PPR, or a Harrier, it's the Eagle. You're expecting too much firepower from a sidearm.
As a personal example: I equip it on my Turian Soldier (codenamed "Ashen Eagle". Kinda had to give this weapon to him) and my Drellguard (which Imma replace with a Claymore soon). My Turian primarily rocks a Krysae (Marksman, dude. It's the only way I like this weapon, but it's so fun to use in said combo), but if he needs automatic suppressive fire, he pulls the Eagle out and pops some heads. My Drellguard would use it as a "weapon damage" dealer to back up his Charge>ClusterNades combo. Notice how the Eagle is NEVER my primary source of damage? It's there to keep your head above water on classes that can't afford a lot of weight. It does that job admirably.
Isn't the Hurricane much better for exactly this kind of thing though? If you're using the Eagle as a secondary to a sniper rifle you don't need the Eagle's superior accuracy anyhow - you're only going to be pulling that thing out in close quarters anyhow.
#164
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 11:34
Hoping to god for the Hurricane of Valkyrie this week.
#165
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 11:37
Millafan4526 wrote...
aimimia wrote...
But but... the Eagle is good
No it's not
#166
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 11:43
Deerber wrote...
Millafan4526 wrote...
aimimia wrote...
But but... the Eagle is good
No it's not
I just broke 180k with it on a Turian Soldier. I was playing with a friend who also broke 160k with a Wraith wielding Volus though... yeah the PUGs were REALLY bad...
#167
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 11:50
LuckyBullet95 wrote...
Deerber wrote...
Millafan4526 wrote...
aimimia wrote...
But but... the Eagle is good
No it's not
I just broke 180k with it on a Turian Soldier. I was playing with a friend who also broke 160k with a Wraith wielding Volus though... yeah the PUGs were REALLY bad...
You can do the same with a predator. Is the predator good? No.
#168
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 12:01
Well after the fourth buff it is at least playable now and doesn't weigh that much.Millafan4526 wrote...
aimimia wrote...
But but... the Eagle is good
No it's not
But I agree, other promotional weapons are more fun.
#169
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 12:37
#170
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 12:43
Seifer006 wrote...
Cyonan wrote...
To be honest I'd rather take my Eagle than my Valkyrie.
both IMO are terrible weapons.
Valiant, Hurricane are such great weapons
I'd trade my Valiants to Eagle upgrades, any day.
And I just got Eagle 8! YES!
#171
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 12:43
Deerber wrote...
LuckyBullet95 wrote...
Deerber wrote...
Millafan4526 wrote...
aimimia wrote...
But but... the Eagle is good
No it's not
I just broke 180k with it on a Turian Soldier. I was playing with a friend who also broke 160k with a Wraith wielding Volus though... yeah the PUGs were REALLY bad...
You can do the same with a predator. Is the predator good? No.
You can do the same with all Pistols and SMGs. What they lack in damage they make up for with the sheer ease to headshot. You can easily take down a Marauder in about 8 bullets if you headshot on the Turian Soldier specced for Headshots for passive and Marksman. They are sidearms and weigh less than 1 for a reason, they aren't meant to deal amazing damage. Though they can do just that if you have good aim. A good player can turn them from Sidearm to Primary Weapons.
#172
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 12:53
#173
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 12:56
Miniditka77 wrote...
Wow- that's really fast. Looks like you're on PC, and I guess you mouse-clickers can shoot a little faster. Can you do it while aiming consistently though?Boceto wrote...
Miniditka77 wrote...
Not true. The Predator X has a higher theoretical maximum DPS than the Eagle III. But you will never do more DPS with the Predator X unless you can pull the trigger almost 500 RPM. Can you do that? I can't, and I think most people can't even come close.Boceto wrote...
I think I said this like a thousand times... The Predator X has a higher damage than the Eagle III and is a lot more accurate. Equip a scope mod on you Predator and forget the Eagle.
EDIT: In fact, you have to pull the trigger faster than 468 RPM with the Predator X to do more damage than the Eagle I.
500RPM=8.33RPS, I can get 6.9RPS (414RPM), close enough, I'd say. If the target is more than ca. 10-15 meters away I'll get more hits than with the Eagle.
I'm on XBox, and I'd be surprised if there are more than a few people in the entire world who can pull an XBox trigger that fast, even without aiming. I can barely max out the Phalanx's fire rate (250 RPM).
Yes, I'm playing on PC. I don't really know how fast you can pull the trigger on console, especially XBox, I might try it on ME2, which I've still got for the XBox. And yes, with a scope mod I'm still able to aim and fire this fast, usually I can even get a good amount of headshots.
Squire Rudi wrote...
Your 414 is almost 20% below. I wouldn't call that close enough.
And you'll have to keep this up for 3.5 seconds to match the full clip of the Eagle.
And you'll have to pull this off a couple of dozen times during a 20 minute match.
All while keeping your crosshairs on target to make every bullet count.
Good luck - even if I COULD do it, I think I'd pass.
Before the buffs, I'd never have thought that I'd rush to the Eagle's defense. Hell, I even chimed in when there was a similar thread a few months back. But nowadays, this gun is far better than its reputation.
Well, I got the 6.9RPS on 15 seonds tests so the 3.5 seconds for the full clip shouldn't be a problem. Also, I'm sometimes using the Predator like this. And as I said, I can still get enough hits.
The 20% RPM I'm missing are still better than not hitting the enemy because of the bad accuracy that the Eagle has.
The Eagle isn't completely terrible, but I don't see any reason to use it, at least on PC.
By the way: This comparison is not suppposed to say something like "even the crappy Predator is better than the Eagle", I like the Predator quite a bit.
Edit: IMO it still needs a small buff for damage and accuracy.
Modifié par Boceto, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:58 .
#174
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 01:08
#175
Posté 01 décembre 2012 - 04:03
LuckyBullet95 wrote...
Deerber wrote...
LuckyBullet95 wrote...
Deerber wrote...
Millafan4526 wrote...
aimimia wrote...
But but... the Eagle is good
No it's not
I just broke 180k with it on a Turian Soldier. I was playing with a friend who also broke 160k with a Wraith wielding Volus though... yeah the PUGs were REALLY bad...
You can do the same with a predator. Is the predator good? No.
You can do the same with all Pistols and SMGs. What they lack in damage they make up for with the sheer ease to headshot. You can easily take down a Marauder in about 8 bullets if you headshot on the Turian Soldier specced for Headshots for passive and Marksman. They are sidearms and weigh less than 1 for a reason, they aren't meant to deal amazing damage. Though they can do just that if you have good aim. A good player can turn them from Sidearm to Primary Weapons.
Sure, that was exactly my point. It doesn't prove that the Eagle isn't a pretty bad weapon. And as it is now, I need proof of that before I start to use it again on any character.





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