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Summary
- The volus HM is hereafter known as a shell.
- The shell can be cancelled early by pressing the melee button.
- When the shell detonates, it will also do damage in the same radius.
- If the shell is cancelled early, the detonation will not inflict any damage.
- You are not able to deploy the shell while cloaked (light melee).
- The approximate duration of invulnerability for the shell is 0.9-1 seconds upon deployment. Sustaining the shell will not grant further invulnerability even upon new triggers.
- As long as the shell is sustained, the volus gains approximately 52.5% - 53.5% real/actual DR.
- Each trigger of the shell will regenerate 10% of the volus's max shields.
- Shield boost grants invulnerability for approximately 1.5s upon casting to the caster. Allies do not gain invulnerability.
- The shell inflicts 100% (no bonus) damage to all defences except armour, which it does 75% damage to.
- The DR provided by the shell and shield boost can be stacked. This includes external sources and can actually stack beyond the listed 90% in the shield boost, despite shield boost being used.

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Modifié par corlist, 01 décembre 2012 - 01:04 .


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SoundWraith

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Great work as always from you guys. +1

Just one question. Does the invincility period from shield boost affect allies too or just the volus himself?

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SoundWraith wrote...

Great work as always from you guys. +1

Just one question. Does the invincility period from shield boost affect allies too or just the volus himself?


Allies do not get invincibility.

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Cool data corlist!!! +1,000

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Ellacey wrote...

SoundWraith wrote...

Great work as always from you guys. +1

Just one question. Does the invincility period from shield boost affect allies too or just the volus himself?


Allies do not get invincibility.


Yes we did a quick test and can confirm that allies do not get invulnerability.

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Its called a volus love bubble! *kssssk*

We know not what this "shell" is that you speak of earth clan.... *kssssk*

:police:

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 Thank you very much for this Corlist! :wizard:

Edit: does the DR from the shell add up to the DR from shield boost or other sources as usual?

Modifié par Deerber, 01 décembre 2012 - 10:59 .


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Annomander wrote...

Its called a volus love bubble! *kssssk*

We know not what this "shell" is that you speak of earth clan.... *kssssk*

:police:


volus hug time!

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I firmly believe that the description for the shell should be "Hamster Ball" and that post deployment the volus should be able to roll it around like a pinball, each enemy bumped into deals melee damage and conveys a 20% speed boost. Imagine the hilarity!

TILT!

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Deerber wrote...

 Thank you very much for this Corlist! :wizard:

Edit: does the DR from the shell add up to the DR from shield boost or other sources as usual?


The shell and shield boost stack addtively and can be seen in the test data. I have no idea about other sources but I'll be testing that soon.

Modifié par corlist, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:01 .


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Annomander wrote...

Its called a volus love bubble! *kssssk*

We know not what this "shell" is that you speak of earth clan.... *kssssk*

:police:


Won't there be too many bubbles? Asari bubble (stasis), justicar bubble (biotic sphere), volus bubble (heavy melee/ biotic orbs).

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corlist wrote...

Ellacey wrote...

SoundWraith wrote...

Great work as always from you guys. +1

Just one question. Does the invincility period from shield boost affect allies too or just the volus himself?


Allies do not get invincibility.


Yes we did a quick test and can confirm that allies do not get invulnerability.


Weird. So those claims about saving allies from sync-kills with shield boost are lies?


P.S.: Just like with the Paladin shield, I don't nessecarely see the point of the bubble. Sure, it helps you survive, but  that's not gonna be too usefull on Gold/Platinum when you need to be stationary for it and, most importantly, can't shoot while doing it.

Modifié par BlackbirdSR-71C, 01 décembre 2012 - 12:00 .


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BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...


Weird. So those claims about saving allies from sync-kills with shield boost are lies?


P.S.: Just like with the Paladin shield, I don't nessecarely see the point of the bubble. Sure, it helps you survive, but  that's not gonna be too usefull on Gold/Platinum when you need to be stationary for it and, most importantly, can't shoot while doing it.


Can ride over (block) a possed scion grenade//banshee warp//geth prime cannon of death barage when your shield boost invul is on cooldown ... 

Modifié par peddroelmz, 01 décembre 2012 - 01:20 .


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Thank you sir. so is there any difference in damage for a melee build vs a shield/health build.

ps the volus doesn't need cover because of his shell and shield boost, pick duration increase in Rank 6 if you plan on bringing heavy weapons. But BW should increase the base duration to 4 sec

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oh and could you test to see if you can free a squadmate from a banshee grip with shell.

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corlist wrote...

Deerber wrote...

 Thank you very much for this Corlist! :wizard:

Edit: does the DR from the shell add up to the DR from shield boost or other sources as usual?


The shell and shield boost stack addtively and can be seen in the test data. I have no idea about other sources but I'll be testing that soon.


I'm sorry, I took your word and didn't look at the data. Thanks anyway ;)

BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

corlist wrote...

Ellacey wrote...

SoundWraith wrote...

Great work as always from you guys. +1

Just one question. Does the invincility period from shield boost affect allies too or just the volus himself?


Allies do not get invincibility.


Yes we did a quick test and can confirm that allies do not get invulnerability.


Weird. So those claims about saving allies from sync-kills with shield boost are lies?


P.S.: Just like with the Paladin shield, I don't nessecarely see the point of the bubble. Sure, it helps you survive, but  that's not gonna be too usefull on Gold/Platinum when you need to be stationary for it and, most importantly, can't shoot while doing it.


I've been playing with that bubble a bit with my melee-specced sentinel, and I can assure you that while it's just for the lulz when it comes to actually damage things with it, it's a very useful tool for survival.
Its invulnerablity frame is wide enough to let you easily block off high damaging attacks like Primes/Scions cannons, Banshees novas, Atlas rockets, etc... Even phantoms' melee. Although you have to prey that she remembers to be staggered and doesn't sync you afterward.
It's also extremely useful to block out DoT effects.

All of this, you can do when shield boost is on CD. If you combine the two of them smartly, you can tank entire spawns on the later gold waves. Litterally. I tanked a full spawn on wave 9 of a cerberus game for around 10-15 seconds. :D

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So if I hit shield boost then drop the shell, I'm technically invulnerable for 6 seconds if I spec it as such?

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kaecyus wrote...

So if I hit shield boost then drop the shell, I'm technically invulnerable for 6 seconds if I spec it as such?


Nope, DR will probably be capped at 90%, if you can even reach it with the numbers. At least I think, since it's clearly stated in the shield boost description.

Modifié par Deerber, 01 décembre 2012 - 04:24 .


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BlackbirdSR-71C wrote...

corlist wrote...

Ellacey wrote...

SoundWraith wrote...

Great work as always from you guys. +1

Just one question. Does the invincility period from shield boost affect allies too or just the volus himself?


Allies do not get invincibility.


Yes we did a quick test and can confirm that allies do not get invulnerability.


Weird. So those claims about saving allies from sync-kills with shield boost are lies?


P.S.: Just like with the Paladin shield, I don't nessecarely see the point of the bubble. Sure, it helps you survive, but  that's not gonna be too usefull on Gold/Platinum when you need to be stationary for it and, most importantly, can't shoot while doing it.


Check yourself by playing volus on gold and platinum.
He's one of the top characters that have high survivability thanks to his shield boost and bubble.
He rarely dies and I can carry package across the map without dying on platinum.

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Deerber wrote...

kaecyus wrote...

So if I hit shield boost then drop the shell, I'm technically invulnerable for 6 seconds if I spec it as such?


Nope, DR will probably be capped at 90%, if you can even reach it with the numbers. At least I think, since it's clearly stated in the shield boost description.


Quote from OP:

- The DR provided by the shell and shield boost can be stacked. This includes external sources and can actually stack beyond the listed 90% in the shield boost, despite shield boost being used.

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kaecyus wrote...

So if I hit shield boost then drop the shell, I'm technically invulnerable for 6 seconds if I spec it as such?


From what I know it'll be 53+37.5=90.5% DR. Close, but still not quite there.. and 1st stagger will end it anyway. 

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kaecyus wrote...

So if I hit shield boost then drop the shell, I'm technically invulnerable for 6 seconds if I spec it as such?

no and what would be the point for doing nothing for 6 seconds

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kaecyus wrote...

Deerber wrote...

kaecyus wrote...

So if I hit shield boost then drop the shell, I'm technically invulnerable for 6 seconds if I spec it as such?


Nope, DR will probably be capped at 90%, if you can even reach it with the numbers. At least I think, since it's clearly stated in the shield boost description.


Quote from OP:

- The DR provided by the shell and shield boost can be stacked. This includes external sources and can actually stack beyond the listed 90% in the shield boost, despite shield boost being used.


I'm sorry, it was edited after I read it. Clearly I was mistaken then =]

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Ellacey wrote...

SoundWraith wrote...

Great work as always from you guys. +1

Just one question. Does the invincility period from shield boost affect allies too or just the volus himself?


Allies do not get invincibility.


No invincibility for allies, but they still get the bubble's DR bonus, right?

If not, I need to stop bubbling around teammates doing device objectives.

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Great info OP :)