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[Slimcharles]

All I ever did was miss and die. I swear 2H sucks in this game.

6 hours in and I rerolled a rogue and having a much easier time in general.

Anyone want to share their magical recipe for success as a 2H warrior?

[Margoshi]

Yeah I eventually changed back to sword/shield because it just sucked so hard.

[MrGOH]

Dexterity and Con are important to invest in. I'm playing a 2H warrior - he didn't come into his own until 5th or 6th level. Then I started pouring point into strength and he's a killing machine with the 2H talents. Teamed up with a sword and board (or Shale), rogue and mage and killing everything in sight.

[delra123]

I changed to Mage after a 2H try. Now I'm out of trainings and already quite a bit into the actual game... and I realize that thanks to mana regen between battles this is actually a real mage game. I don't even need my tanks to deal damage at all, I only need them to draw enemy attention so I can rain hell upon my enemies undistracted.

[Slimcharles]

I've noticed magic in general is completely overpowered in the game. I think melee takes a backseat, but I will continue with the rogue for now. 2H is just a joke. When I took Sten on my team we ended up being "The League of Extraordinary Gimped Gentlemen."

[Lotion Soronarr]

I really hope that is not the case. I love 2-handed swords. They are my favorite weapon.

[Ankitol]

I'd have to agree with the OP so far, I'm around level 8. I'm hoping once you get the specializations 2handers will become stronger. So far we take hits like we're made out of glass and dish out sub-par damage. Can any high level players enlighten us? Or do they not exist because they're so gimp

[Vulturi]

I enjoy using 2 hands they do great damage. I can hold my own fighting bosses because of indomitable and my crit strike does 70s im lvl 12. W haste I'm plowing down enemies. I admit it is underpowered but still good

[Nassou]

Try playing the game more instead of complaining. You'll find that 2h warriors are effective. I'll follow up with a quick L2P.

[Vinditater]

2h is fine. Most people get all goofy and pump points into STR. Well you can't hit anything really really hard, let alone at all with awful Dex. My 2Her does fine.

[DaeFaron]

So..Two handed warrior split between strength and dex? and not really worry about con or such?



I'm curious because I plan on making a 2-handed warrior sometime.

[Bullets McDeath]

As noted, 2H is fine. I played one up to level 17, he was no gimp, that's for sure. Liek anything, it just requires the right talents and consideration of your attributes as you level up. Now, depending on your playstyle or what you're looking for, 2H might not provide what you want... but it definitely doesn't suck.



Although I'm pretty sure my DW Rogue could take my 2H Warrior in a one-on-one if it really came down to it.

[Taleroth]

Vinditater wrote...

Well you can't hit anything really really hard, let alone at all with awful Dex.

A point in Strength is exactly the same as a point in Dexterity with regards to how often you hit.  There is absolutely no difference whatsoever.

You can argue for putting points in Dexterity for defense.  But arguing as if Dexterity contributes more to to-hit is silly.

3 points Str.  2 Str 1 Dex, 1 Str 2 Dex, 3 Dex.  It's all exactly the same for contributing to to-hit.

Modifié par Taleroth, 29 novembre 2009 - 03:41 .

[Loc'n'lol]

No, put everything in strength and you may have a chance to deal somewhat good damage in the end. Dex doesn't help you hit more than strength does. Dex is the best stat you can invest in if you want NOT to GET hit. But then, if you do that, you're much better off with a shield warrior.

[Inarai]

You have to build the character right(All strength won't do it), and you have to understand that the 2H tree is basically a melee controller. I mean, look at Stunning Blows - a chance for any crit to stun, which also applies to talents? That's quite effective.

[Torias]

Strength and Willpower are the most important for two-handed weapon warriors... by the end you want to spamming special abilities almost nonstop...

[DaeFaron]

So, you'd say slap bulk into strength, maybe a few in con for HP? or willpower for the stamina (which I know about now)



Though I have a really good Idea what i'll do for my redone sword-shield warrior, just curious about the 2h one i'll do.

[Roxlimn]

Two Handers are not Damage Dealers. If you want DPS, you're looking for a DW build. Two handed builds are for melee Control and for penetrating armor. A Maul with the right runes and Talents will cut through Golems like butter.



That said, Stunning Blows, Mighty Blow, Two Handed Sweep - fantastic melee control.

[Pseron Wyrd]

I've been putting all my points into strength so far and and level 9 I'm not missing very much any more. And I'm doing a whole lot of damage. And I can't be knocked down or stunned. And I soak up considerable damage in massive armor. And... the 2H finishing moves rock. I can watch those all day long and never get bored. I'm not seeing a down side to this.



I have a Mage waiting outside Flemeth's hut right now, eager to get on with her adventure, but I'm having too much fun with my 2H warrior to play her at the moment.

[kroosaydur]

Vinditater wrote...

2h is fine. Most people get all goofy and pump points into STR. Well you can't hit anything really really hard, let alone at all with awful Dex. My 2Her does fine.

uhhhh dosnt strength determine 2h hit chance? dex does nothing for 2h,

[T1l]

The real issue I have with 2H in Dragon Age is the speed. It's horrifically slow, to the point where it's just not fun to play. Not only is the actual gameplay tedious, the output is crap compared to other DPS warrior specs - archery included. Bioware really should have made the strength stat directly affect swing speed for 2-Handers, and have dexterity affect all other weapons in a similar manner. Two Handed swords are not as slow and as cumbersome as they appear in Dragon Age at all.



What also, to me, is mindboggling is how Bioware went with a Nebenhut stance for two-handed weapons which in reality was (or is) almost never used. A basic vom Tag or Ochs stance would have been far better and more realistic. These slow, broard arching swings with little to no regard for personal defence are almost comical; something you’d expect from a berserker, or a barbarian with no formal training maybe – but Sten? No.



It’s a pretty shoddy implementation, honestly, that will probably be fixed with community add-ons.

[Inarai]

T1l wrote...

The real issue I have with 2H in Dragon Age is the speed. It's horrifically slow, to the point where it's just not fun to play. Not only is the actual gameplay tedious, the output is crap compared to other DPS warrior specs

Because it's not modeled as DPS.

[FlatCat]

kroosaydur wrote...

Vinditater wrote...

2h is fine. Most people get all goofy and pump points into STR. Well you can't hit anything really really hard, let alone at all with awful Dex. My 2Her does fine.

uhhhh dosnt strength determine 2h hit chance? dex does nothing for 2h,

Attack rating is 50 percent strength bonus plus 50% dex bonus no matter what you are using.  I know the manual and tooltips say otherwise but they are both wrong.  The game is a mess.

[T1l]

Inarai wrote...

Because it's not modeled as DPS.

BS. What is it, then? Don't say "tanking", or I'll reach through the computer and slap you.

[thestreaker]

The activated abilities for 2H cut your attack speed down to ~1s, maybe a bit more, but a huge improvement over the original 2.5s. On top of that, there's plenty of knockdowns (and someone on this forum mentioned the stunning blows gives a 50% stun chance during a critical hit). A good strat is to gang up on enemies and spike-damage them to death, and disrupt with KD's as much as possible. The 2H-sweep talent is great, as is war cry from the champion line.

My playthrough with myself and sten as 2-handers was probably the easiest playthrough I've had so far. Emphasis was heavily on strength (yes, it helps both damage and attack rating), with occasional willpower, and lots of +stamina items (and armor sets that cut down fatigue). Nevermind that with two 2H warriors, I had 4 critical hit abilities right off the bat, which combined with cone of cold made some fights laughably easy.

Modifié par thestreaker, 29 novembre 2009 - 04:30 .