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[Warpwny]

So, I'm now regularly doing gold matches since I have some higher level weapons/Ultra rare weapons unlocked.

Now, I primarily play Geth Engie, Asari Valkyre, Turian Sentinel, and Asari Adept. I've recently experimented with the Female Qurian Engineer that I just unlocked.

So, that leads me to my post. I win most of my games in gold. Minus a few Collector games where an objective wave spawns infinite possessed Preatorians. However, I find that I am at best 3rd place. Only once with my Asari Valkyrie have I ever hit second.

While the leader will have 100k points or more and the second place person 90K I'm stuck in the ranges of 45K if I am last or up to 60ishK if I am third.

I've used equipment, blown through consumables, watched Jumpin's guides for some of the classes and I'm just not doing so well. I don't mind ebing carried ever once in a while.. but.. I'm begining to feel like I am a leech in my games.

http://social.biowar...xie&platform=pc

There is my manifest. Any suggestions on ways to improve? Will check back in an hour then again in the morning.

[The Aesthetic Ghant]

Keep playing, babe.

[Mr Awesome 0ne]

The Aesthetic Ghant wrote...

Keep playing, babe.

This - minus the babe portion...

[aimimia]

The two major things that I was told which are the score uppers, is using soft cover more and preventing downtime. Also learning the spawns and how to control them. Other then that just practice and practice

Modifié par aimimia, 02 décembre 2012 - 06:10 .

[TruthlessHER086]

You said you liked to play as the Turian sentinel. I would recommend him. Max out everything but warp. And use the Hurricane or Harrier rifle you have
The Turian has a natural recoil reduction, and a much higher weapon damage boost and headshot damage boost than other characters, With a recent update. Overload everything then spray. Overload can stun targets and take out shields as you know. So this can set you up for some free shots with those power weapons. The hurricane and harrier both have great damage so you shouldnt have a problem with killing. Just, as always, be cautious since he cannot roll. Hope this helps you in anyway!

[aaronisbla]

keep playing. really. and before someone tells you that score shouldn't matter * it shouldn't* i can understand using that as a measure of success for some people.

you have to take into account the class they other players are using, and their gear. Chances are, if you're rocking a lvl 10 avenger and he's using a lvl 10 harrier, he's going to out score you.

don't worry about their score, just work on you

[Computron2000]

The fastest way you can get higher on the score board? Use higher level equipment especially cyclonic mods and AP ammo and a weapon rail amp.

Cyclonic mods lets you stay on your feet longer (even level 1 gives +30% shields). This translates to more damage done due to less time spent down on the ground. Power amps won't help you if you're mostly on the ground. If you have good mid weight guns that with power efficiency mods would keep you at ~150% to 170% cooldown, those are good too.

AP ammo does pure damage (warp can also be considered) which translates into more points. The other ammo types requires more finesse to use at the same level as AP/Warp

2nd fastest, Host. Hosting gives you many benefits from easier dodges to less problems with powers not hitting due to lag or your projectile weapons just disappearing.

3rd fastest, use a high dps class. Of the 4 you listed, the valkyrie has the best dps potential. The other 3 are stronger in crowd control or single target takedown. Most grenade classes are also good dps.

Finally, don't sweat it too much. The main measure i use in gold is this: Did you drop a lot? The less you drop, the more i count you as good regardless of your score. I have had suicidal players get 80k but needing me or the other 2 to pick them up 3 times a wave, more in the later waves

[Raralith]

Judging from your manifest, inexperience in the game. You play mostly white and glacier, you haven't played a variety of classes nor have you varied your weapons. My advice to you is to get out of your comfort zone and vary your play so you have a better fundamental understanding of the game. As others have said, play the game, but don't expect to learn the game by playing the same maps and characters.

[DamiosD]

if i'm playing with the geth, then i normally spec hunter mode for Weapon Accuracy,Rate of Fire, Damage, but that is a personal choice, and then strap the black widow to it, sniper rifles can kill alott fast, if you do it right. Also my advise when playing gold is kill everything you see in your sights, don't wait around, to lett other's take the kill shot. Only if you want to be first offcourse. It is a co-op game and there is no kill stealing, for the experience anyway, but if you want to be first for the points, then try and kill, as much as you can as fast as you can, spec for alott of damage and always aim for the head. low damage weapons and powers are then not the way to go. Nor is beeing friendly to others, killing wise anyway.

[Warpwny]

Raralith wrote...

Judging from your manifest, inexperience in the game. You play mostly white and glacier, you haven't played a variety of classes nor have you varied your weapons. My advice to you is to get out of your comfort zone and vary your play so you have a better fundamental understanding of the game. As others have said, play the game, but don't expect to learn the game by playing the same maps and characters.

The White and Glacier runs were my fund farming which got me the classes I like. That and I play with someone who farms Glacier regularly doing Paladin Cyro Explosion city.

Beyond that, I am most proficient with engineers and Adepts. Trying Sentinels is the first big step outside my comfort zone. Maybe once I relevel soldier I'll give them a shot.

I am just a little leery of Infultrator. I am not good with sniper rifles. Much bigger fan of Shotguns and SMGs.

[Computron2000]

Warpwny wrote...

Raralith wrote...

Judging from your manifest, inexperience in the game. You play mostly white and glacier, you haven't played a variety of classes nor have you varied your weapons. My advice to you is to get out of your comfort zone and vary your play so you have a better fundamental understanding of the game. As others have said, play the game, but don't expect to learn the game by playing the same maps and characters.

The White and Glacier runs were my fund farming which got me the classes I like. That and I play with someone who farms Glacier regularly doing Paladin Cyro Explosion city.

Beyond that, I am most proficient with engineers and Adepts. Trying Sentinels is the first big step outside my comfort zone. Maybe once I relevel soldier I'll give them a shot.

I am just a little leery of Infultrator. I am not good with sniper rifles. Much bigger fan of Shotguns and SMGs.

Engineers for dps wise, the demolishers and male quarian engineers are good and you loook to have tried them out as well.

As for infilitrators, though it seems there a movement back towards snipers, you can use ARs and shotguns without issue. It will save you 11 points to put somewhere else as you only need to spec tactical cloak to evo 4

[soulstriker09]

Warpwny wrote...
While the leader will have 100k points or more and the second place person 90K I'm stuck in the ranges of 45K if I am last or up to 60ishK if I am third.

I've used equipment, blown through consumables, watched Jumpin's guides for some of the classes and I'm just not doing so well. I don't mind ebing carried ever once in a while.. but.. I'm begining to feel like I am a leech in my games.

The difference I believe is them knowing the spawn points and where respawns would likely be... As well as them having maxed out rare weapons. 

So just keep playing and getting more weapons, you'll be carrying PuGs in no time. 

[mybudgee]

You must learn to trust your feelings...

[Warpwny]

Thanks for the advise and criticism. IPL is over so I am going to go to bed. I'll check back in the morning and look at what I need to focus on.

[Raralith]

Warpwny wrote...

Raralith wrote...

Judging from your manifest, inexperience in the game. You play mostly white and glacier, you haven't played a variety of classes nor have you varied your weapons. My advice to you is to get out of your comfort zone and vary your play so you have a better fundamental understanding of the game. As others have said, play the game, but don't expect to learn the game by playing the same maps and characters.

The White and Glacier runs were my fund farming which got me the classes I like. That and I play with someone who farms Glacier regularly doing Paladin Cyro Explosion city.

Beyond that, I am most proficient with engineers and Adepts. Trying Sentinels is the first big step outside my comfort zone. Maybe once I relevel soldier I'll give them a shot.

I am just a little leery of Infultrator. I am not good with sniper rifles. Much bigger fan of Shotguns and SMGs.

I've only got roughly 60 hours of play time ahead of you, but I've got like 5k more challenge points. Hell, I'm already done with my map mastery challenge because I play pug U/U/G - I am forced to learn spawns, I am forced to play with crappy pugs, I am forced to carry teams (occasionally), but adversity is what makes you better; farming white and glacier is more of a hinderance than it is help. What's the point of getting all these credits if you don't even know how to use them?

My guess on why you are more "proficient" with engineers and adepts is probably because you don't know how to aim well (e.g., 20 headshot metal every game), right hand block, use soft and hard cover, etc... Using only space magic will not improve your game. If anything, the infiltrator is the BEST class to learn how to kill go "pewpewpew" with. Also, learning all the classes will teach you how to better play engineers and adepts too.

[bloodstalker1973]

Warpwny wrote...

The White and Glacier runs were my fund farming which got me the classes I like. That and I play with someone who farms Glacier regularly doing Paladin Cyro Explosion city.

Beyond that, I am most proficient with engineers and Adepts. Trying Sentinels is the first big step outside my comfort zone. Maybe once I relevel soldier I'll give them a shot.

I am just a little leery of Infultrator. I am not good with sniper rifles. Much bigger fan of Shotguns and SMGs.

 


Bearing in mind I'm not a great player myself and also am not good with sniper rifles, I did notice you have the Turian Ghost unlocked. He's an infiltrator, but his bonuses are for assault rifles instead of sniper rifles in Cloak.. Stimpacks can be specced to either boost AR damage more, or to increase shields if you're feeling squishy. You've also got Overload with that class, which will caause enemies to stop moving and make them easier targets to shoot at. I run a Saber on my Ghost, but a Particle Rifle if you have it will deal extreme amounts of damage with all the bonuses you can get.

Mostly though, I echo the sentiment that you just need more playtime. 87 hours isn't a lot when you're probably playing with people who have over 3-400 hours logged a lot of the time.  You have some Rare and Ultra-Rares unlocked, but a lot of people have those weapons at 10 and have a ton of experience behind them. It's just gonna take time to be able to match that. I'm in the same boat as you, and the people I play with don;t think I'm a bad player, but they also do give me advice to help me get better.

I'd say join a group like Bronze Effect (They don;t just play Bronze), get some friends on your list, and let them show you the ropes. Quite a few people are willing to help people out, it's just easier to find them in groups like that than it is with randoms. You can get a lot of good info on the board here, but sometimes, it's easier to process that when you're actually in a game with someone as you're picking things up. Bronze effect link is here, and there are other groups as well.

social.bioware.com/group/7080/

Or, you could also check out some of the Youtube vids besides Jumpin. Different uploaders have different styles and thoughts about different things, and it's always good to get a variety. I've learned a lot just from watching Xcalizorz matches for example, especially the class specific ones. He gives some good info and tips..

www.youtube.com/watch  

Also, Stardusk has a ton of class guides for ME3 MP, and I find them very useful and informative. 

www.youtube.com/user/StarduskLP

[PeskySquirrel]

Couple things. Start playing U/U/G. You seem to be doing FBW/G/G and some glacier more than anything. Get used to playing with lots of classes and weapons and not just your geth engineer with the gps. Basically it just means getting out of your comfort zone but the good news is it seems you're still pretty new to the game. Also, hopefully you're not just camping in 1 spot. Don't be afraid to move around and use soft cover a lot more than hard cover.

[darthxaher]

I've seen jumpings's videos, I find his video's amusing, but that guy is full of contradictions. So, don't follow his instructions too seriously.

[Jannic]

With a 100% sucsess rate on gold excluting collectors I doubt you are doing much wrong. In fact I want to believe you are doing more things right than some point****s.

The highest boost I got was to implement bulletdrop in my aiming. Almost any weapon got it. Aim above the head of the enemies a tiny bit. test it how high you can go and still get the hit-response. That improved my headshotrate by 20HS in round 7-10 to 20HS in round 2-5. More Kills - more Medals More points. Just dont get into a bloodlust (unless vorcha) which would screw your A-game.

[TheCinC]

Ok, you have the GI, the Kroguard, but you don't use either one?
Tip: use them, blow the competition away!

The Kroguard against the Geth is virtually unkillable. Just charge ALL THE THING and charge ALL THE TIME! Instant 100% barrier recharge. Add N7 Piranha or Rheegar and you are all set. Charge, shoot, reload, charge, shoot, reload, charge, shoot, reload... Hey, where have all the enemies gone? Oh well, time to pack up and go home. With other enemies, just avoid the bosses as much as possible and help out your teammates when needed.

The GI with a 6-6-6-6-0 build is a lot more squishy. But stealth and run-and-gun tactics go a long way. It is one of the most versatile characters.

[wirelesstkd]

I'm like you with infiltrators: I'm bad with sniper rifles and don't like using them much. I've found that the Shadow can be fun, though, and the Quarian Male Infiltrator is pretty cool. I actually used him to level my infiltrators up after a promotion last weekend and I had a good time. I took grenade capacity gear (I think you have that at level three, which is better than nothing) and I specced all my points into grenades and tac scan, leaving cloak for last with only three pity points. I know most would laugh at me for this, but again, I wasn't playing a sniper or shotgun strategy, rather I was using a harrier and going for spawn kills with my grenades.

No doubt I'd have been better to use the engineer playing this way, but I was trying to level up my infiltrators. It worked well - I had a lot of fun and was usually on top in my silver games. I ended up taking him in to Gold at the end and did well there, too, from what I recall

Good luck and have fun!

[Warpwny]

This morning I read a thread about the default human adept and tried that this morning. I was in a gold match with a Drelldept, Asari Justicar, and a GI. We ran through three U/u/G and got Reapers all three times playing London, Hazard Reactor, and regular Reactor.

The first game was me getting back into the swing. I was 3rd but my score was on the 60K range. By the last game on London I was second place with 95K vs GI with 120K. I was very happy.

For the guy saying you can't win with space magic, I ignore your reality and substitute my own!

JK, I took your other ideas about working on aiming and soft cover using my powers to set up detonations and using my Hurricane to finish them off.

I was always so worried I'd just be wasting ammo not doing any damage before that i relied on Biotic Dets to do damage. Now I realise that even though the weapon's damage it low, with AP ammo or Warp ammo it's damage skyrockets.

I'm also going to spec into Fitness more with my characters as my Human female spec proved vital to avoid the "Oh.. they looked at me.. I'll just lay here on the floor" syndrome I suffered from during the later waves before.

My next step is to work on Vanguards. Because I irrationally thought everyone but the enemy was made of paper in Gold, I never thought a class ment to get in close and personal would be good.

Thanks for the help all!