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Proven: All Projectile Weapons ignore armor DR, all but the Krysae ignore shield gate


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 Corlist and I tested the scorpion, falcon, striker, and krysae, and were able to confirm that all of these ignored armor DR.  In addition, we were able to prove that all of these except the Krysae ignore shield gate.  This has already been shown for the GPS, Graal, Acolyte, and Kishock.

Tests are here

Modifié par tyhw, 02 décembre 2012 - 09:01 .


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Apologies, what is 'armour DR'? Armour damage reduction?

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tyhw wrote...

 Corlist and I tested the scorpion, falcon, striker, and krysae, and were able to confirm that all of these ignored armor DR.  In addition, we were able to prove that all of these except the Krysae ignore shield gate.  This has already been shown for the GPS, Graal, and Kishock.

Tests are here


acolyte?

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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

tyhw wrote...

 Corlist and I tested the scorpion, falcon, striker, and krysae, and were able to confirm that all of these ignored armor DR.  In addition, we were able to prove that all of these except the Krysae ignore shield gate.  This has already been shown for the GPS, Graal, and Kishock.

Tests are here


acolyte?


Already proven.  Will add to list of confirmed in the OP

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tyhw wrote...

 Corlist and I tested the scorpion, falcon, striker, and krysae, and were able to confirm that all of these ignored armor DR.  In addition, we were able to prove that all of these except the Krysae ignore shield gate.  This has already been shown for the GPS, Graal, Acolyte, and Kishock.

Tests are here


did you guys litterally test this cause of the stupid community argueign with you too? I been sayign this for a LONG time >_> nobody on Xbox evne listens to my advice with this, now prove the accuraccy mods dont' work on them, if it does lawl I'll be humbled abit ;)

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I have a question though, do projectile weapons (say, the Krysae and Striker,) benefit from Phasic Rounds?

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DJ Airsurfer wrote...

I have a question though, do projectile weapons (say, the Krysae and Striker,) benefit from Phasic Rounds?


Not exactly only the damage benafits, not the "shield buster" krysae on one hand would cause of it's "nerf"

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DJ Airsurfer wrote...

I have a question though, do projectile weapons (say, the Krysae and Striker,) benefit from Phasic Rounds?


There's no reason why they won't. All weapons will benefit from the damage bonus of any ammo.

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corlist wrote...

DJ Airsurfer wrote...

I have a question though, do projectile weapons (say, the Krysae and Striker,) benefit from Phasic Rounds?


There's no reason why they won't. All weapons will benefit from the damage bonus of any ammo.


yep exactly as I said ;), but Im still wanting a proof of accurassy mods doign NOTHING for these guns

too many ppl use it on Graals/GPS esspecially <_< nothing like ppl carryign around a SHredder/Smart Shoke on a Graal/GPS<_<

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 02 décembre 2012 - 09:10 .


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ValorOfArms777 wrote...

tyhw wrote...

 Corlist and I tested the scorpion, falcon, striker, and krysae, and were able to confirm that all of these ignored armor DR.  In addition, we were able to prove that all of these except the Krysae ignore shield gate.  This has already been shown for the GPS, Graal, Acolyte, and Kishock.

Tests are here


did you guys litterally test this cause of the stupid community argueign with you too? I been sayign this for a LONG time >_> nobody on Xbox evne listens to my advice with this, now prove the accuraccy mods dont' work on them, if it does lawl I'll be humbled abit ;)

I am fairly certain smart choke works on the graal. But then again it's only what I get from my own experience.

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TheAutumn wrote...

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

tyhw wrote...

 Corlist and I tested the scorpion, falcon, striker, and krysae, and were able to confirm that all of these ignored armor DR.  In addition, we were able to prove that all of these except the Krysae ignore shield gate.  This has already been shown for the GPS, Graal, Acolyte, and Kishock.

Tests are here


did you guys litterally test this cause of the stupid community argueign with you too? I been sayign this for a LONG time >_> nobody on Xbox evne listens to my advice with this, now prove the accuraccy mods dont' work on them, if it does lawl I'll be humbled abit ;)

I am fairly certain smart choke works on the graal. But then again it's only what I get from my own experience.


It shoudn't that I recall as it's flichettes are pretty much pre pattern if I look at them just right, but the notably thing is shotgusn unlike other gusn don't seem to benafit from cover acc boost, they seem to not change their reticle perido cept when firering/smart choke is what it seems only the Talon whom is apistol seems affected by these genral status unlike it's shotgun brethren

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You should proofread your posts a little...

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ValorOfArms777 wrote...

TheAutumn wrote...

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

tyhw wrote...

 Corlist and I tested the scorpion, falcon, striker, and krysae, and were able to confirm that all of these ignored armor DR.  In addition, we were able to prove that all of these except the Krysae ignore shield gate.  This has already been shown for the GPS, Graal, Acolyte, and Kishock.

Tests are here


did you guys litterally test this cause of the stupid community argueign with you too? I been sayign this for a LONG time >_> nobody on Xbox evne listens to my advice with this, now prove the accuraccy mods dont' work on them, if it does lawl I'll be humbled abit ;)

I am fairly certain smart choke works on the graal. But then again it's only what I get from my own experience.


It shoudn't that I recall as it's flichettes are pretty much pre pattern if I look at them just right, but the notably thing is shotgusn unlike other gusn don't seem to benafit from cover acc boost, they seem to not change their reticle perido cept when firering/smart choke is what it seems only the Talon whom is apistol seems affected by these genral status unlike it's shotgun brethren


I just did a short test by taking two shots from the same spot w/ and w/o smart choke and looked at the spread.


Graal without smart choke:

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Graal with smart choke:

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It definitely works.
Didn't know the gun shoots 6 spikes, by the way!

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TheAutumn wrote...

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

TheAutumn wrote...

ValorOfArms777 wrote...

tyhw wrote...

 Corlist and I tested the scorpion, falcon, striker, and krysae, and were able to confirm that all of these ignored armor DR.  In addition, we were able to prove that all of these except the Krysae ignore shield gate.  This has already been shown for the GPS, Graal, Acolyte, and Kishock.

Tests are here


did you guys litterally test this cause of the stupid community argueign with you too? I been sayign this for a LONG time >_> nobody on Xbox evne listens to my advice with this, now prove the accuraccy mods dont' work on them, if it does lawl I'll be humbled abit ;)

I am fairly certain smart choke works on the graal. But then again it's only what I get from my own experience.


It shoudn't that I recall as it's flichettes are pretty much pre pattern if I look at them just right, but the notably thing is shotgusn unlike other gusn don't seem to benafit from cover acc boost, they seem to not change their reticle perido cept when firering/smart choke is what it seems only the Talon whom is apistol seems affected by these genral status unlike it's shotgun brethren


I just did a short test by taking two shots from the same spot w/ and w/o smart choke and looked at the spread.


Graal without smart choke:

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Graal with smart choke:

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It definitely works.
Didn't know the gun shoots 6 spikes, by the way!


considering i hate the grall and dont know how to mod it, i appreciate this immensely. that blood pack challenge wont compelte itself.

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Passenger you hate the graal?

You are an embarassment to your krogan avatar!

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Greyfrogx wrote...

Passenger you hate the graal?

You are an embarassment to your krogan avatar!

I know right? no denying that one.

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SO it's just the GPS that does not benefit?, yeah that Graal was questionable cause "it's pretty different" from others and yes it shoots 6 instead of 8 "pellets", reason I never noticed is cause even w/o it it head shots like a beast even at distances, thanks though I am "humbled" by the Graal choke diffrence, where in the GPS though IDK if that wille ver benfit or not does it leave scortch marks to prove this? I know certain gusn acc modifications arn't really benafical to a point cause acc hgiher at a certain rate will become liek a crusader or phalanx on the point pin

Modifié par ValorOfArms777, 02 décembre 2012 - 09:40 .


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As I recall the accuracy mod works on the Striker, it's pretty useless to have it though, but it works.

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Look in the patch notes for the krysae. That was an intentional nerf that further sunk the damn thing down the toilet. It's why I keep saying, that thing is never gonna see any buffs. I would be suprised if the gun doesn't get another nerf.

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joker_jack wrote...

Look in the patch notes for the krysae. That was an intentional nerf that further sunk the damn thing down the toilet. It's why I keep saying, that thing is never gonna see any buffs. I would be suprised if the gun doesn't get another nerf.


Well, it wouldn't be the first time they claimed to fix something but didn't.  Figured we should test to be sure.

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joker_jack wrote...

Look in the patch notes for the krysae. That was an intentional nerf that further sunk the damn thing down the toilet. It's why I keep saying, that thing is never gonna see any buffs. I would be suprised if the gun doesn't get another nerf.


after they did that they buffed it the same day as the javelin, black widow, and widow though..
( I think it was alot in terms of numbers, ill post it)
 im not much a krysae user so whether or not that buff was "enough" isnt really for me to decide.

Krysae Sniper Rifle
- Damage increased from [429-548] to [493.4-616.8]

considering its a 3 shot clip, that sounds decent, but once again, i dont use it often if at all since this change.

Modifié par darkpassenger2342, 02 décembre 2012 - 10:27 .


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darkpassenger2342 wrote...

joker_jack wrote...

Look in the patch notes for the krysae. That was an intentional nerf that further sunk the damn thing down the toilet. It's why I keep saying, that thing is never gonna see any buffs. I would be suprised if the gun doesn't get another nerf.


after they did that they buffed it the same day as the javelin, black widow, and widow though..
( I think it was alot in terms of numbers, ill post it)
 im not much a krysae user so whether or not that buff was "enough" isnt really for me to decide.

Krysae Sniper Rifle
- Damage increased from [429-548] to [493.4-616.8]

considering its a 3 shot clip, that sounds decent, but once again, i dont use it often if at all since this change.


it's okay and does put otu allot it's mor euseful though with Ammo equip like incindiary and cryo as a similar roel to the falcon

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Drill Rounds? Damage Reduction? What does DR mean?

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So, if I put High Velocity Barrel on my Geth Plasma Shotgun, it doesn't do anything since this weapon already ignores armor damage reduction?

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ValorOfArms777 wrote...

SO it's just the GPS that does not benefit?, yeah that Graal was questionable cause "it's pretty different" from others and yes it shoots 6 instead of 8 "pellets", reason I never noticed is cause even w/o it it head shots like a beast even at distances, thanks though I am "humbled" by the Graal choke diffrence, where in the GPS though IDK if that wille ver benfit or not does it leave scortch marks to prove this? I know certain gusn acc modifications arn't really benafical to a point cause acc hgiher at a certain rate will become liek a crusader or phalanx on the point pin


I haven't used the GPS for decades but I would guess the smart choke has no effect thanks to the auto-aim feature of the weapon?