Piranha is still a beast of a shotgun. It's fine with just 6 shots. The Typhoon is good too, I used on my Demolisher yesterday with the HVB and Extended Mag and it was effective.HolyAvenger wrote...
We'll just have to see what the nerf is...but I do think there should be some sort of penalty or downside to taking a Acolyte. Right now there is none.
Honestly, the only gun that's been nerfed into the ground is the Krysae (and playing with it recently, its still gold viable...just not for me). None of the other nerfs have been that bad. The Typhoon, Piranha etc are all still viable weapons used enough imo.
I have returned. Saber and N7 Valkyrie buffs CONFIRMED IN THREAD. Also, Acolyte and Stim Pack nerfs CONFIRMED IN THREAD.
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#251
Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:00
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:01
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I personally blame Candlejack for the nerfs.
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#253
Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:02
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What's about Huntress fix? No information?
You make me sad((
You make me sad((
#254
Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:03
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Yes because I was such a god with the Acolyte and Stim Packs <_<manbearpig654 wrote...
I personally blame Candlejack for the nerfs.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:03
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I'm personally not to overly worried about the nerfs. Honestly I saw the Stim pack one coming from day one that I played the TGI. I mean really an on demand non CD dependent shield restorer/boost/damage boost, yea..
As for the acolyte I'm personally betting on either a smally weight increase, some kind of damage reduction to either health, armor, shields/barriers or all 3.
Maybe even simply a reduction in the damage multiplier. It could also be an ammo reduction in either clip size or spare ammo.
There's also the possibility they'll remove the lil stun effect it has.
But I'm just speculating, I love the gun to death but even I always thought it was a lil too powerful, not OP per say but after the removal of the charge mechanic it definitely was a the side arm of choice and even after the 'nerf' (for me at least) still will be.
Either way it was stated it was a 'small' nerf, I don't think it's going to impact it that much (hopfully)
As for the acolyte I'm personally betting on either a smally weight increase, some kind of damage reduction to either health, armor, shields/barriers or all 3.
Maybe even simply a reduction in the damage multiplier. It could also be an ammo reduction in either clip size or spare ammo.
There's also the possibility they'll remove the lil stun effect it has.
But I'm just speculating, I love the gun to death but even I always thought it was a lil too powerful, not OP per say but after the removal of the charge mechanic it definitely was a the side arm of choice and even after the 'nerf' (for me at least) still will be.
Either way it was stated it was a 'small' nerf, I don't think it's going to impact it that much (hopfully)
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:04
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It's most likely going to be fixed with todays changes. Happened last time with the Vorcha and Submission net.Edelas_rus wrote...
What's about Huntress fix? No information?
You make me sad((
#257
Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:04
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Eric Fagnan wrote...
Yes we will have a Saber buff tomorrow.
Can you buff the sound?
I love dat sound.
Make it bark louder.
#258
Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:04
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Ziegrif wrote...
It's kinda funny.
I'm absolutely HORRIBLE with the acolyte and rarely if ever use it.
I never actually use the Turian Ghost or Havoc.
So them nerfs don't even bother me really.
Easy to stay neutral about the issue when you don't give a rats arse about it anyway.
Ditto. I remember using it once and sucking so hard with it. Shooting it felt very ackward imo.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:05
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Well, I took the HA into plat for the first time after watching your vid, with an Acolyte. The Acolyte's shield stripping, stagger, good damage all make the HA much more viable on plat. Especially the shield stripping, when combined with singularity, makes phantoms and banshees a joke.
Caster classes should get a weapon that compensates for their weakness against shields, however there should be a downside to using that weapon, be it higher weapon, lack of damage against health and armour, lack of stagger, requiring a charge-up time etc. Right now there is no disadvantage for the Acolyte.
The point wasn't that you were killing with your Acolyte. The point is that armour is weak to BEs or a flamer or similar power. If you combine the shield-stripping of an Acolyte (with its lack of major wekanesses) with a class that is strong against armour, you end up with an issue. Currently I simply can't look past the Acolyte for a lot of these classes as going to any other gun feels like I'm gimping myself. That's the issue BioWare need to address.
I'm not sure how maying a new style of play viable is a bad thing. It's not like biotics are suddenly dominating top end infiltrators and the HA is suddenly better than the GI or anything like that.
Even with the acolyte, biotics are still pretty weak vs armor. I often find myself often going for another weapon because of this.
It's specialized. If you can work with that...its good. If not, it's not very useful. I don't think that makes it overpowered.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:08
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Nooo acolyte and ghost nerf 
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:08
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TheCandlejack wrote...
It's most likely going to be fixed with todays changes. Happened last time with the Vorcha and Submission net.
Ok, i hope you are right. Huntress would be something real deadly with this fix
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:08
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CNevarezN wrote...
Ziegrif wrote...
It's kinda funny.
I'm absolutely HORRIBLE with the acolyte and rarely if ever use it.
I never actually use the Turian Ghost or Havoc.
So them nerfs don't even bother me really.
Easy to stay neutral about the issue when you don't give a rats arse about it anyway.
Ditto. I remember using it once and sucking so hard with it. Shooting it felt very ackward imo.
It takes some pratice, but once you get good it becomes one of the best sidearms in the game. Maybe that's why they are nerfing it. Almost no penalty for carrying it (+20 in cooldown), useful on any build, staggers every human sized enemy except dragoons, and it's completely destroys shields and barriers.
Oh well, I've been favoring the scoprion more lately anyway.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:09
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The only reason I had the Acolyte as my sidearm was so I could deal with Phantoms more effectively and strip the shields from Primes and Praetorians if we got Collectors on Platinum.january42 wrote...
Well, I took the HA into plat for the first time after watching your vid, with an Acolyte. The Acolyte's shield stripping, stagger, good damage all make the HA much more viable on plat. Especially the shield stripping, when combined with singularity, makes phantoms and banshees a joke.
Caster classes should get a weapon that compensates for their weakness against shields, however there should be a downside to using that weapon, be it higher weapon, lack of damage against health and armour, lack of stagger, requiring a charge-up time etc. Right now there is no disadvantage for the Acolyte.
The point wasn't that you were killing with your Acolyte. The point is that armour is weak to BEs or a flamer or similar power. If you combine the shield-stripping of an Acolyte (with its lack of major wekanesses) with a class that is strong against armour, you end up with an issue. Currently I simply can't look past the Acolyte for a lot of these classes as going to any other gun feels like I'm gimping myself. That's the issue BioWare need to address.
I'm not sure how maying a new style of play viable is a bad thing. It's not like biotics are suddenly dominating top end infiltrators and the HA is suddenly better than the GI or anything like that.
Even with the acolyte, biotics are still pretty weak vs armor. I often find myself often going for another weapon because of this.
It's specialized. If you can work with that...its good. If not, it's not very useful. I don't think that makes it overpowered.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:12
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[quote]
Ditto. I remember using it once and sucking so hard with it. Shooting it felt very ackward imo. [/quote]
It takes some pratice, but once you get good it becomes one of the best sidearms in the game. Maybe that's why they are nerfing it. Almost no penalty for carrying it (+20 in cooldown), useful on any build, staggers every human sized enemy except dragoons, and it's completely destroys shields and barriers.
Oh well, I've been favoring the scoprion more lately anyway.
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I don't find it that useful as a sidearm. In the time it takes to fire it + switch weapons, any decent gun can strip the shields from anything other than a top end boss (Banshee, Atlas, Pratorian, Prime). It's maybe worth carrying as a sidearm for those 4, but that is it.
Probably only even worth considering on platinum actually.
Ditto. I remember using it once and sucking so hard with it. Shooting it felt very ackward imo. [/quote]
It takes some pratice, but once you get good it becomes one of the best sidearms in the game. Maybe that's why they are nerfing it. Almost no penalty for carrying it (+20 in cooldown), useful on any build, staggers every human sized enemy except dragoons, and it's completely destroys shields and barriers.
Oh well, I've been favoring the scoprion more lately anyway.
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I don't find it that useful as a sidearm. In the time it takes to fire it + switch weapons, any decent gun can strip the shields from anything other than a top end boss (Banshee, Atlas, Pratorian, Prime). It's maybe worth carrying as a sidearm for those 4, but that is it.
Probably only even worth considering on platinum actually.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:14
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Eric Fagnan wrote...
We also have a small Valkyrie buff this week, but just to warn everyone we also have a small nerf to the Acolyte and one to the Stimulant Pack power since after some testing and feedback we've concluded that they are too powerful.
Brilliant move. *typed with heavy sarcasm*
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:14
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january42 wrote...
Even with the acolyte, biotics are still pretty weak vs armor.
No.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:15
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[quote]january42 wrote...
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Ditto. I remember using it once and sucking so hard with it. Shooting it felt very ackward imo. [/quote]
It takes some pratice, but once you get good it becomes one of the best sidearms in the game. Maybe that's why they are nerfing it. Almost no penalty for carrying it (+20 in cooldown), useful on any build, staggers every human sized enemy except dragoons, and it's completely destroys shields and barriers.
Oh well, I've been favoring the scoprion more lately anyway.
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I don't find it that useful as a sidearm. In the time it takes to fire it + switch weapons, any decent gun can strip the shields from anything other than a top end boss (Banshee, Atlas, Pratorian, Prime). It's maybe worth carrying as a sidearm for those 4, but that is it.
Probably only even worth considering on platinum actually.
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I've tried a Geth Soldier with just an Acolyte on Platinum and it worked really well (I tried out caineghis' build)
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Ditto. I remember using it once and sucking so hard with it. Shooting it felt very ackward imo. [/quote]
It takes some pratice, but once you get good it becomes one of the best sidearms in the game. Maybe that's why they are nerfing it. Almost no penalty for carrying it (+20 in cooldown), useful on any build, staggers every human sized enemy except dragoons, and it's completely destroys shields and barriers.
Oh well, I've been favoring the scoprion more lately anyway.
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I don't find it that useful as a sidearm. In the time it takes to fire it + switch weapons, any decent gun can strip the shields from anything other than a top end boss (Banshee, Atlas, Pratorian, Prime). It's maybe worth carrying as a sidearm for those 4, but that is it.
Probably only even worth considering on platinum actually.
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I've tried a Geth Soldier with just an Acolyte on Platinum and it worked really well (I tried out caineghis' build)
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:20
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manbearpig654 wrote...
CNevarezN wrote...
Ziegrif wrote...
It's kinda funny.
I'm absolutely HORRIBLE with the acolyte and rarely if ever use it.
I never actually use the Turian Ghost or Havoc.
So them nerfs don't even bother me really.
Easy to stay neutral about the issue when you don't give a rats arse about it anyway.
Ditto. I remember using it once and sucking so hard with it. Shooting it felt very ackward imo.
It takes some pratice, but once you get good it becomes one of the best sidearms in the game. Maybe that's why they are nerfing it. Almost no penalty for carrying it (+20 in cooldown), useful on any build, staggers every human sized enemy except dragoons, and it's completely destroys shields and barriers.
Oh well, I've been favoring the scoprion more lately anyway.
Once strapped a heavy barrel on it as an experiment kept my KroSoldiers CD at 200% easily. I really don't like how the gun fires. Even after they took the charge out. There's also the annoying delay to reloading it. I'm kinda OCD about keeping my guns reloaded so I reload almost after every shot.
Not being able to reload immediately with the Acolyte just pisses me off and makes me never pick the gun. Petty, but that's my number 1 reason why I didn't bother learning the slow firing thing with it. I bring a shotgun with adepts anyway.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:24
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The delayed reload is what annoys me the most.Ziegrif wrote...
manbearpig654 wrote...
CNevarezN wrote...
Ziegrif wrote...
It's kinda funny.
I'm absolutely HORRIBLE with the acolyte and rarely if ever use it.
I never actually use the Turian Ghost or Havoc.
So them nerfs don't even bother me really.
Easy to stay neutral about the issue when you don't give a rats arse about it anyway.
Ditto. I remember using it once and sucking so hard with it. Shooting it felt very ackward imo.
It takes some pratice, but once you get good it becomes one of the best sidearms in the game. Maybe that's why they are nerfing it. Almost no penalty for carrying it (+20 in cooldown), useful on any build, staggers every human sized enemy except dragoons, and it's completely destroys shields and barriers.
Oh well, I've been favoring the scoprion more lately anyway.
Once strapped a heavy barrel on it as an experiment kept my KroSoldiers CD at 200% easily. I really don't like how the gun fires. Even after they took the charge out. There's also the annoying delay to reloading it. I'm kinda OCD about keeping my guns reloaded so I reload almost after every shot.
Not being able to reload immediately with the Acolyte just pisses me off and makes me never pick the gun. Petty, but that's my number 1 reason why I didn't bother learning the slow firing thing with it. I bring a shotgun with adepts anyway.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:29
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The only way I've been able to one-shot a barrier-less phantom on gold is with GI spec'd full weapon damage on top of three stacks of prox-mines.
Kishock headshot will get them (full barriers and all) everytime.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:30
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Valkyrie buff is much appreciated.
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:30
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Yeah if they stand still for that long.Tankcommander wrote...
InArts wrote...
The only way I've been able to one-shot a barrier-less phantom on gold is with GI spec'd full weapon damage on top of three stacks of prox-mines.
Kishock headshot will get them (full barriers and all) everytime.
#273
Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:31
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Are guys nerfing the acolyte's damage or giving its charge back ? Pls be giving its charge back 
#274
Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:31
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How does this thread get a response when none of the huntress TC threads have?
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Posté 04 décembre 2012 - 03:32
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Because Saber, that's why. They're fixing the Cloak anyways, I'm sure of it. They got a quick fix on the Vorcha Engis Submission Net, so most likely the Cloak will be fixed too.UKStory135 wrote...
How does this thread get a response when none of the huntress TC threads have?
